Vista - New Hard Drive - Same Vista

I am slightly confused about adding a new hard drive with the new Vista
License.

1. I want to buy a fast Raptor type drive.
2. I want to copy my currently installed Vista Premium system to this
drive, to run in the current system.
3. The License agreement, I think, allows you to replace a HD or
Motherboard, but not both.
4. Can I use a tool like Partition Commander 10 to copy my existing system
to the new HD?
5. Do I have to reinstall?? It was an upgrade from XP Pro. I don't want to
reinstall XP then upgrade again. Help.

Any other suggestions???

JD,

I recmmmend you copy your current OS image to your new hard drive, and then
make the Indi-6 call to reactivate your VISTA.
If the attendant asks why your reactivating, tell him/her you had to replace
your hard drive. If he/she wants to know why, tell him/her it was
defective, or tell him/her the old one was outdated and too slow.

It's really no big deal since you are on the up-and-up and not intending to
go outside of the license agreement.


"JohnnyD" <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:78139564-1EBA-4F0C-9CC2-30A1BD69B562@microsoft.com...
>I am slightly confused about adding a new hard drive with the new Vista
> License.
>
> 1. I want to buy a fast Raptor type drive.
> 2. I want to copy my currently installed Vista Premium system to this
> drive, to run in the current system.
> 3. The License agreement, I think, allows you to replace a HD or
> Motherboard, but not both.
> 4. Can I use a tool like Partition Commander 10 to copy my existing
> system
> to the new HD?
> 5. Do I have to reinstall?? It was an upgrade from XP Pro. I don't want
> to
> reinstall XP then upgrade again. Help.
>
> Any other suggestions???

Hi,

No reason you can't do that, though you may need to reactivate (but that's
certainly allowed). Make sure whatever tool you use to copy the existing
installation is Vista-compatible, as there will be problems with the file
system if it is not.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"JohnnyD" <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:78139564-1EBA-4F0C-9CC2-30A1BD69B562@microsoft.com...
>I am slightly confused about adding a new hard drive with the new Vista
> License.
>
> 1. I want to buy a fast Raptor type drive.
> 2. I want to copy my currently installed Vista Premium system to this
> drive, to run in the current system.
> 3. The License agreement, I think, allows you to replace a HD or
> Motherboard, but not both.
> 4. Can I use a tool like Partition Commander 10 to copy my existing
> system
> to the new HD?
> 5. Do I have to reinstall?? It was an upgrade from XP Pro. I don't want
> to
> reinstall XP then upgrade again. Help.
>
> Any other suggestions???

Man don't that really SUCK to have to get permission to repair your own
computer.
You would think in this day and age there has to be a better way.

--
Carl G

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:#i9YVGJUHHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> No reason you can't do that, though you may need to reactivate (but that's
> certainly allowed). Make sure whatever tool you use to copy the existing
> installation is Vista-compatible, as there will be problems with the file
> system if it is not.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "JohnnyD" <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:78139564-1EBA-4F0C-9CC2-30A1BD69B562@microsoft.com...
>>I am slightly confused about adding a new hard drive with the new Vista
>> License.
>>
>> 1. I want to buy a fast Raptor type drive.
>> 2. I want to copy my currently installed Vista Premium system to this
>> drive, to run in the current system.
>> 3. The License agreement, I think, allows you to replace a HD or
>> Motherboard, but not both.
>> 4. Can I use a tool like Partition Commander 10 to copy my existing
>> system
>> to the new HD?
>> 5. Do I have to reinstall?? It was an upgrade from XP Pro. I don't want
>> to
>> reinstall XP then upgrade again. Help.
>>
>> Any other suggestions???
>

Yeah... They call it an Aladdin HASP4 hardlock...


"Carl G" <cgerving@msnDOTcom> wrote in message
news:edW5iUJUHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Man don't that really SUCK to have to get permission to repair your own
> computer.
> You would think in this day and age there has to be a better way.
>
> --
> Carl G
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:#i9YVGJUHHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> No reason you can't do that, though you may need to reactivate (but
>> that's certainly allowed). Make sure whatever tool you use to copy the
>> existing installation is Vista-compatible, as there will be problems with
>> the file system if it is not.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "JohnnyD" <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:78139564-1EBA-4F0C-9CC2-30A1BD69B562@microsoft.com...
>>>I am slightly confused about adding a new hard drive with the new Vista
>>> License.
>>>
>>> 1. I want to buy a fast Raptor type drive.
>>> 2. I want to copy my currently installed Vista Premium system to this
>>> drive, to run in the current system.
>>> 3. The License agreement, I think, allows you to replace a HD or
>>> Motherboard, but not both.
>>> 4. Can I use a tool like Partition Commander 10 to copy my existing
>>> system
>>> to the new HD?
>>> 5. Do I have to reinstall?? It was an upgrade from XP Pro. I don't
>>> want to
>>> reinstall XP then upgrade again. Help.
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions???
>>

"JohnnyD" <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>I am slightly confused about adding a new hard drive with the new Vista
> License.
>
> 1. I want to buy a fast Raptor type drive.
> 2. I want to copy my currently installed Vista Premium system to this
> drive, to run in the current system.
> 3. The License agreement, I think, allows you to replace a HD or
> Motherboard, but not both.

Where did you get this? Have you read it? You can reinstall and change
parts in the same computer as many times as you want. The activation may
need to be done by phone. For OEM Vista there is some uncertainty about
upgrading a motherboard, but for retail it's no issue and for OEM it's not
an issue for changing drives.

> 4. Can I use a tool like Partition Commander 10 to copy my existing
> system
> to the new HD?
> 5. Do I have to reinstall?? It was an upgrade from XP Pro. I don't want
> to
> reinstall XP then upgrade again. Help.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Thanks - That was very informative. Does the raptor x drive make a
difference in Vista performance. I will find out soon enough. Thanks.

"Rock" wrote:

> "JohnnyD" <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>
> >I am slightly confused about adding a new hard drive with the new Vista
> > License.
> >
> > 1. I want to buy a fast Raptor type drive.
> > 2. I want to copy my currently installed Vista Premium system to this
> > drive, to run in the current system.
> > 3. The License agreement, I think, allows you to replace a HD or
> > Motherboard, but not both.
>
> Where did you get this? Have you read it? You can reinstall and change
> parts in the same computer as many times as you want. The activation may
> need to be done by phone. For OEM Vista there is some uncertainty about
> upgrading a motherboard, but for retail it's no issue and for OEM it's not
> an issue for changing drives.
>
> > 4. Can I use a tool like Partition Commander 10 to copy my existing
> > system
> > to the new HD?
> > 5. Do I have to reinstall?? It was an upgrade from XP Pro. I don't want
> > to
> > reinstall XP then upgrade again. Help.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>

In message <F66DA0D2-9461-4DC9-9D83-4295CB1BBB1E@microsoft.com> JohnnyD
<JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thanks - That was very informative. Does the raptor x drive make a
>difference in Vista performance. I will find out soon enough. Thanks.

I can't speak to the newer Raptors, I have a first generation Raptor
36.7GB 10,000rpm SATA drive. While it performs surprisingly well in
benchmarks, my experience has shown that a more modern Seagate 400GB
7200.10 7200rpm drive w/NCQ&TCQ can run circles around the Raptor in
everything other then a single sustained read or write.

In other words, for day to day general use in a multitasking operating
system, accessing files scattered around the drive or accessing
fragmented files, the Seagate vastly outperforms the Raptor.

In the rare case where I'm disk-bound doing an operation on a single
huge file, the Raptor is a good choice.

In my case, I use my two Raptors, one for virtual machines, the other
for my pagefile and temporary file storage, and my two 400GB Seagate
drives for day to day use.
--
Insert something clever here.

Thanks again for the info. I bought my Raptor X and the following is what
occurred.
1. I made a copy of my C Drive and restored it to my Raptor X.
2. When booting from the new drive I received a boot error. The message
told me to insert the Vista CD/DVD into the drive and chose REPAIR. When
this finished I was instructed to reboot.
3. The system rebooted and I was told I had to activate(just as you said).
4. MS gave me a new key which I typed into the activate screen and IT WORKED.

An interesting situation followed: The next day I changed the SATA port
that the drive had been plugged into. This was done because I keep my system
disk in a removable drawer, for easy removal etc. The Vista boot process
keeps track of where the C drive is plugged in. SO - I had to do the whole
process again. And that is my story.


"DevilsPGD" wrote:

> In message <F66DA0D2-9461-4DC9-9D83-4295CB1BBB1E@microsoft.com> JohnnyD
> <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks - That was very informative. Does the raptor x drive make a
> >difference in Vista performance. I will find out soon enough. Thanks.
>
> I can't speak to the newer Raptors, I have a first generation Raptor
> 36.7GB 10,000rpm SATA drive. While it performs surprisingly well in
> benchmarks, my experience has shown that a more modern Seagate 400GB
> 7200.10 7200rpm drive w/NCQ&TCQ can run circles around the Raptor in
> everything other then a single sustained read or write.
>
> In other words, for day to day general use in a multitasking operating
> system, accessing files scattered around the drive or accessing
> fragmented files, the Seagate vastly outperforms the Raptor.
>
> In the rare case where I'm disk-bound doing an operation on a single
> huge file, the Raptor is a good choice.
>
> In my case, I use my two Raptors, one for virtual machines, the other
> for my pagefile and temporary file storage, and my two 400GB Seagate
> drives for day to day use.
> --
> Insert something clever here.
>

Yup - Merely moving your OS drive from one controller port to another
de-activates VISTA.

VISTA; the new and improved Pandora's Box! :-0


"JohnnyD" <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6D3CF2A1-CBCE-4C74-886A-79C25C5EBA07@microsoft.com...
> Thanks again for the info. I bought my Raptor X and the following is what
> occurred.
> 1. I made a copy of my C Drive and restored it to my Raptor X.
> 2. When booting from the new drive I received a boot error. The message
> told me to insert the Vista CD/DVD into the drive and chose REPAIR. When
> this finished I was instructed to reboot.
> 3. The system rebooted and I was told I had to activate(just as you said).
> 4. MS gave me a new key which I typed into the activate screen and IT
> WORKED.
>
> An interesting situation followed: The next day I changed the SATA port
> that the drive had been plugged into. This was done because I keep my
> system
> disk in a removable drawer, for easy removal etc. The Vista boot process
> keeps track of where the C drive is plugged in. SO - I had to do the whole
> process again. And that is my story.
>
>
> "DevilsPGD" wrote:
>
>> In message <F66DA0D2-9461-4DC9-9D83-4295CB1BBB1E@microsoft.com> JohnnyD
>> <JohnnyD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks - That was very informative. Does the raptor x drive make a
>> >difference in Vista performance. I will find out soon enough. Thanks.
>>
>> I can't speak to the newer Raptors, I have a first generation Raptor
>> 36.7GB 10,000rpm SATA drive. While it performs surprisingly well in
>> benchmarks, my experience has shown that a more modern Seagate 400GB
>> 7200.10 7200rpm drive w/NCQ&TCQ can run circles around the Raptor in
>> everything other then a single sustained read or write.
>>
>> In other words, for day to day general use in a multitasking operating
>> system, accessing files scattered around the drive or accessing
>> fragmented files, the Seagate vastly outperforms the Raptor.
>>
>> In the rare case where I'm disk-bound doing an operation on a single
>> huge file, the Raptor is a good choice.
>>
>> In my case, I use my two Raptors, one for virtual machines, the other
>> for my pagefile and temporary file storage, and my two 400GB Seagate
>> drives for day to day use.
>> --
>> Insert something clever here.
>>