Vista - Outllook Express in Vista?

I believe that is what she did say!

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"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> That is not what you said; you made it sound as if Outlook can be used as
> a
> newsreader, which it certainly cannot, you specifically stated "or as MS
> Office's Outlook's newsreader program", of which it doesn't exist in
> Outlook. No
> matter how you switch it, you open the Windows Mail executable, not
> Outlook. If you open it through Outlook, it opens Winmail.exe no matter.
>
> "Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u2ycBaFUHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
>> as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:
>>
>> msimn.exe /outnews
>>
>> making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).
>>
>> But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act
>> like
>> a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:
>>
>> msimn.exe /newsonly
>>
>> Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:
>>
>> WinMail.exe
>>
>> so, one could create a short cut such as the following:
>>
>> "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"
>>
>> and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
>> shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Saucy Lemon
>> (For email, remove the caps in address)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>> news:6ZWdndTd2twGr07YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>
>>> "Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uX4NTjEUHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
>>>> you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
>>>> Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.
>>>
>>> Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
>>> it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
>>> set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open
>>> Windows
>>> mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
>>> one can just simply open WM?
>>
>

My apologies to you if my wording had you thinking otherwise, I didn't
intend it that way.

Office Outlook has long used Outlook Express as its newsreader program. It
used to start OE with the /outnews switch.

A lot of people when they first got Office Outlook would look to see if they
could use it for newsgroups and found that what really started was Outlook
Express. It was a disappointment, albeit a small one, but it wasn't terribly
important. It would be nice if one could do newsgroups right in Office
Outlook.

Anyway, you can start WinMail.exe with the /outlook switch or with the
/newsonly switch on your own - through a shortcut, say - making it either
Office Outlook's newsreader (/outnews) or a stand-alone (/newsonly).

You can also start WinMail.exe with the /outnews switch *directly from
Office Outlook 2007*. Root around the Customize menu options or Toolbars and
under "Web", sure enough, there's a listing for "News".

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)



"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:cIednfL-S5s2xU7YnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@insightbb.com...
> That is not what you said; you made it sound as if Outlook can be used as
> a
> newsreader, which it certainly cannot, you specifically stated "or as MS
> Office's Outlook's newsreader program", of which it doesn't exist in
> Outlook. No
> matter how you switch it, you open the Windows Mail executable, not
> Outlook. If you open it through Outlook, it opens Winmail.exe no matter.
>
> "Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u2ycBaFUHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
>> as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:
>>
>> msimn.exe /outnews
>>
>> making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).
>>
>> But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act
>> like
>> a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:
>>
>> msimn.exe /newsonly
>>
>> Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:
>>
>> WinMail.exe
>>
>> so, one could create a short cut such as the following:
>>
>> "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"
>>
>> and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
>> shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Saucy Lemon
>> (For email, remove the caps in address)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>> news:6ZWdndTd2twGr07YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>
>>> "Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uX4NTjEUHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
>>>> you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
>>>> Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.
>>>
>>> Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor does
>>> it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
>>> set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open
>>> Windows
>>> mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
>>> one can just simply open WM?
>>
>

Saucy, I know all of what you are saying (in Outlook, right click on
toolbar, choose "customize", in the "categories" column of the applet
pop-up, choose "Go", then select "News" from the "command" column and add it
to the toolbar, or to whatever drop list you please) to access the
newsreader, via Winmail.

In either case, creating the shortcuts with or without switches is very
redundant, when one can simply add the Winmail proggy to their taskbar
(Quicklaunch) so it is easily accessible without having to go to the
desktop. But in no sense is Outlook a newsreader, it is solely an Office
email client/calendar/organizer/non-newsreader.


"Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O1CrqxGUHHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> My apologies to you if my wording had you thinking otherwise, I didn't
> intend it that way.
>
> Office Outlook has long used Outlook Express as its newsreader program. It
> used to start OE with the /outnews switch.
>
> A lot of people when they first got Office Outlook would look to see if
> they could use it for newsgroups and found that what really started was
> Outlook Express. It was a disappointment, albeit a small one, but it
> wasn't terribly important. It would be nice if one could do newsgroups
> right in Office Outlook.
>
> Anyway, you can start WinMail.exe with the /outlook switch or with the
> /newsonly switch on your own - through a shortcut, say - making it either
> Office Outlook's newsreader (/outnews) or a stand-alone (/newsonly).
>
> You can also start WinMail.exe with the /outnews switch *directly from
> Office Outlook 2007*. Root around the Customize menu options or Toolbars
> and under "Web", sure enough, there's a listing for "News".
>
> --
>
> Saucy Lemon
> (For email, remove the caps in address)
>
>
>
> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:cIednfL-S5s2xU7YnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>> That is not what you said; you made it sound as if Outlook can be used as
>> a
>> newsreader, which it certainly cannot, you specifically stated "or as MS
>> Office's Outlook's newsreader program", of which it doesn't exist in
>> Outlook. No
>> matter how you switch it, you open the Windows Mail executable, not
>> Outlook. If you open it through Outlook, it opens Winmail.exe no matter.
>>
>> "Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u2ycBaFUHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Right .. except that MS Office Outlook has normally used Outlook Express
>>> as its newsreader. It would launch OE with the /outnews swtich:
>>>
>>> msimn.exe /outnews
>>>
>>> making it the MS Office Outlook newsread (so to speak).
>>>
>>> But you can do similarly in such a way as to make Outlook Express act
>>> like
>>> a stand-alone newsreader (no email inbox etc.), thusly:
>>>
>>> msimn.exe /newsonly
>>>
>>> Now, with Windows Mail, the same swtiches work. Only the executable is:
>>>
>>> WinMail.exe
>>>
>>> so, one could create a short cut such as the following:
>>>
>>> "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe /newsonly"
>>>
>>> and have Windows Mail run as a news reader only. You could name the
>>> shortcut "Windows News" or somesuch.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Saucy Lemon
>>> (For email, remove the caps in address)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6ZWdndTd2twGr07YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uX4NTjEUHHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Mail does support the /newsonly and the /outnews swtiches, so
>>>>> you can operate it as a stand-alone newsreader-only program [or as MS
>>>>> Office's Outlook's newsreader program] instead of as an email program.
>>>>
>>>> Outlook (in any release year) doesn't function as a newsreader, nor
>>>> does
>>>> it have a newsreading program, never has. You can only have Outlook, if
>>>> set up as such, open "News (a newsreader)" and then it will open
>>>> Windows
>>>> mail (or OE in previous OSes) to use a newsreader. But why do that when
>>>> one can just simply open WM?
>>>
>>
>

Unless you go to http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/nntp/ and obtain the
Mapilab NNTP Add-in which does in fact integrate NNTP in Outlook. I am
reading and responding to this thread in Outlook at present. Mapilab
has a 30 day free trial if you would like to try it out.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom [mailto:noway@nothere.com]
Posted At: February-14-07 12:33 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Conversation: Outllook Express in Vista?
Subject: Re: Outllook Express in Vista?

<snip>

But in no sense is Outlook a newsreader, it is solely an Office
email client/calendar/organizer/non-newsreader.

That's one cool plug-in. Can one turn off scripting and view the posts in
"plain text" ??

--

Saucy Lemon
(For email, remove the caps in address)



"Kevin Young" <ky_nntp@msn.com> wrote in message
news:CAFED3FF0F764E809F68DED1B16BED0D@L9982100...
> Unless you go to http://www.mapilab.com/outlook/nntp/ and obtain the
> Mapilab NNTP Add-in which does in fact integrate NNTP in Outlook. I am
> reading and responding to this thread in Outlook at present. Mapilab
> has a 30 day free trial if you would like to try it out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom [mailto:noway@nothere.com]
> Posted At: February-14-07 12:33 PM
> Posted To: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> Conversation: Outllook Express in Vista?
> Subject: Re: Outllook Express in Vista?
>
> <snip>
>
> But in no sense is Outlook a newsreader, it is solely an Office
> email client/calendar/organizer/non-newsreader.
>
>
>

"Saucy Lemon" <guidREMOVEsaucy@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObWD$qHUHHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> That's one cool plug-in. Can one turn off scripting and view the posts in
> "plain text" ??


I tried it a while ago. You lose many functions, like flagging and some
other things that I can't remember. It's not useful if you post on usenet a
lot.

ss.

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I believe that is what she did say!
>

She? Heh, I thought it was a bit of a camp nick.

ss.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:51:05 +0100, "Jake" <jake@planet.nl> spake
thusly:

>When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups. I
>understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista

The prefect opportunity to try something better!!!!
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

"Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:51:05 +0100, "Jake" <jake@planet.nl> spake
> thusly:
>
>>When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups.
>>I
>>understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista
>
> The prefect opportunity to try something better!!!!
> --
> Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Windows Mail comes with Vista and is the OE replacement. You can read
newsgroups in it. If you require access to http email accounts (i.e.
Hotmail), Windows Mail no longer supports that but you can download Windows
Live Mail desktop (presently in beta) that provides access to POP, IMAP,
HTTP mail as well as RSS Feeds and NNTP Newsgroups.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:09:48 -0700, "Kevin Young" <KY_NNTP@msn.com>
spake thusly:

>"Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
>news:4pp7t2hmc8ijbhra6m3lnh5pnq47cqgvid@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:51:05 +0100, "Jake" <jake@planet.nl> spake
>> thusly:
>>
>>>When I install Vista, how will I get access to Outlook express newsgroups.
>>>I
>>>understand that Outlook express is not featured in Vista
>>
>> The prefect opportunity to try something better!!!!
>> --
>> Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com
>>
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>
>Windows Mail comes with Vista and is the OE replacement. You can read
>newsgroups in it. If you require access to http email accounts (i.e.
>Hotmail), Windows Mail no longer supports that but you can download Windows
>Live Mail desktop (presently in beta) that provides access to POP, IMAP,
>HTTP mail as well as RSS Feeds and NNTP Newsgroups.

http://getthunderbird.com
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Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?