Vista - Ghosting

I downloaded the trial of Acronis either I'm missing something or just use
to ghost but it says my backup drive has to be totally empty to put the
image there, I have a 111gb second drive partitioned into 4 sections with
one section totally empty for the image but only the whole drive shows
during the image wizard, not all 4 partitions, what am I missing or not
understanding? Thanks again



"Stefano" <Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:61562EB8-CF4A-45B6-B694-A58D93311222@microsoft.com...
> Symantec is really a "kiss of death"; Norton products, when they were
> "Peter Norton" rocked. I still have somewhere "Norton Commander" for DOS
> and all the other great software suites made for Win95 etc. Now I would
> not touch any Symantec/Norton products for any reason; once you install
> the Symantec AV suite you have only one option: format and re-install.
> I used Delrina FaxWorks and TalkWorks for years, after Symantec bought it
> I had only problems and BSOD.
> I really hope that Acronis will not follow the same pattern.
> Have a nice day
> Stefano C.
>
> "Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
> news2uot2h0asfv3l16csobe328d82igti14v@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:36:26 -0500, "Stefano"
>> <Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> spake thusly:
>>
>>>Not sure about the pricing but as an user I can confirm that Acronis is
>>>way
>>>better than Symantec. I use both the workstation and the server edition
>>>and
>>>there is no comparison.
>>>Have a nice day.
>>>Stefano C.
>>
>> Acronis rocks AND it's not Symantec. (yet.....) :-)
>> --
>> Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com
>>
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>> NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
>> be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
>

> 1. Ghost 8 is not Vista compatible
>
> 2. Ghost 9 is not Vista compatible
>
> 3. You can only "recover" from a Ghost 'RECOVERY Environment CD - hence
> it's name.
>
> 4. You create an image from with Vista, after you have installed a
> "compatible" version of Ghost
>

Ghost 11 is working here

Sounds like you are trying to use drive copy. That mandates that the 2nd
drive be clean, and of equal or greater size (capacity).

You want backup. You can then backup only your system partition (your
choice) to another drive. The image is stored as a file on the backup drive.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Mike Oxbig" <you@thankyou.com> wrote in message
news:C2F0661D-46E6-4AA3-9C48-DD45D328D451@microsoft.com...
>I downloaded the trial of Acronis either I'm missing something or just use
>to ghost but it says my backup drive has to be totally empty to put the
>image there, I have a 111gb second drive partitioned into 4 sections with
>one section totally empty for the image but only the whole drive shows
>during the image wizard, not all 4 partitions, what am I missing or not
>understanding? Thanks again
>
>
>
> "Stefano" <Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:61562EB8-CF4A-45B6-B694-A58D93311222@microsoft.com...
>> Symantec is really a "kiss of death"; Norton products, when they were
>> "Peter Norton" rocked. I still have somewhere "Norton Commander" for DOS
>> and all the other great software suites made for Win95 etc. Now I would
>> not touch any Symantec/Norton products for any reason; once you install
>> the Symantec AV suite you have only one option: format and re-install.
>> I used Delrina FaxWorks and TalkWorks for years, after Symantec bought it
>> I had only problems and BSOD.
>> I really hope that Acronis will not follow the same pattern.
>> Have a nice day
>> Stefano C.
>>
>> "Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
>> news2uot2h0asfv3l16csobe328d82igti14v@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:36:26 -0500, "Stefano"
>>> <Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> spake thusly:
>>>
>>>>Not sure about the pricing but as an user I can confirm that Acronis is
>>>>way
>>>>better than Symantec. I use both the workstation and the server edition
>>>>and
>>>>there is no comparison.
>>>>Have a nice day.
>>>>Stefano C.
>>>
>>> Acronis rocks AND it's not Symantec. (yet.....) :-)
>>> --
>>> Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com
>>>
>>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>> NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
>>> be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
>>
>

Fine. Can you also "create" an image when booting from their "Recovery"
environment CD?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



