Vista - Why Vista is great

Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go use
a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.

I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've 1)
probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to pirate
a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main years of
hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for that
OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3) You
just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.

Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with dated
hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your "right
here, right now" crying nonsense.

Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get lost
and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of the
people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with your
BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
your nether regions.

Get real... Vista is awesome.

"Cody" <Cody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05B3C561-B541-45AC-94C1-58798486E78E@microsoft.com...
> Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
> your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go
> use
> a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.
>
> I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've
> 1)
> probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to
> pirate
> a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main years
> of
> hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
> quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for that
> OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3) You
> just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.
>
> Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
> are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with
> dated
> hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
> incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your
> "right
> here, right now" crying nonsense.
>
> Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get
> lost
> and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of
> the
> people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with
> your
> BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
> your nether regions.
>
> Get real... Vista is awesome.
>
Define "great" and "best OS ever".

I've been there with Vista and found absolutely nothing in it that was
superior to Windows 2000. Many of the things people are raving (positively)
about are nothing new. Voice Recognition? Integral to OS/2 Warp 3. The
supposed new features of the Windows browser remind me a lot of what I have
available now through Adobe bridge. Many of the other supposed "Wow!"
features are nothing new to user of other operating systems. They are just
new to Windows. All you're getting is prettier pictures to look at on the
screen, nothing new really behind the scenes.

I ended up reformatting and installing XP rather than ride the tide. I'm
happier for it.

Many of the things people are raving (negatively) about are far more
significant. Hardware that needs to be replaced simply because there are no
Vista drivers and the hardware vendors have no intention of writing the
drivers because . . . you guessed it . . . they'd rather sell you a new
piece of hardware rather than furnish an upgraded driver. Look through the
posts on the Vista news groups for the horror stories people are having with
video cards, audio cards, scanners and other related peripherals. And this
is not even including the problems people are having listening to music they
own or watching movies they own because of DRM glitches.

Unless you are in the business of selling new hardware and software, Vista
is a giant step backwards for too many people. But you know what? Vista will
succeed. It's just too bad that it will succeed for all the wrong reasons.
It will succeed because companies will stop producing hardware that will run
on previous editions of Windows. When your printer or scanner needs
replacing, you will be out of luck. It will succeed because application
developers will write new programs that require Vista and not be compatible
with previous versions of Windows. Vista will succeed because when you buy
your next computer you will not have a choice of what operating system to
run. Vista will not succeed because of any superiority.

Well said, however... would you not agree that creating an entirely "new"
platform is not a good thing? For those who still want to 'ride the wave'
with XP and their existing hardware can do so; when ready the new hardware
you'll buy will all be compatible.

However, I've not run into a single hardware compatability issue with any of
the 3 systems I've installed Vista on. Even a scanner (an old HP 3300c) which
is what, from '99 I think? I'm pretty sure that oddly enough, to negate your
argument here... the driver database in Vista is much larger than in XP.
Though if people are having hardware issues, you can't argue that point that
they are indeed having issues.

I must say though, that your view of the OS simply looking prettier could be
further from the truth... have you used the indexing, the breadcrumb folder
navigation system, the improved audio stack, the overall snappy-ness of the
interface and the glaring lack of UI draw errors, and odd wait times to do
things such as right clicking on the desktop to pull up the alt. menu? The
navigational system, the folder views... everything has gotten a great
facelift. For one, I also like that I am alerted whenever software needs
admin rights to install... and who the heck is complaining about too many
'clicks'?? Please lol I laugh at that one... oh no, an extra click or two
when you want to install a piece of software... wooooo! =) How lazy are we,
that we'd rather not deal with extra security measures?

I could go on for hours all the little changes you overlook when you've not
actually sat and used Vista to its fullest. Besides, it looks darn pretty
anyhow you're right =) Even something as silly as the 'gadget' (I mean
widget? lol) system is a very overlooked, simple yet very useful system.

Anyways, I could go on... but for those with good-name hardware... I see no
issue, nor reason to complain. And of course, Vista is brand new. Nothing in
the software world is 100% perfect typically out-of box, especially when it
comes to an OS.

That being said... Vista is pretty darn near excellence in every manner
especially being right out of the box. Most people in business especially,
thing "better wait until the SP1" ... don't know how many times I've heard
that. Vista? For me and many others with decent systems, it just works. And
if it forces you to upgrade then good... but again nobody is forcing you!


"emanon" wrote:

>
> "Cody" <Cody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:05B3C561-B541-45AC-94C1-58798486E78E@microsoft.com...
> > Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
> > your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go
> > use
> > a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.
> >
> > I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've
> > 1)
> > probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to
> > pirate
> > a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main years
> > of
> > hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
> > quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for that
> > OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3) You
> > just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.
> >
> > Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
> > are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with
> > dated
> > hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
> > incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your
> > "right
> > here, right now" crying nonsense.
> >
> > Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get
> > lost
> > and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of
> > the
> > people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with
> > your
> > BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
> > your nether regions.
> >
> > Get real... Vista is awesome.
> >
> Define "great" and "best OS ever".
>
> I've been there with Vista and found absolutely nothing in it that was
> superior to Windows 2000. Many of the things people are raving (positively)
> about are nothing new. Voice Recognition? Integral to OS/2 Warp 3. The
> supposed new features of the Windows browser remind me a lot of what I have
> available now through Adobe bridge. Many of the other supposed "Wow!"
> features are nothing new to user of other operating systems. They are just
> new to Windows. All you're getting is prettier pictures to look at on the
> screen, nothing new really behind the scenes.
>
> I ended up reformatting and installing XP rather than ride the tide. I'm
> happier for it.
>
> Many of the things people are raving (negatively) about are far more
> significant. Hardware that needs to be replaced simply because there are no
> Vista drivers and the hardware vendors have no intention of writing the
> drivers because . . . you guessed it . . . they'd rather sell you a new
> piece of hardware rather than furnish an upgraded driver. Look through the
> posts on the Vista news groups for the horror stories people are having with
> video cards, audio cards, scanners and other related peripherals. And this
> is not even including the problems people are having listening to music they
> own or watching movies they own because of DRM glitches.
>
> Unless you are in the business of selling new hardware and software, Vista
> is a giant step backwards for too many people. But you know what? Vista will
> succeed. It's just too bad that it will succeed for all the wrong reasons.
> It will succeed because companies will stop producing hardware that will run
> on previous editions of Windows. When your printer or scanner needs
> replacing, you will be out of luck. It will succeed because application
> developers will write new programs that require Vista and not be compatible
> with previous versions of Windows. Vista will succeed because when you buy
> your next computer you will not have a choice of what operating system to
> run. Vista will not succeed because of any superiority.
>
>
>

Well here it is a question from a "non-ignorant" user:

I have a SBS 2003 R2 server; in the D HD (Data) I have a folder with several
sub-folders and hundreds of files, The entire
folder is set to be available offline as they are all the
sub-folders and files. The problem is that some of these files are not
available when I go offline.
What is weird is that in Windows Explorer all the files, including the ones
that are not available, are marked with the green round logo with the two
yellow arrows indicating that they supposedly are available.
To make things more complicated and much worse is that if I right click on a
file/ click properties/ General tab the file show the above
mentioned logo; clicking the "Offline folders" tab the "Always
available offline" option is checked so people would assume that everything
is fine but under "Details" tab the file is listed as "Offline
Availability: Not available" and this is true, the file is not available!
Note that booting with XP the same file, in the same location, same Domain
etc. is available offline therefore is something specifically related to
Vista.
Another thing I noted is that all the files "really" available under
"Details" have, in the "Attribute" line a "A", the one not available do not
have it.

Note that I do not have this issue when booting XP Pro.
Any idea?
Thanks in advance
Stefano C.

"Cody" <Cody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05B3C561-B541-45AC-94C1-58798486E78E@microsoft.com...
> Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
> your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go
> use
> a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.
>
> I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've
> 1)
> probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to
> pirate
> a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main years
> of
> hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
> quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for that
> OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3) You
> just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.
>
> Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
> are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with
> dated
> hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
> incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your
> "right
> here, right now" crying nonsense.
>
> Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get
> lost
> and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of
> the
> people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with
> your
> BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
> your nether regions.
>
> Get real... Vista is awesome.
>

"Cody" <Cody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05B3C561-B541-45AC-94C1-58798486E78E@microsoft.com...
> Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
> your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go
> use
> a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.
>
> I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've
> 1)
> probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to
> pirate
> a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main years
> of
> hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
> quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for that
> OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3) You
> just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.
>
> Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
> are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with
> dated
> hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
> incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your
> "right
> here, right now" crying nonsense.
>
> Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get
> lost
> and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of
> the
> people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with
> your
> BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
> your nether regions.
>
> Get real... Vista is awesome.
>


Moron

ss.

>All you're getting is prettier pictures to look at on the screen, nothing
>new really behind the scenes.

I have to say that is a pretty ignorant statement. Seems there you are
referring to Aero, which is not transparency. Aero has nothing to do with
making things pretty. Aero allows Windows to use your graphics card to
handle the user interface rather than your processor. If you turn off Aero,
you may notice that your computer will actually be noticeably slower.
However, by turning off Aero, I don't mean turning off transparent borders.
Those are two completely different things.

If you read the documentation, you will see that there are hundreds of new
features, both big and small. It takes a while to notice and appreciate all
those features. Read the product guide and the other documentation that
Microsoft provides, I won't list all the usefull consumer features here.

One of the major improvements of Windows Vista over Windows XP is the
improved security. The combination these new and improved features (Windows
Firewall, Internet Explorer's Protected Mode, anti-phishing filter, User
Account Control with Secure Desktop, Windows Defender, address space layout
randomization, Windows Update, Bitlocker Drive Encryption, Patchgaurd) are a
significant deterrent to spyware and viri and a significant addition to
Windows.

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/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Robert Firth *
* Windows Vista x86 RTM *
* http://www.WinVistaInfo.org *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */

"emanon" <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote in message
news:OnqEnkdVHHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Cody" <Cody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:05B3C561-B541-45AC-94C1-58798486E78E@microsoft.com...
>> Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
>> your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go
>> use
>> a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.
>>
>> I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've
>> 1)
>> probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to
>> pirate
>> a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main
>> years of
>> hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
>> quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for
>> that
>> OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3)
>> You
>> just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.
>>
>> Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
>> are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with
>> dated
>> hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
>> incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your
>> "right
>> here, right now" crying nonsense.
>>
>> Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get
>> lost
>> and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of
>> the
>> people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with
>> your
>> BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
>> your nether regions.
>>
>> Get real... Vista is awesome.
>>
> Define "great" and "best OS ever".
>
> I've been there with Vista and found absolutely nothing in it that was
> superior to Windows 2000. Many of the things people are raving
> (positively) about are nothing new. Voice Recognition? Integral to OS/2
> Warp 3. The supposed new features of the Windows browser remind me a lot
> of what I have available now through Adobe bridge. Many of the other
> supposed "Wow!" features are nothing new to user of other operating
> systems. They are just new to Windows. All you're getting is prettier
> pictures to look at on the screen, nothing new really behind the scenes.
>
> I ended up reformatting and installing XP rather than ride the tide. I'm
> happier for it.
>
> Many of the things people are raving (negatively) about are far more
> significant. Hardware that needs to be replaced simply because there are
> no Vista drivers and the hardware vendors have no intention of writing the
> drivers because . . . you guessed it . . . they'd rather sell you a new
> piece of hardware rather than furnish an upgraded driver. Look through the
> posts on the Vista news groups for the horror stories people are having
> with video cards, audio cards, scanners and other related peripherals. And
> this is not even including the problems people are having listening to
> music they own or watching movies they own because of DRM glitches.
>
> Unless you are in the business of selling new hardware and software, Vista
> is a giant step backwards for too many people. But you know what? Vista
> will succeed. It's just too bad that it will succeed for all the wrong
> reasons. It will succeed because companies will stop producing hardware
> that will run on previous editions of Windows. When your printer or
> scanner needs replacing, you will be out of luck. It will succeed because
> application developers will write new programs that require Vista and not
> be compatible with previous versions of Windows. Vista will succeed
> because when you buy your next computer you will not have a choice of what
> operating system to run. Vista will not succeed because of any
> superiority.
>

"Cody" <Cody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E5B09697-6BA2-45B6-8BCF-568696904F4B@microsoft.com...
> I must say though, that your view of the OS simply looking prettier could
> be
> further from the truth... have you used the indexing, the breadcrumb
> folder
> navigation system, the improved audio stack, the overall snappy-ness of
> the
> interface and the glaring lack of UI draw errors, and odd wait times to do
> things such as right clicking on the desktop to pull up the alt. menu? The
> navigational system, the folder views... everything has gotten a great
> facelift. For one, I also like that I am alerted whenever software needs
> admin rights to install... and who the heck is complaining about too many
> 'clicks'?? Please lol I laugh at that one... oh no, an extra click or two
> when you want to install a piece of software... wooooo! =) How lazy are
> we,
> that we'd rather not deal with extra security measures?
>
"pretty" is what MS is advertising it on. All you see in the ads is the
useless windowing feature from the Windows Key + Tab. I would not buy it
for that. Perhaps if they mention a new Aero architechture that allows
processing currently being done on an overworked CPU to be offloaded to the
GPU, more tech people would be interested.

A lot of the other built in "features" are available in XP through third
party programs, and MS finally got around to integrating them in Vista -
nothing new, like their big "wow" with IE7 that is now has tabs that have
been available in Firefox.

Software should need admin rights to install. Perhaps users would be more
secure if MS forced them to set up multiple accounts, where you need to
select a user when you initially start Windows, with Admin as one of those
users, and you have to enter a password at least for Admin. Only the Admin
user should have full admin rights. Ideally only the Admin user should be
able to install anything, and if you install as anyone else you should have
to use "run as". Alerts on install are not annoying, but if as someone said
here you have to click to allow every time you run a program, that is
annoying. The OS should prompt you when a program wants to run, but it
needs to distinguish programs that run themselves and ones the user started.

> Anyways, I could go on... but for those with good-name hardware... I see
> no
> issue, nor reason to complain. And of course, Vista is brand new. Nothing
> in
> the software world is 100% perfect typically out-of box, especially when
> it
> comes to an OS.
>
Not having tried Vista yet myself, I'd have to agree. Win2K was buggy when
it was first released. Win95 had high hardware requirements when it was
first released...

> That being said... Vista is pretty darn near excellence in every manner
> especially being right out of the box. Most people in business especially,
> thing "better wait until the SP1" ... don't know how many times I've heard
> that. Vista? For me and many others with decent systems, it just works.
> And
> if it forces you to upgrade then good... but again nobody is forcing you!
>
Most businesses will wait to load Vista because they only buy a few PCs
every year and their oldest PCs barely run XP. They don't want to install
Vista unless it works with all their hardware printers, scanners, copiers,
etc. They don't want to try Vista while they still have PCs with PII 600
processors, 128 MB RAM, and maybe 32 MB video RAM...

All this is great but the issue is still "Why can't microsoft write a new OS
that doesn't make it easier (or even possible) for people to "upgrade" their
computers without having to upgrade all their software and hardware at the
same time?" It's great for all you young folks with lots of money and
computer needs, but for those of us who just want to get better security and
move ahead it's really annoying that I can't run simple programs I've written
in VB and used for years and printers and
scanners that have years of life left on them simply because Microsoft wants
to "protect" me from the outside world. Surely I should be allowed to decide
if I want protection and simply disconnect form the internet (outside world)
if I want to use low security programs. It can't be that difficult for the
geniuses in Microsoft to accomplish this and it just makes people like me
more cynical thinking that the real reason for this "upgrade" is to separate
us from more of our money. Thank goodness Bill Gates has a very nice
charitable foudation or I would be really p......... off.

"Synapse Syndrome" wrote:

> "Cody" <Cody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:05B3C561-B541-45AC-94C1-58798486E78E@microsoft.com...
> > Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
> > your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go
> > use
> > a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.
> >
> > I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've
> > 1)
> > probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to
> > pirate
> > a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main years
> > of
> > hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
> > quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for that
> > OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3) You
> > just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.
> >
> > Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
> > are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with
> > dated
> > hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
> > incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your
> > "right
> > here, right now" crying nonsense.
> >
> > Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get
> > lost
> > and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of
> > the
> > people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with
> > your
> > BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
> > your nether regions.
> >
> > Get real... Vista is awesome.
> >
>
>
> Moron
>
> ss.
>
>

I don't care about the likes and dislikes of Windows Vista, I'm just stuck
and need some help from someone who knows about these things. My new scanner
won't work with my new laptop. Both HP. Any ideas? Downloaded driver
update and still nothing


"Cody" wrote:

> Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
> your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go use
> a "wonderful" Mac, or use Linux and see where you get.
>
> I'm sick of ignorant people bashing a great product. WHY? Because you've 1)
> probably never used it, and have heard some kid who probably tried to pirate
> a copy complain about something 2) think that YOU should obtain main years of
> hard work in the form of software - FREE (go use Linux, you'll see the
> quality of programming and level of hardware and software support for that
> OS... it has NO place on a Home Desktop system -- web server? Sure) 3) You
> just like looking for things to complain about and are afraid of change.
>
> Get over yourselves! Vista by FAR is the best OS to date, bar none. There
> are no hugely glaring issues, and hopefully IT WILL force people with dated
> hardwar eto upgrade... its good for the industry and consumer as a whole
> incase some of you cannot see the larger picture here instead of your "right
> here, right now" crying nonsense.
>
> Get with the program. Either enjoy the best OS created to date, or get lost
> and use whatever else you want. Go cry somewhere else... for the rest of the
> people also who might actually ENJOY Vista, don't ruin it for them with your
> BS and 'cause Microsoft to lose out on a sale because you're talking from
> your nether regions.
>
> Get real... Vista is awesome.
>

Jen wrote:
> I don't care about the likes and dislikes of Windows Vista, I'm just stuck
> and need some help from someone who knows about these things. My new scanner
> won't work with my new laptop. Both HP. Any ideas? Downloaded driver
> update and still nothing
>
>
> "Cody" wrote:
>
>> Wow, do you people love to complain about great products. Go ahead, stop
>> your crying if you don't like Vista. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Go use

I beg to differ. We are having Vista forced on us if we are buying a new
computer. Most new computers don't come with the option of choosing
between XP and Vista as the OS.