Vista - Any fix coming Vista's slowness?

I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200 mb
to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the calculation, I
finally cancelled it before it finished doing the calculation. Even copying
small amounts of data is extremly slow.
I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I even
tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took around 15
seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this box.
Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
considerably slower but noticably slower.
I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch or
SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I think
I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least six
months to a year for a couple more revisions.

Try turning off the indexing. From what I've understand Vistas indexing
likes to hog the harddrive for some time after installation. Although I
doubt this is the true cause for your problem. I would also take a look at
the motherboard and its buss speeds, still only a thought.

"Eric" <someone@mydomain.com> skrev i meddelandet
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>I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
>decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
>install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
>installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
>seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
> File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
> calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200
> mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the
> calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing the
> calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
> I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
> log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I
> even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took
> around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this
> box.
> Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
> considerably slower but noticably slower.
> I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch
> or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I
> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least
> six months to a year for a couple more revisions.

sorry, this should have read 500 GB hd instead of mb.

"Eric" <someone@mydomain.com> wrote in message
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>I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
>decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
>install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
>installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
>seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
> File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
> calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200
> mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the
> calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing the
> calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
> I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
> log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I
> even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took
> around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this
> box.
> Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
> considerably slower but noticably slower.
> I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch
> or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I
> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least
> six months to a year for a couple more revisions.

As many have pointed out, the best solution is to insert your XP CD,
reboot (and if needed, set your BIOS to allow booting to CD before HD in
the boot order) and follow the install instructions for a clean install.
Then everything will work as you want and you'll have a very fast
computer, rather than one that feels like a automobile dragging a giant
boat anchor.

Enjoy

Eric wrote:
> I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
> 2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
> decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a
> clean install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade).
> I've installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my
> components (i've seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are
> just painfully slow. File copying is rediculous. Is there a way
> to turn off the size/time calculation function? Once, I tried to
> copy a subdirectory of about 200 mb to another computer and Vista
> spent literally hours doing the calculation, I finally cancelled it
> before it finished doing the calculation. Even copying small amounts
> of data is extremly slow. I'll often lock my computer when I walk
> away from it, just lock it, no log off, when I come back and
> ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message.
> I even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still
> took around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was
> instantaneous on this box. Also, nearly every application runs
> slower than it did under XP, not considerably slower but noticably
> slower. I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the
> next patch or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't
> come soon, I
> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at
> least six months to a year for a couple more revisions.

Been there , done that , Vista is still much slower then xp was on my pc.

--
Carl G

"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
news:#6itgO6UHHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> As many have pointed out, the best solution is to insert your XP CD,
> reboot (and if needed, set your BIOS to allow booting to CD before HD in
> the boot order) and follow the install instructions for a clean install.
> Then everything will work as you want and you'll have a very fast
> computer, rather than one that feels like a automobile dragging a giant
> boat anchor.
>
> Enjoy
>
> Eric wrote:
>> I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>> 2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
>> decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a
>> clean install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
>> installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my
>> components (i've seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are
>> just painfully slow. File copying is rediculous. Is there a way
>> to turn off the size/time calculation function? Once, I tried to
>> copy a subdirectory of about 200 mb to another computer and Vista
>> spent literally hours doing the calculation, I finally cancelled it
>> before it finished doing the calculation. Even copying small amounts
>> of data is extremly slow. I'll often lock my computer when I walk
>> away from it, just lock it, no log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del
>> to unlock it takes about 15
>> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message.
>> I even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still
>> took around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was
>> instantaneous on this box. Also, nearly every application runs
>> slower than it did under XP, not considerably slower but noticably
>> slower. I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the
>> next patch or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't
>> come soon, I
>> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at
>> least six months to a year for a couple more revisions.
>
>

I have it the opposite, Vista runn far faster then XP even opening
programs... I would want it to check before copying, I don't want to have
to keep deleting files just because a file or folder could not be deleted.

"Saran" <none@nospam> wrote in message
news:%236itgO6UHHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> As many have pointed out, the best solution is to insert your XP CD,
> reboot (and if needed, set your BIOS to allow booting to CD before HD in
> the boot order) and follow the install instructions for a clean install.
> Then everything will work as you want and you'll have a very fast
> computer, rather than one that feels like a automobile dragging a giant
> boat anchor.
>
> Enjoy
>
> Eric wrote:
>> I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>> 2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
>> decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a
>> clean install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
>> installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my
>> components (i've seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are
>> just painfully slow. File copying is rediculous. Is there a way
>> to turn off the size/time calculation function? Once, I tried to
>> copy a subdirectory of about 200 mb to another computer and Vista
>> spent literally hours doing the calculation, I finally cancelled it
>> before it finished doing the calculation. Even copying small amounts
>> of data is extremly slow. I'll often lock my computer when I walk
>> away from it, just lock it, no log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del
>> to unlock it takes about 15
>> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message.
>> I even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still
>> took around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was
>> instantaneous on this box. Also, nearly every application runs
>> slower than it did under XP, not considerably slower but noticably
>> slower. I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the
>> next patch or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't
>> come soon, I
>> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at
>> least six months to a year for a couple more revisions.
>
>

I have it the opposite, Vista runn far faster then XP even opening
programs... I would want it to check before copying, I don't want to have
to keep deleting files just because a file or folder could not be deleted.

Intel 1.66 Ghz Dual Core Duo, 2G of ram, Dual Hard Drives, Vista Ultimate.

"Eric" <someone@mydomain.com> wrote in message
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>I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
>decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
>install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
>installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
>seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
> File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
> calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200
> mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the
> calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing the
> calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
> I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
> log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I
> even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took
> around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this
> box.
> Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
> considerably slower but noticably slower.
> I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch
> or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I
> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least
> six months to a year for a couple more revisions.

Linus Askerlund wrote:
> Try turning off the indexing. From what I've understand Vistas indexing
> likes to hog the harddrive for some time after installation. Although I
> doubt this is the true cause for your problem. I would also take a look
> at the motherboard and its buss speeds, still only a thought.
>
> "Eric" <someone@mydomain.com> skrev i meddelandet
> news:%238yAg%235UHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>> 2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine.
>> I decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a
>> clean install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade).
>> I've installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my
>> components (i've seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are
>> just painfully slow.
>> File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the
>> size/time calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory
>> of about 200 mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours
>> doing the calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing
>> the calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
>> I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it,
>> no log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about
>> 15 seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome
>> message. I even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it
>> still took around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was
>> instantaneous on this box.
>> Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP,
>> not considerably slower but noticably slower.
>> I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next
>> patch or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come
>> soon, I think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and
>> wait at least six months to a year for a couple more revisions.
>

What he is describing is unlikely due to indexing. Indexing should not
take more than a few hours and really does not slow things up like he is
saying. To have to take several hours doing a calculation for a copy is
not an indexing problem. That is some other serious problem.

It might be that going back to XP is the solution. But Vista works well
on my system, at least as fast as XP in most cases, and I enjoy it
better than XP. I have not timed file copying, either over the LAN or
locally, but I don't notice any major problem. I don't think the issue
is speed, per se, but making it compatible with more hardware.

My Vista PC is similarly configured to yours. I don't have any performance
issues on it. I suggest looking for upgraded drivers for just about
everything on your PC.


Dale


"Eric" <someone@mydomain.com> wrote in message
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>I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
>decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
>install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
>installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
>seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
> File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
> calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200
> mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the
> calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing the
> calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
> I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
> log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I
> even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took
> around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this
> box.
> Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
> considerably slower but noticably slower.
> I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch
> or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I
> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least
> six months to a year for a couple more revisions.

"Eric" <someone@mydomain.com> wrote in message
news:%238yAg%235UHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I bought a new computer system a couple months ago. Pentium core 2duo
>2.16ghz, 2GB ram, 500 mb hd. I installed XP on it and all ran fine. I
>decided to try out Vista Ultimate RTM. I installed it but did a clean
>install by completely formatting the drive first (no upgrade). I've
>installed the absolute latest drivers I could find for my components (i've
>seen some posts suggesting this) but some areas are just painfully slow.
> File copying is rediculous. Is there a way to turn off the size/time
> calculation function? Once, I tried to copy a subdirectory of about 200
> mb to another computer and Vista spent literally hours doing the
> calculation, I finally cancelled it before it finished doing the
> calculation. Even copying small amounts of data is extremly slow.
> I'll often lock my computer when I walk away from it, just lock it, no
> log off, when I come back and ctrl-alt-del to unlock it takes about 15
> seconds before it comes back up. I get the spinning Welcome message. I
> even tried locking it and immediately unlocking it and it still took
> around 15 seconds to come back up. In XP, this was instantaneous on this
> box.
> Also, nearly every application runs slower than it did under XP, not
> considerably slower but noticably slower.
> I hope this speed is issue is a top priority at MS for the next patch
> or SP for vista and I hope it comes soon. If a fix doesn't come soon, I
> think I'll bite the bullet and go back to XP on this box and wait at least
> six months to a year for a couple more revisions.


I've posted in a few suggestions in a 'Speeding up Vista' thread a few
threads up, which may help.

--
Jon