"Michel" <michel@kpnplanet.nl> wrote in message
news:OPjdnOeVHHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> 1. Ghost 8 is not Vista compatible
>>
>> 2. Ghost 9 is not Vista compatible
>>
>> 3. You can only "recover" from a Ghost 'RECOVERY Environment CD -
>> hence it's name.
>>
>> 4. You create an image from with Vista, after you have installed a
>> "compatible" version of Ghost
>>
>
> Ghost 11 is working here

Michal, does Drive Snapshot support Vista? There is nothing on the website
that indicates that it is currently Vista compatible. At least Acronis true
Image 10 'is' vista compatible

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"Michal Kawecki" <kkwinto@o2.pl> wrote in message
news:uRRYbJeVHHA.4632@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Mike Oxbig" <you@thankyou.com> wrote in message
>> news:C4668830-48EA-42F1-821F-B3727A757FB6@microsoft.com...
>> > Has anybody got Ghost 8 to work with Vista, I boot into the
>> > ghost program with no problems. I can see both of my drives but
>> > when I go to create an image to disc, my other drive doesn't not
>> > show, only the A drive shows, any suggestions? Thanks
>
> Forget Ghost, use Drive Snapshot http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/home.htm .
> It's far more better.
> --
> Michal Kawecki [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
> Warsaw, PL
>
>

I'm using a bootable USB-stick, the only thing you need is Ghost.exe (DOS)



> Fine. Can you also "create" an image when booting from their "Recovery"
> environment CD?
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
>
>
> "Michel" <michel@kpnplanet.nl> wrote in message
> news:OPjdnOeVHHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> 1. Ghost 8 is not Vista compatible
>>>
>>> 2. Ghost 9 is not Vista compatible
>>>
>>> 3. You can only "recover" from a Ghost 'RECOVERY Environment CD -
>>> hence it's name.
>>>
>>> 4. You create an image from with Vista, after you have installed a
>>> "compatible" version of Ghost
>>>
>>
>> Ghost 11 is working here
>

I everyday run batch with this small app on my personal machine, so I
can confirm that it work wihout any problem under Vista Ultimate. I had
always installed it on my product machines under XP, W2k, NT4, and it
always worked reliable. This is a great product.

It don't require installation on hdd, a single .exe file is enough to
properly doing it's job. You can run this file even from Vista recovery
DVD and from there you can recover your partitions, create new images,
or assign a letter to your previously created image and - in comfortable
manner - copy out single files from it. It know differential backups,
can copy files being use, compress and encrypt images with AES key, and
using switches we can select any folder or single file to skip before
creating image. It can recover images into smaller partitions than
original, correct different disk geometry, repair missing MBR start
code, set/unset active partition, clear/set HDD nt-signature. It has
almost all positive features which should have a good imaging program.
This one should be a Complete PC Backup, not that unfinished app what's
in our systems... :-(

P.S. The nevest beta version (
http://www.drivesnapshot.de/download/sn138rc2.exe ) can use Volume
Shadow Copy Service and safely image running MS Exchange server. It can
even save multiple partitions at once.
--
Michal Kawecki [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
Warsaw, PL


> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:u1UaJaeVHHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Michal, does Drive Snapshot support Vista? There is nothing on
> > the website that indicates that it is currently Vista
> > compatible. At least Acronis true Image 10 'is' vista compatible
> >
> > --
> > John Barnett MVP
> > Associate Expert
> > Windows - Shell/User
> >
> > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >
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> > of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> > this mail/post.. "Michal Kawecki" <kkwinto@o2.pl> wrote in message
> > news:uRRYbJeVHHA.4632@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>> "Mike Oxbig" <you@thankyou.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:C4668830-48EA-42F1-821F-B3727A757FB6@microsoft.com...
> >>> > Has anybody got Ghost 8 to work with Vista, I boot into the
> >>> > ghost program with no problems. I can see both of my
> > > > > drives but when I go to create an image to disc, my
> > > > > other drive doesn't not show, only the A drive shows, any
> > > > > suggestions? Thanks
> >>
> >> Forget Ghost, use Drive Snapshot
> > > http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/home.htm . It's far more better.
> >> --
> >> Michal Kawecki [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
> >> Warsaw, PL
> >>
> >>
> >

Mike there are two Symantec products depending on your needs on that link.
Personally, I'm using Acronis because it has had years of such positive
backing and it has a lot of fans on this thread. I've used GHOST before,
but I started using Acronis 2 years ago. I haven't used both products.

Acronis has a trial. I don't remember Symantec ever offering trials.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...oad/trueimage/

CH

"Mike Oxbig" <you@thankyou.com> wrote in message
news:FE86C49E-8852-48A4-8B8B-8C8D68C6ADDC@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the help, so it lookes like if I only want to make an image of
> my drive to restore I need this version Symantec Ghost Solution Suite 2.0
> ?
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
> news:umORnbcVHHA.1016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I doubt you'll get Ghost 8 working on Vista or Ghost 9. I'd move to the
>>newest and I do always try to use older software when it will work. The
>>newest is
>>
>> http://www.symantec.com/themes/ghost/index.jsp
>>
>> CH
>>
>> "Mike Oxbig" <you@thankyou.com> wrote in message
>> news:C4668830-48EA-42F1-821F-B3727A757FB6@microsoft.com...
>>> Has anybody got Ghost 8 to work with Vista, I boot into the ghost
>>> program with no problems. I can see both of my drives but when I go to
>>> create an image to disc, my other drive doesn't not show, only the A
>>> drive shows, any suggestions? Thanks
>>
>

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:33:33 -0500, "Stefano"
<Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> spake thusly:
>
>"Scott" <geekboy@angrykeyboarder.comatose> wrote in message
>news2uot2h0asfv3l16csobe328d82igti14v@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:36:26 -0500, "Stefano"
>> <Fritzly@nospam.gmail.com> spake thusly:
>>
>>>Not sure about the pricing but as an user I can confirm that Acronis is
>>>way
>>>better than Symantec. I use both the workstation and the server edition
>>>and
>>>there is no comparison.
>>>Have a nice day.
>>>Stefano C.
>>
>> Acronis rocks AND it's not Symantec. (yet.....) :-)
>
>Symantec is really a "kiss of death"; Norton products, when they were "Peter
>Norton" rocked. I still have somewhere "Norton Commander" for DOS and all
>the other great software suites made for Win95 etc. Now I would not touch
>any Symantec/Norton products for any reason; once you install the Symantec
>AV suite you have only one option: format and re-install.
>I used Delrina FaxWorks and TalkWorks for years, after Symantec bought it I
>had only problems and BSOD.
>I really hope that Acronis will not follow the same pattern.
>Have a nice day

Symantec has ruined many products by buying out their makers. As I
rhetorically asked in another post..:

WTF HAVE they produced that's "original"? What are they
selling now that they developed from day one?

They ruined (or ignored) some apps I really liked once upon a time.
And now all they produce is bloatware that crashes. And their "live
update" feature often doesn't work, crashes, or messes up an
update/install halfway through it.

I'm astounded by the fact that despite all this, they continue to be
popular.
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:25:59 -0500, "Chad Harris"
<vistaneedsmuchowork.net> spake thusly:

>Mike there are two Symantec products depending on your needs on that link.
>Personally, I'm using Acronis because it has had years of such positive
>backing and it has a lot of fans on this thread. I've used GHOST before,
>but I started using Acronis 2 years ago. I haven't used both products.
>
>Acronis has a trial. I don't remember Symantec ever offering trials.
>
>http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing...oad/trueimage/

Symantec offers trials on a lot of Norton Products. I'm not sure if
Ghost is one of them or not.
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.