I think running in Single channel at the very most should only cost you
like half your performance but that's only memory speed, but that shouldn't
mean 7fps, you should still get in the neighborhood for 50fps with your
config. I don't know of a way to make a system run in Dual Channel.

I looked on the ASUS site and though I don't know which flavor of the P4P800
you have, they all are listed as being Dual Channel boards
http://usa.asus.com/search.aspx?sear...archkey=p4p800

I'll ask the obvious question, on the older boards you know you put the
memory in banks 1 &3 and not banks 1&2 right ? On the Asus boards, you
should have 2 blue slots and 2 black slots. You'll want to put them in the 2
blue slots if I remember correctly.

Something else you can do, is goto www.guru3d.com and download the SANDRA
2005 or Xl version and run the benchmarks. It will tell you how your system
compares to other systems. You can also goto www.futuremark.com and download
3dMark05 or 06 and run that benchmark and get a score and report back here,
you can also upload that score and compare it to other systems like yours
and see if there is a huge difference. the 3dmark's are mainly DX and not
OpenGL, so it won't tell you about problems with Doom3 or Quake4, but it
will let you know how your system is doing overall. So then you'll know if
it's just a Doom3 problem or a System problem.









"Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8CDA4A7A-37E8-49B0-815F-03A1B2837EEC@microsoft.com...
> yeah, i notice the single channel :\
> Ok, i've take out 2 of the sticks and let it be 1024mb. CPU-Z still tells
> me
> Single Channel and frequency of 199mhz.
> I ran Doom3 and had 7 FPS
>
> How do i put it in Dual Channel?
> And do you think that the memory is the cause of the very low FPS at
> Doom3?
>
> I'm getting very sad and frustrated
>
> "Dale M. White" wrote:
>> If you look at you memory screen it says your memory is running in Single
>> channel versus Dual channel.That will be a performance hit, though I
>> wouldn't think it would be a massive one. I'd say, take out the extra 2
>> sticks of memory and then run the Doom3 benchmarks again, also check the
>> CPU-Z to make sure channels says Dual.
>>
>>
>> "Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2E6B0245-DDFB-4FED-ACB9-BFFE435D692F@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm using ASUS P4P800, that has the Ai overclocking feature.
>> >
>> > "Bill Davis Jr" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I do not know if you mentioned it but what motherboard are you using?
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:45:00 -0800, Filipe
>> >> <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Yes i think i have the chipset drivers, i tryed to update again.
>> >> >Here is my DirectX Display:
>> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/286...displaypd5.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> >Yes. I did add an extra 512 DDR400 when i installed Vista...
>> >> >I turn the AI Overclocking to manual and the memory fields appear. I
>> >> >just
>> >> >turn memory frequency to 400mhz. After doing that, CPU-Z gave me the
>> >> >follow:
>> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/539...ryafterpd6.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> >&CPU
>> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/443...puafteron4.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> >But besides, i ran another benchmark of doom after this and it gave
>> >> >me
>> >> >FPS =
>> >> >7.8 :'(
>> >> >
>> >> >One apart thing, whenever i open the Control Panel, the windows gives
>> >> >me
>> >> >a
>> >> >"windows explorer error" and closes, do you have any idea why? This
>> >> >gave
>> >> >me
>> >> >before i did this changes.
>> >> >
>> >> >What do you think Dale?
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:52:09 -0500, "Dale \"Mad_Murdock\" White"
<dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote:


>
>I'll ask the obvious question, on the older boards you know you put the
>memory in banks 1 &3 and not banks 1&2 right ? On the Asus boards, you
>should have 2 blue slots and 2 black slots. You'll want to put them in the 2
>blue slots if I remember correctly.

Yes Dale that is correct. There are four memory banks. Banks 1 (Blue),
Bank 2 (Black), Bank 3 (Blue) and Bank 4 (Black).

You will want to install the memory sticks for Dual Channel in the
same colored slot, Bank 1 (Blue) and Bank 3 (Blue). Anything other
than that will be Single Channel. Unless you get four sticks of memory
(preferably all matched) then will revert back to Dual Channel.

my motherboard is the standard model "P4P800".
Yes i had the memorys put correctly, but i dont remember if they ever worked
in Dual channel. Because in XP i didnt need to check that, the games run fast
there.

I've made the benchmarks tests, and let me tell you, there is realy
something wrong :\ Here is the results:
sisoftware sandra-> Cpu was normal, memory is normal, altough its says that
it would be better if there were more memory to equal the processor.

3dmark06
3d mark score: 1479
SM2.0 score: 781
CPU socre: 630
And let me tell you, when i was running the bests, i was getting 6 - 9
FPS... In XP i always had good results in 3d mark, please tell me that this
can be fixed and its not just because of the Vista.


"Dale "Mad_Murdock" White" wrote:

> I think running in Single channel at the very most should only cost you
> like half your performance but that's only memory speed, but that shouldn't
> mean 7fps, you should still get in the neighborhood for 50fps with your
> config. I don't know of a way to make a system run in Dual Channel.
>
> I looked on the ASUS site and though I don't know which flavor of the P4P800
> you have, they all are listed as being Dual Channel boards
> http://usa.asus.com/search.aspx?sear...archkey=p4p800
>
> I'll ask the obvious question, on the older boards you know you put the
> memory in banks 1 &3 and not banks 1&2 right ? On the Asus boards, you
> should have 2 blue slots and 2 black slots. You'll want to put them in the 2
> blue slots if I remember correctly.
>
> Something else you can do, is goto www.guru3d.com and download the SANDRA
> 2005 or Xl version and run the benchmarks. It will tell you how your system
> compares to other systems. You can also goto www.futuremark.com and download
> 3dMark05 or 06 and run that benchmark and get a score and report back here,
> you can also upload that score and compare it to other systems like yours
> and see if there is a huge difference. the 3dmark's are mainly DX and not
> OpenGL, so it won't tell you about problems with Doom3 or Quake4, but it
> will let you know how your system is doing overall. So then you'll know if
> it's just a Doom3 problem or a System problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8CDA4A7A-37E8-49B0-815F-03A1B2837EEC@microsoft.com...
> > yeah, i notice the single channel :\
> > Ok, i've take out 2 of the sticks and let it be 1024mb. CPU-Z still tells
> > me
> > Single Channel and frequency of 199mhz.
> > I ran Doom3 and had 7 FPS
> >
> > How do i put it in Dual Channel?
> > And do you think that the memory is the cause of the very low FPS at
> > Doom3?
> >
> > I'm getting very sad and frustrated
> >
> > "Dale M. White" wrote:
> >> If you look at you memory screen it says your memory is running in Single
> >> channel versus Dual channel.That will be a performance hit, though I
> >> wouldn't think it would be a massive one. I'd say, take out the extra 2
> >> sticks of memory and then run the Doom3 benchmarks again, also check the
> >> CPU-Z to make sure channels says Dual.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2E6B0245-DDFB-4FED-ACB9-BFFE435D692F@microsoft.com...
> >> > I'm using ASUS P4P800, that has the Ai overclocking feature.
> >> >
> >> > "Bill Davis Jr" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I do not know if you mentioned it but what motherboard are you using?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:45:00 -0800, Filipe
> >> >> <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Yes i think i have the chipset drivers, i tryed to update again.
> >> >> >Here is my DirectX Display:
> >> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/286...displaypd5.jpg
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Yes. I did add an extra 512 DDR400 when i installed Vista...
> >> >> >I turn the AI Overclocking to manual and the memory fields appear. I
> >> >> >just
> >> >> >turn memory frequency to 400mhz. After doing that, CPU-Z gave me the
> >> >> >follow:
> >> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/539...ryafterpd6.jpg
> >> >> >
> >> >> >&CPU
> >> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/443...puafteron4.jpg
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But besides, i ran another benchmark of doom after this and it gave
> >> >> >me
> >> >> >FPS =
> >> >> >7.8 :'(
> >> >> >
> >> >> >One apart thing, whenever i open the Control Panel, the windows gives
> >> >> >me
> >> >> >a
> >> >> >"windows explorer error" and closes, do you have any idea why? This
> >> >> >gave
> >> >> >me
> >> >> >before i did this changes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >What do you think Dale?
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Well, I don't think it's because of Vista, but I think there is probably
something wrong with your vista install.Maybe you need to un-install your
drivers, reboot, grab a program called nasty file remover (hope it works
under Vista) and let it clean up any traces of the ATI driver., re-install
the 7.1 or 7.2 drivers and not installed the CCC.

Before you do that, you could look in the CCC and make sure that the setting
for Vsync didn't accidentally get turned on.

At the end of it all, you might be forced to format and re-install vista.


"Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:32DD8734-CCBE-4EEE-A739-7E037FE6C816@microsoft.com...
> my motherboard is the standard model "P4P800".
> Yes i had the memorys put correctly, but i dont remember if they ever
> worked
> in Dual channel. Because in XP i didnt need to check that, the games run
> fast
> there.
>
> I've made the benchmarks tests, and let me tell you, there is realy
> something wrong :\ Here is the results:
> sisoftware sandra-> Cpu was normal, memory is normal, altough its says
> that
> it would be better if there were more memory to equal the processor.
>
> 3dmark06
> 3d mark score: 1479
> SM2.0 score: 781
> CPU socre: 630
> And let me tell you, when i was running the bests, i was getting 6 - 9
> FPS... In XP i always had good results in 3d mark, please tell me that
> this
> can be fixed and its not just because of the Vista.
>
>
> "Dale "Mad_Murdock" White" wrote:
>
>> I think running in Single channel at the very most should only cost you
>> like half your performance but that's only memory speed, but that
>> shouldn't
>> mean 7fps, you should still get in the neighborhood for 50fps with your
>> config. I don't know of a way to make a system run in Dual Channel.
>>
>> I looked on the ASUS site and though I don't know which flavor of the
>> P4P800
>> you have, they all are listed as being Dual Channel boards
>> http://usa.asus.com/search.aspx?sear...archkey=p4p800
>>
>> I'll ask the obvious question, on the older boards you know you put the
>> memory in banks 1 &3 and not banks 1&2 right ? On the Asus boards, you
>> should have 2 blue slots and 2 black slots. You'll want to put them in
>> the 2
>> blue slots if I remember correctly.
>>
>> Something else you can do, is goto www.guru3d.com and download the SANDRA
>> 2005 or Xl version and run the benchmarks. It will tell you how your
>> system
>> compares to other systems. You can also goto www.futuremark.com and
>> download
>> 3dMark05 or 06 and run that benchmark and get a score and report back
>> here,
>> you can also upload that score and compare it to other systems like yours
>> and see if there is a huge difference. the 3dmark's are mainly DX and not
>> OpenGL, so it won't tell you about problems with Doom3 or Quake4, but it
>> will let you know how your system is doing overall. So then you'll know
>> if
>> it's just a Doom3 problem or a System problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:8CDA4A7A-37E8-49B0-815F-03A1B2837EEC@microsoft.com...
>> > yeah, i notice the single channel :\
>> > Ok, i've take out 2 of the sticks and let it be 1024mb. CPU-Z still
>> > tells
>> > me
>> > Single Channel and frequency of 199mhz.
>> > I ran Doom3 and had 7 FPS
>> >
>> > How do i put it in Dual Channel?
>> > And do you think that the memory is the cause of the very low FPS at
>> > Doom3?
>> >
>> > I'm getting very sad and frustrated
>> >
>> > "Dale M. White" wrote:
>> >> If you look at you memory screen it says your memory is running in
>> >> Single
>> >> channel versus Dual channel.That will be a performance hit, though I
>> >> wouldn't think it would be a massive one. I'd say, take out the extra
>> >> 2
>> >> sticks of memory and then run the Doom3 benchmarks again, also check
>> >> the
>> >> CPU-Z to make sure channels says Dual.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2E6B0245-DDFB-4FED-ACB9-BFFE435D692F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I'm using ASUS P4P800, that has the Ai overclocking feature.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Bill Davis Jr" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I do not know if you mentioned it but what motherboard are you
>> >> >> using?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:45:00 -0800, Filipe
>> >> >> <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Yes i think i have the chipset drivers, i tryed to update again.
>> >> >> >Here is my DirectX Display:
>> >> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/286...displaypd5.jpg
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Yes. I did add an extra 512 DDR400 when i installed Vista...
>> >> >> >I turn the AI Overclocking to manual and the memory fields appear.
>> >> >> >I
>> >> >> >just
>> >> >> >turn memory frequency to 400mhz. After doing that, CPU-Z gave me
>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >follow:
>> >> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/539...ryafterpd6.jpg
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >&CPU
>> >> >> >http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/443...puafteron4.jpg
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >But besides, i ran another benchmark of doom after this and it
>> >> >> >gave
>> >> >> >me
>> >> >> >FPS =
>> >> >> >7.8 :'(
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >One apart thing, whenever i open the Control Panel, the windows
>> >> >> >gives
>> >> >> >me
>> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >"windows explorer error" and closes, do you have any idea why?
>> >> >> >This
>> >> >> >gave
>> >> >> >me
>> >> >> >before i did this changes.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >What do you think Dale?
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

So, I uninstall the drivers, reboot, run Nasty File Remover in safe mode
(cause
it needs permitions the delete the files), reinstalled the 7.1 driver only.

The results were better:
Doom3 benchmark at high 800*600 = 15.6 FPS
Doom3 benchmark at medium 1024*768 = 33.5 FPS
3dmark06 at 1024*768 score = 1766

Still, very far from Windows XP. Is this the better i can do before they
release new drivers? From my experience 7.1 is much better than 7.2. So i'll
probably wait till they release 7.3 right?
Is there any thing else i can do?

Thanks for all your help Dale.


"Dale White" wrote:

> Yeah I'm the first to get it posted a gold star for me ! ! !
>
> 32bit
> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/v...n-vista32.html
>
> 64bit
> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/v...n-vista64.html
>
> Not that the ATI people need new drivers as bad as the nVidia people
>
>
>

Wish I had a answer for you, but something just seems to be out of whack.
You can wait for the 7.3s, though you know it will be close to a month
before they are released. I'm still thinking you might need a format
re-install of Vista.

"Filipe" <Filipe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E41D67FA-618E-4D46-B40D-59312142EA0F@microsoft.com...
> So, I uninstall the drivers, reboot, run Nasty File Remover in safe mode
> (cause
> it needs permitions the delete the files), reinstalled the 7.1 driver
> only.
>
> The results were better:
> Doom3 benchmark at high 800*600 = 15.6 FPS
> