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Can't work with Vista business
  1. #1


    Steve Franks Guest

    Can't work with Vista business

    I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
    definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try to
    work:
    1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
    The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press the
    power button and shut it down.
    2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?
    3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
    updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
    minutes) whilst they install.
    4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
    access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have to
    use my new 2gb pen drive.
    5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
    blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so the
    program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
    that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but I
    can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor, 1gb
    of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For the
    youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram, but
    was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
    I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
    cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to make
    life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
    Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
    Thanks.
    Steve



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  2. #2


    Mark Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business

    On 2/17/2007 12:00 PM, Steve Franks:
    > I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
    > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try to
    > work:
    > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
    > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press the
    > power button and shut it down.


    Any non-configured or disabled devices in Device Manager?

    Did you run the Vista Upgrade Advisor before installing Vista and
    removing XP from the computer?

    > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?


    Scarcity computing.

    The User Access Control (UAC) just works that way. You can disable it
    in the Control Panel - User Accounts - User Accounts and click the
    option 'Turn User Account Control on or off'.

    If Vista's UAC would remember like ZoneAlarm, or at least remember what
    you previously authorized to access during your logged in Windows
    session, this would be more user friendly than user annoyance (or nuisance).

    > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
    > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
    > minutes) whilst they install.


    This problem correlates to #1 above.

    To take a guess, probably a chipset incompatible driver that may need to
    get upgraded to a Vista compatible driver.

    > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
    > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have to
    > use my new 2gb pen drive.


    Make sure you set the permissions correctly on the Vista share. At
    first I had same problem and remember correcting the access denied issue
    when I adjusted the share permissions.

    > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
    > blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so the
    > program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
    > that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but I
    > can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor, 1gb
    > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For the
    > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram, but
    > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
    > I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
    > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to make
    > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.


    Comparing Windows Vista to Windows XP, Windows XP is the less complex
    and complicated operating system to navigate.

    > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
    > Thanks.
    > Steve


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  3. #3


    Kerry Brown Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business

    I have seen problems like you describe. It was always due to incompatible
    hardware or a wrong or a buggy driver. Did you upgrade or perform a clean
    install? If you did an upgrade my first suggestion would be to start again
    with a clean install to make sure the problems aren't caused by an
    incompatible program or driver carried over from XP.

    --
    Kerry Brown
    Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
    http://www.vistahelp.ca


    "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4F07AFE5-5612-4E20-91C0-BE9209C12AF2@microsoft.com...
    >I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
    > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try
    > to
    > work:
    > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
    > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press
    > the
    > power button and shut it down.
    > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?
    > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
    > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
    > minutes) whilst they install.
    > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
    > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have
    > to
    > use my new 2gb pen drive.
    > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
    > blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so
    > the
    > program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
    > that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but
    > I
    > can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor,
    > 1gb
    > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For
    > the
    > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram,
    > but
    > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
    > I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
    > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to
    > make
    > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
    > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
    > Thanks.
    > Steve



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  4. #4


    Saucy Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business

    INLINE:


    "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4F07AFE5-5612-4E20-91C0-BE9209C12AF2@microsoft.com...
    >I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
    > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try
    > to
    > work:
    > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
    > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press
    > the
    > power button and shut it down.



    Set up a different power saving scheme that doesn't include hibernation or
    sleep. My mobo has never gotten Sleep right. 'Could be the KVM switch


    > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?



    You can easily turn off UAC. Especially at first you might want to, if you
    are installing a lot of software from CD. Once everything is set up on a
    machine you might turn it back on as it is designed to keep malware at bay.


    > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
    > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
    > minutes) whilst they install.



    No. An update will probably not fix this issue. It could be caused by a
    virus scanner or some 3rd party app you've installed. Or , if you have done
    an upgrade, a misconfiguration of some app that was present when XP was the
    OS.


    > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
    > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have
    > to
    > use my new 2gb pen drive.



    You just haven't learned what's going on. Vista is using the more secure
    method of networking by default i.e. one must have an account to network
    with your computer. Check the various Networking features which can be
    accesed through the Control Panel. You can adjust the Password Protected
    networking feature.


    > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
    > blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so
    > the
    > program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
    > that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but
    > I
    > can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor,
    > 1gb
    > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For
    > the
    > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram,
    > but
    > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
    > I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
    > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to
    > make
    > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
    > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
    > Thanks.
    > Steve



    You can use another performace utility that comes with Vista and is found in
    Computer Management:

    Start > right-click Computer > select manage > on the left-hand pane click
    on "Reliability and Performance"

    Did you clean install Vista (from scratch) or do an upgrade? I would
    recommend trying again - doing a clean install from scratch - if the
    installation you have is an upgrade install. There is a technique to clean
    install from scratch even if you only have the upgrade media:

    [How to Clean Install Windows Vista with Upgrade Media]
    http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp

    Before doing so, check for and download and burn to CD-R the latest drivers
    from the manufacturer's websites. Line-up product CD, keys, codes and any
    other necessary info. Make sure important data e.g. documents, music, etc.
    etc. is backed up.

    'Hope it works for you.

    --
    Saucy
    --
    For email:
    guidsaucy at hotmail dot com


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  5. #5


    Steve Franks Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business

    See below:
    --
    Steve Franks


    "Mark" wrote:

    > On 2/17/2007 12:00 PM, Steve Franks:
    > > I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
    > > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try to
    > > work:
    > > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
    > > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press the
    > > power button and shut it down.

    >
    > Any non-configured or disabled devices in Device Manager?

    << No, device manager shows everything working.

    >
    > Did you run the Vista Upgrade Advisor before installing Vista and
    > removing XP from the computer?

    << Yes VUA said the machine was fine, everything should work. Having said
    that I had the same result with my other PC and Vista wouldn't start on it.

    > > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    > > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?

    >
    > Scarcity computing.
    >
    > The User Access Control (UAC) just works that way. You can disable it
    > in the Control Panel - User Accounts - User Accounts and click the
    > option 'Turn User Account Control on or off'.

    << Sounds dangerous, I'll have to think wehther I can stand the annoyance.
    This is the least of my problems.

    > If Vista's UAC would remember like ZoneAlarm, or at least remember what
    > you previously authorized to access during your logged in Windows
    > session, this would be more user friendly than user annoyance (or nuisance).
    >
    > > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
    > > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
    > > minutes) whilst they install.

    >
    > This problem correlates to #1 above.
    >
    > To take a guess, probably a chipset incompatible driver that may need to
    > get upgraded to a Vista compatible driver.

    <<
    > > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    > > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
    > > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    > > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    > > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have to
    > > use my new 2gb pen drive.

    >
    > Make sure you set the permissions correctly on the Vista share. At
    > first I had same problem and remember correcting the access denied issue
    > when I adjusted the share permissions.
    >> Not sure which permissions to set. I don't want to open the network up to hackers. Vista won't let me share the C: drive. I've allowed everyone full access, but my XP home machine can't read the disk.
    > > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
    > > blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so the
    > > program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
    > > that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but I
    > > can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor, 1gb
    > > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For the
    > > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram, but
    > > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
    > > I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
    > > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to make
    > > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.

    >
    > Comparing Windows Vista to Windows XP, Windows XP is the less complex
    > and complicated operating system to navigate.

    << As I said before I thought Vista was going to make it easier for me to do
    what I want, that's not the case so far.
    > > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
    > > Thanks.
    > > Steve

    >


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  6. #6


    Steve Franks Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business

    I have the Vista upgrade disk, so upgraded.
    I've read that this can be used for a clean install, but MS frown upon it.
    Device manager seems to think that all of the drivers are up to date.
    --
    Steve Franks


    "Kerry Brown" wrote:

    > I have seen problems like you describe. It was always due to incompatible
    > hardware or a wrong or a buggy driver. Did you upgrade or perform a clean
    > install? If you did an upgrade my first suggestion would be to start again
    > with a clean install to make sure the problems aren't caused by an
    > incompatible program or driver carried over from XP.
    >
    > --
    > Kerry Brown
    > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
    > http://www.vistahelp.ca
    >
    >
    > "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:4F07AFE5-5612-4E20-91C0-BE9209C12AF2@microsoft.com...
    > >I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
    > > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try
    > > to
    > > work:
    > > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
    > > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press
    > > the
    > > power button and shut it down.
    > > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    > > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?
    > > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
    > > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
    > > minutes) whilst they install.
    > > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    > > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
    > > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    > > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    > > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have
    > > to
    > > use my new 2gb pen drive.
    > > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
    > > blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so
    > > the
    > > program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
    > > that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but
    > > I
    > > can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor,
    > > 1gb
    > > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For
    > > the
    > > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram,
    > > but
    > > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
    > > I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
    > > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to
    > > make
    > > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
    > > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
    > > Thanks.
    > > Steve

    >
    >


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  7. #7


    Kerry Brown Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=196

    --
    Kerry Brown
    Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
    http://www.vistahelp.ca


    "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F71BA9D7-A9D9-407A-9330-67C5BB1EB550@microsoft.com...
    >I have the Vista upgrade disk, so upgraded.
    > I've read that this can be used for a clean install, but MS frown upon it.
    > Device manager seems to think that all of the drivers are up to date.
    > --
    > Steve Franks
    >
    >
    > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
    >
    >> I have seen problems like you describe. It was always due to incompatible
    >> hardware or a wrong or a buggy driver. Did you upgrade or perform a clean
    >> install? If you did an upgrade my first suggestion would be to start
    >> again
    >> with a clean install to make sure the problems aren't caused by an
    >> incompatible program or driver carried over from XP.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Kerry Brown
    >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
    >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
    >>
    >>
    >> "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:4F07AFE5-5612-4E20-91C0-BE9209C12AF2@microsoft.com...
    >> >I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP.
    >> >Vista
    >> > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I
    >> > try
    >> > to
    >> > work:
    >> > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an
    >> > hour.
    >> > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press
    >> > the
    >> > power button and shut it down.
    >> > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    >> > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and
    >> > Zonealarm?
    >> > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of
    >> > the
    >> > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays
    >> > (20-40
    >> > minutes) whilst they install.
    >> > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    >> > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity
    >> > is
    >> > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    >> > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    >> > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just
    >> > have
    >> > to
    >> > use my new 2gb pen drive.
    >> > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays
    >> > the
    >> > blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options,
    >> > so
    >> > the
    >> > program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager,
    >> > but
    >> > that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%,
    >> > but
    >> > I
    >> > can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor,
    >> > 1gb
    >> > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For
    >> > the
    >> > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of
    >> > ram,
    >> > but
    >> > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power
    >> > plant)
    >> > I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows.
    >> > I
    >> > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed
    >> > to
    >> > make
    >> > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
    >> > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be
    >> > appreciated.
    >> > Thanks.
    >> > Steve

    >>
    >>



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  8. #8


    Steve Franks Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business

    Thanks for taking the time to reply.

    --
    Steve Franks


    "Saucy" wrote:

    > INLINE:
    >
    >
    > "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:4F07AFE5-5612-4E20-91C0-BE9209C12AF2@microsoft.com...
    > >I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP. Vista
    > > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I try
    > > to
    > > work:
    > > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an hour.
    > > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press
    > > the
    > > power button and shut it down.

    >
    >
    > Set up a different power saving scheme that doesn't include hibernation or
    > sleep. My mobo has never gotten Sleep right. 'Could be the KVM switch

    <> I've never allowed hibernation or sleep, I don't trust Windows to do it
    right.
    >
    > > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    > > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and Zonealarm?

    >
    >
    > You can easily turn off UAC. Especially at first you might want to, if you
    > are installing a lot of software from CD. Once everything is set up on a
    > machine you might turn it back on as it is designed to keep malware at bay.
    >

    <> This is beyond a joke, I can't even copy files to my pen drive, without
    changing permissions. When I changed permissions to allow everyone full
    control Windows wouldn't let me move files to a subfolder!
    I really cannot waste any more time on this.
    > > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of the
    > > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays (20-40
    > > minutes) whilst they install.

    >
    >
    > No. An update will probably not fix this issue. It could be caused by a
    > virus scanner or some 3rd party app you've installed. Or , if you have done
    > an upgrade, a misconfiguration of some app that was present when XP was the
    > OS.
    >
    > > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    > > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity is
    > > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    > > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    > > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I’ll just have
    > > to
    > > use my new 2gb pen drive.

    >
    >
    > You just haven't learned what's going on. Vista is using the more secure
    > method of networking by default i.e. one must have an account to network
    > with your computer. Check the various Networking features which can be
    > accesed through the Control Panel. You can adjust the Password Protected
    > networking feature.

    <> I don't want to learn what's going on. I should not have to. If I buy a
    car I don't expect to have to take an automotive engineering degree before I
    can drive it away.
    The defaults should allow one to perform reasonable actions, like copying
    files between folders/computers. It defeats the object when a computer
    administrator doesn't have sufficient rights to perform these everyday
    functions.
    >
    > > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it’s a joke. Sometimes Vista displays the
    > > blue screen of death and says that it can’t open the security options, so
    > > the
    > > program won’t even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager, but
    > > that says that there’s nothing running. System idle process is at 99%, but
    > > I
    > > can’t do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor,
    > > 1gb
    > > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For
    > > the
    > > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of ram,
    > > but
    > > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power plant)
    > > I don’t want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows. I
    > > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed to
    > > make
    > > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
    > > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be appreciated.
    > > Thanks.
    > > Steve

    >
    >
    > You can use another performace utility that comes with Vista and is found in
    > Computer Management:
    >
    > Start > right-click Computer > select manage > on the left-hand pane click
    > on "Reliability and Performance"

    <> Did that. It's showing reliability dropping on an almost daily basis, yet
    another reason to return to XP.
    > Did you clean install Vista (from scratch) or do an upgrade? I would
    > recommend trying again - doing a clean install from scratch - if the
    > installation you have is an upgrade install. There is a technique to clean
    > install from scratch even if you only have the upgrade media:
    >
    > [How to Clean Install Windows Vista with Upgrade Media]
    > http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp
    >
    > Before doing so, check for and download and burn to CD-R the latest drivers
    > from the manufacturer's websites. Line-up product CD, keys, codes and any
    > other necessary info. Make sure important data e.g. documents, music, etc.
    > etc. is backed up.

    <>I've wasted too much time already. If I have to format the drive to
    install from scratch I'll just go back to XP.
    The real killer for me is that I can't back up Vista across my network,
    because it won't write the data to my XP Home computer.

    Maybe when Microsoft have issued a couple of service packs I'll try again,
    but right now I'm going to reformat and install XP.
    > 'Hope it works for you.

    <> Nope.
    > --
    > Saucy
    > --
    > For email:
    > guidsaucy at hotmail dot com
    >
    >


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  9. #9


    Jake Guest

    Re: Can't work with Vista business


    "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news5DE2905-8DCB-4384-B371-E57ADA4F9752@microsoft.com...
    > Thanks for taking the time to reply.
    >
    > --
    > Steve Franks
    >
    >
    > "Saucy" wrote:
    >
    >> INLINE:
    >>
    >>
    >> "Steve Franks" <SteveFranks@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:4F07AFE5-5612-4E20-91C0-BE9209C12AF2@microsoft.com...
    >> >I think that I'm going to have to wipe my machine and reinstall XP.
    >> >Vista
    >> > definitely has not wowed me. It just keeps getting in the way when I
    >> > try
    >> > to
    >> > work:
    >> > 1) Long naps at random intervals. It just stops working for up to an
    >> > hour.
    >> > The mouse moves, but nothing else reacts. The only solution is to press
    >> > the
    >> > power button and shut it down.

    >>
    >>
    >> Set up a different power saving scheme that doesn't include hibernation
    >> or
    >> sleep. My mobo has never gotten Sleep right. 'Could be the KVM switch

    > <> I've never allowed hibernation or sleep, I don't trust Windows to do it
    > right.
    >>
    >> > 2) Frequent requests for authorisation, almost any action requires my
    >> > permission. Why doesn't it remember what I said, like Kerio and
    >> > Zonealarm?

    >>
    >>
    >> You can easily turn off UAC. Especially at first you might want to, if
    >> you
    >> are installing a lot of software from CD. Once everything is set up on a
    >> machine you might turn it back on as it is designed to keep malware at
    >> bay.
    >>

    > <> This is beyond a joke, I can't even copy files to my pen drive, without
    > changing permissions. When I changed permissions to allow everyone full
    > control Windows wouldn't let me move files to a subfolder!
    > I really cannot waste any more time on this.
    >> > 3) Incredibly slow installation of updates. I keep hoping that one of
    >> > the
    >> > updates will improve its performance, but all I get is long delays
    >> > (20-40
    >> > minutes) whilst they install.

    >>
    >>
    >> No. An update will probably not fix this issue. It could be caused by a
    >> virus scanner or some 3rd party app you've installed. Or , if you have
    >> done
    >> an upgrade, a misconfiguration of some app that was present when XP was
    >> the
    >> OS.
    >>
    >> > 4) Inoperable network. Very few things work on my network (Two PCs in a
    >> > workgroup, one Vista Business, the other XP Home). The latest calamity
    >> > is
    >> > access denied on destination folder copying from XP to Documents (or
    >> > C:\Downloads). Office Groove will synchronise the Documents folder, but
    >> > ignores .exes and I want to copy an installation program. I'll just
    >> > have
    >> > to
    >> > use my new 2gb pen drive.

    >>
    >>
    >> You just haven't learned what's going on. Vista is using the more secure
    >> method of networking by default i.e. one must have an account to network
    >> with your computer. Check the various Networking features which can be
    >> accesed through the Control Panel. You can adjust the Password Protected
    >> networking feature.

    > <> I don't want to learn what's going on. I should not have to. If I buy a
    > car I don't expect to have to take an automotive engineering degree before
    > I
    > can drive it away.
    > The defaults should allow one to perform reasonable actions, like copying
    > files between folders/computers. It defeats the object when a computer
    > administrator doesn't have sufficient rights to perform these everyday
    > functions.
    >>
    >> > 5) Task manager. What can I say, it's a joke. Sometimes Vista displays
    >> > the
    >> > blue screen of death and says that it can't open the security options,
    >> > so
    >> > the
    >> > program won't even start. The rest of the time, it opens Task Manager,
    >> > but
    >> > that says that there's nothing running. System idle process is at 99%,
    >> > but
    >> > I
    >> > can't do any work. This machine has a dual core Pentium 3ghz processor,
    >> > 1gb
    >> > of RAM and a huge hard disk, but I could achieve more with a ZX80. (For
    >> > the
    >> > youngsters out there this machine had a 4mhz Z80 processor and 1k of
    >> > ram,
    >> > but
    >> > was reputed to have enough processing power to run a nuclear power
    >> > plant)
    >> > I don't want to have to be an expert on the inner workings of Windows.
    >> > I
    >> > cannot afford to take an in-depth security course. Vista was supposed
    >> > to
    >> > make
    >> > life easier, not stop it in its tracks.
    >> > Any suggestions on how to improve Vista performance would be
    >> > appreciated.
    >> > Thanks.
    >> > Steve

    >>
    >>
    >> You can use another performace utility that comes with Vista and is found
    >> in
    >> Computer Management:
    >>
    >> Start > right-click Computer > select manage > on the left-hand pane
    >> click
    >> on "Reliability and Performance"

    > <> Did that. It's showing reliability dropping on an almost daily basis,
    > yet
    > another reason to return to XP.
    >> Did you clean install Vista (from scratch) or do an upgrade? I would
    >> recommend trying again - doing a clean install from scratch - if the
    >> installation you have is an upgrade install. There is a technique to
    >> clean
    >> install from scratch even if you only have the upgrade media:
    >>
    >> [How to Clean Install Windows Vista with Upgrade Media]
    >> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp
    >>
    >> Before doing so, check for and download and burn to CD-R the latest
    >> drivers
    >> from the manufacturer's websites. Line-up product CD, keys, codes and any
    >> other necessary info. Make sure important data e.g. documents, music,
    >> etc.
    >> etc. is backed up.

    > <>I've wasted too much time already. If I have to format the drive to
    > install from scratch I'll just go back to XP.
    > The real killer for me is that I can't back up Vista across my network,
    > because it won't write the data to my XP Home computer.
    >
    > Maybe when Microsoft have issued a couple of service packs I'll try again,
    > but right now I'm going to reformat and install XP.
    >> 'Hope it works for you.

    > <> Nope.
    >> --
    >> Saucy
    >> --
    >> For email:
    >> guidsaucy at hotmail dot com

    Similar experience this end. I'm back using XP prof and enjoying it 100%
    !!!!!!!!!!!!
    >>
    >>




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