Vista - decided to go back to XP, license question

Due to too many issues with Vista, I've decided to go back to XP.

MS's EULA states that if I "upgraded" to Vista, my XP key would be rendered
void, so how do I go back exactly?
Sounds as though MS has decided that I can't "downgrade".
Do they expect me to go out and buy XP again or is there some procedure to
get my XP key reinstated?

I would reinstall Windows XP, and if it won't activate call Microsoft and
use the telephone activation system.

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"johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Due to too many issues with Vista, I've decided to go back to XP.
>
> MS's EULA states that if I "upgraded" to Vista, my XP key would be
> rendered void, so how do I go back exactly?
> Sounds as though MS has decided that I can't "downgrade".
> Do they expect me to go out and buy XP again or is there some procedure to
> get my XP key reinstated?
>

yea but... isn't my XP key now invalid, meaning they won't activate it
either way?

"... 13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for
the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement
takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After
you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from...."

Sounds as though they're saying I gave up my license on the copy of XP - did
I?


"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
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>I would reinstall Windows XP, and if it won't activate call Microsoft and
>use the telephone activation system.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
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>
>
> "johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:eoQO0F8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Due to too many issues with Vista, I've decided to go back to XP.
>>
>> MS's EULA states that if I "upgraded" to Vista, my XP key would be
>> rendered void, so how do I go back exactly?
>> Sounds as though MS has decided that I can't "downgrade".
>> Do they expect me to go out and buy XP again or is there some procedure
>> to get my XP key reinstated?
>>
>
>
>

No.

In other words as long as you are using Vista you cannot use XP.

However if you are now using XP and aren't using Vista then you are fully
compliant with the EULA

This is the one thing I have to keep arguing about with people.

Vista DOES NOT take away your rights to use your XP key, however it does
tell you that you cannot use it if you have an upgrade to Vista using that
license as the key.

That's all.


"johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
news:uUGu2V8UHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> yea but... isn't my XP key now invalid, meaning they won't activate it
> either way?
>
> "... 13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for
> the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this
> agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded
> from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded
> from...."
>
> Sounds as though they're saying I gave up my license on the copy of XP -
> did I?
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:OJG0bR8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I would reinstall Windows XP, and if it won't activate call Microsoft and
>>use the telephone activation system.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:eoQO0F8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Due to too many issues with Vista, I've decided to go back to XP.
>>>
>>> MS's EULA states that if I "upgraded" to Vista, my XP key would be
>>> rendered void, so how do I go back exactly?
>>> Sounds as though MS has decided that I can't "downgrade".
>>> Do they expect me to go out and buy XP again or is there some procedure
>>> to get my XP key reinstated?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

The worst thing that can happen is that they say no, the best thing that can
happen is that it activates. I suspect it will be re-activated.

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"johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
news:uUGu2V8UHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> yea but... isn't my XP key now invalid, meaning they won't activate it
> either way?
>
> "... 13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for
> the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this
> agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded
> from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded
> from...."
>
> Sounds as though they're saying I gave up my license on the copy of XP -
> did I?
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:OJG0bR8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I would reinstall Windows XP, and if it won't activate call Microsoft and
>>use the telephone activation system.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:eoQO0F8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Due to too many issues with Vista, I've decided to go back to XP.
>>>
>>> MS's EULA states that if I "upgraded" to Vista, my XP key would be
>>> rendered void, so how do I go back exactly?
>>> Sounds as though MS has decided that I can't "downgrade".
>>> Do they expect me to go out and buy XP again or is there some procedure
>>> to get my XP key reinstated?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I should think that calling MS and saying "Don't like Vista, returning it
for a refund, please re-activate XP" would work. Would love to hear about
any response to the contrary...

Lang

"johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
news:uUGu2V8UHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> yea but... isn't my XP key now invalid, meaning they won't activate it
> either way?
>
> "... 13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for
> the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this
> agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded
> from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded
> from...."
>
> Sounds as though they're saying I gave up my license on the copy of XP -
> did I?
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:OJG0bR8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I would reinstall Windows XP, and if it won't activate call Microsoft and
>>use the telephone activation system.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:eoQO0F8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Due to too many issues with Vista, I've decided to go back to XP.
>>>
>>> MS's EULA states that if I "upgraded" to Vista, my XP key would be
>>> rendered void, so how do I go back exactly?
>>> Sounds as though MS has decided that I can't "downgrade".
>>> Do they expect me to go out and buy XP again or is there some procedure
>>> to get my XP key reinstated?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I guarantee they will reactivate your XP license. If not, I will let you
have my ex-wife!


"johnm" <johnm@msn.com> wrote in message
news:eoQO0F8UHHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Due to too many issues with Vista, I've decided to go back to XP.
>
> MS's EULA states that if I "upgraded" to Vista, my XP key would be
> rendered void, so how do I go back exactly?
> Sounds as though MS has decided that I can't "downgrade".
> Do they expect me to go out and buy XP again or is there some procedure to
> get my XP key reinstated?
>

In message <OhfEzL9UHHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Richard G. Harper"
<rgharper@email.com> wrote:

>The worst thing that can happen is that they say no, the best thing that can
>happen is that it activates. I suspect it will be re-activated.

It *must* be reactivated, since in order to reinstall Vista, you need to
install *AND ACTIVATE* XP first.
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:46:21 -0700, DevilsPGD
<spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:

>It *must* be reactivated, since in order to reinstall Vista, you need to
>install *AND ACTIVATE* XP first.
thats what MS says but it isn't true

In message <gj1mt2d7i3cl92rdktrgj865ad28ihtms1@4ax.com> bp
<6ball@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:46:21 -0700, DevilsPGD
><spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>>It *must* be reactivated, since in order to reinstall Vista, you need to
>>install *AND ACTIVATE* XP first.
>
> thats what MS says but it isn't true

While there seems to be some confusion (I installed my upgrade copy from
a DVD bootup, single install, no trickery required), assuming you follow
Microsoft's written word, they cannot disable XP activation because it's
required to reinstall Vista.
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