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Old 02-13-2007   #1 (permalink)
Jeffrey Bard


 
 

User Profiles Local vs Domain

Hi all,

I'm having problems with a few of my user profiles. The static ones in
the office work great, but I have a couple of employees that take
their laptops with them, and work on them while not connected to our
SBS domain.

My issue is that after their machine is initialized for use on the
network, the new profile created is associated with the SBS domain,
and has no association with the local machine. I can't see the profile
under "Local Users" in the Computer Management console (though I can
see them under Manage User Accounts) , and when they attempt to log
onto the local machine using
computername\profilename, they get a bad password error. They can log
onto the local machine only if they have another local user account
set up (which they do, but... meh).

There has to be a way for them to do both, right? To log onto the
domain and their own computer with the same profile? I'm not having
this problem with any of my XP machines, so I'm not quite sure what's
up.

Any help would be appreciated!


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-13-2007   #2 (permalink)
Frankster


 
 

Re: User Profiles Local vs Domain

Can't they logon when away using the cached profile on their machines from
the Domain by simply logging on to the Domain when away? I know they'll get
the "can't logon to Domain" error (or similar) but it should let them log on
and use their cached profile, right? Truly, I've not tested this on Vista.
But that's how XP works. Maybe they don't know how to logon to the Domain
in Vista, because it is a little different.

DOMAINNAME\userid [enter]

In XP you didn't have to type it. It was left over in the pulldown window.

-Frank

"Jeffrey Bard" <JeffreyBard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171419112.374148.9300@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I'm having problems with a few of my user profiles. The static ones in
> the office work great, but I have a couple of employees that take
> their laptops with them, and work on them while not connected to our
> SBS domain.
>
> My issue is that after their machine is initialized for use on the
> network, the new profile created is associated with the SBS domain,
> and has no association with the local machine. I can't see the profile
> under "Local Users" in the Computer Management console (though I can
> see them under Manage User Accounts) , and when they attempt to log
> onto the local machine using
> computername\profilename, they get a bad password error. They can log
> onto the local machine only if they have another local user account
> set up (which they do, but... meh).
>
> There has to be a way for them to do both, right? To log onto the
> domain and their own computer with the same profile? I'm not having
> this problem with any of my XP machines, so I'm not quite sure what's
> up.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>


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Old 02-14-2007   #3 (permalink)
bp


 
 

Re: User Profiles Local vs Domain

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:29:30 -0700, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
wrote:



>Can't they logon when away using the cached profile on their machines from
>the Domain by simply logging on to the Domain when away? I know they'll get
>the "can't logon to Domain" error (or similar) but it should let them log on
>and use their cached profile, right? Truly, I've not tested this on Vista.
>But that's how XP works. Maybe they don't know how to logon to the Domain
>in Vista, because it is a little different.
>
>DOMAINNAME\userid [enter]
>
>In XP you didn't have to type it. It was left over in the pulldown window.
>
>-Frank

Speaking of loggin on
Can we get rid of this fast switching sigh on screen? I want to use
the old style. In XP you could turn it off but I can't find anything
so far in Vista to do the same.
>"Jeffrey Bard" <JeffreyBard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1171419112.374148.9300@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm having problems with a few of my user profiles. The static ones in
>> the office work great, but I have a couple of employees that take
>> their laptops with them, and work on them while not connected to our
>> SBS domain.
>>
>> My issue is that after their machine is initialized for use on the
>> network, the new profile created is associated with the SBS domain,
>> and has no association with the local machine. I can't see the profile
>> under "Local Users" in the Computer Management console (though I can
>> see them under Manage User Accounts) , and when they attempt to log
>> onto the local machine using
>> computername\profilename, they get a bad password error. They can log
>> onto the local machine only if they have another local user account
>> set up (which they do, but... meh).
>>
>> There has to be a way for them to do both, right? To log onto the
>> domain and their own computer with the same profile? I'm not having
>> this problem with any of my XP machines, so I'm not quite sure what's
>> up.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>

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Old 02-14-2007   #4 (permalink)
Frankster


 
 

Re: User Profiles Local vs Domain

> Speaking of loggin on
> Can we get rid of this fast switching sigh on screen?


I haven't been able to find a way yet either. I just looked in the policy
editor and couldn't find it there either. O'course, I may have just
overlooked it. I dunno... I don't like it either.

Anyone?

-Frank

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-14-2007   #5 (permalink)
Dave R.


 
 

Re: User Profiles Local vs Domain


"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
news:qfydnZ5wiq7fs07YnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Speaking of loggin on
>> Can we get rid of this fast switching sigh on screen?

>
> I haven't been able to find a way yet either. I just looked in the
> policy editor and couldn't find it there either. O'course, I may have
> just overlooked it. I dunno... I don't like it either.
>
> Anyone?


I found this in another thread & saved it for when my Vista test &
evaluation machine arrives. Hope it helps, but I've not tested it so
report back with results if you don't mind.

> Disable fast user switching and welcome screen (desired to more
> completely "brand" the system) - The following should force the
> "classic" logon:
> Click Start
> - Click Control Panel
> - Click System and Maintenance
> - Click Administrative Tools
> - Double-Click Local Security Policy
> - In the left pane, click the triangle next to Local Policy
> - In the left pane, click Security Options
> - In the right pane, double-click "Interactive logon: Do not display
> last user name"
> - Click Enabled and then OK
> - In the right pane, double-click "Interactive logon: Do not require
> CTRL+ALT+DEL"
> - Click Disabled and then OK



Best Regards,

Dave


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Old 02-14-2007   #6 (permalink)
bp


 
 

Re: User Profiles Local vs Domain

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:44:12 -0500, "Dave R." <dwragle at drbsystems
dot com> wrote:

>
>"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
>news:qfydnZ5wiq7fs07YnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Speaking of loggin on
>>> Can we get rid of this fast switching sigh on screen?

>>
>> I haven't been able to find a way yet either. I just looked in the
>> policy editor and couldn't find it there either. O'course, I may have
>> just overlooked it. I dunno... I don't like it either.
>>
>> Anyone?

>
>I found this in another thread & saved it for when my Vista test &
>evaluation machine arrives. Hope it helps, but I've not tested it so
>report back with results if you don't mind.
>
>> Disable fast user switching and welcome screen (desired to more
>> completely "brand" the system) - The following should force the
>> "classic" logon:
>> Click Start
>> - Click Control Panel
>> - Click System and Maintenance
>> - Click Administrative Tools
>> - Double-Click Local Security Policy
>> - In the left pane, click the triangle next to Local Policy
>> - In the left pane, click Security Options
>> - In the right pane, double-click "Interactive logon: Do not display
>> last user name"
>> - Click Enabled and then OK
>> - In the right pane, double-click "Interactive logon: Do not require
>> CTRL+ALT+DEL"
>> - Click Disabled and then OK

>

Hmmm All that does is remove the dorky picture I had to pick for my
profile. The frame is there it's just empty.

Oh well


>
>Best Regards,
>
>Dave
>

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Old 02-15-2007   #7 (permalink)
Dave R.


 
 

Re: User Profiles Local vs Domain


"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:h307t2pg8er84ovhv1a42tv4ukfocv168j@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:44:12 -0500, "Dave R." <dwragle at drbsystems
> dot com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
>>news:qfydnZ5wiq7fs07YnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> Speaking of loggin on
>>>> Can we get rid of this fast switching sigh on screen?
>>>
>>> I haven't been able to find a way yet either. I just looked in the
>>> policy editor and couldn't find it there either. O'course, I may
>>> have
>>> just overlooked it. I dunno... I don't like it either.
>>>
>>> Anyone?

>>
>>I found this in another thread & saved it for when my Vista test &
>>evaluation machine arrives. Hope it helps, but I've not tested it so
>>report back with results if you don't mind.
>>
>>> Disable fast user switching and welcome screen (desired to more
>>> completely "brand" the system) - The following should force the
>>> "classic" logon:
>>> Click Start
>>> - Click Control Panel
>>> - Click System and Maintenance
>>> - Click Administrative Tools
>>> - Double-Click Local Security Policy
>>> - In the left pane, click the triangle next to Local Policy
>>> - In the left pane, click Security Options
>>> - In the right pane, double-click "Interactive logon: Do not display
>>> last user name"
>>> - Click Enabled and then OK
>>> - In the right pane, double-click "Interactive logon: Do not require
>>> CTRL+ALT+DEL"
>>> - Click Disabled and then OK

>>

> Hmmm All that does is remove the dorky picture I had to pick for my
> profile. The frame is there it's just empty.
>
> Oh well
>
>

Just found another possibility:

You can disable fast user switching by going to gpedit.msc ...

Administrative Templates -> System -> Logon -> Hide entry points for
Fast
User Switching = Enabled

If you have a Home version of Vista, you'll need to make the change in
the registry. Run regedit and navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
Create a DWORD (32-bit) Value named HideFastUserSwitching
Set the Value data for HideFastUserSwitching to 1

Hope this helps.

Dave


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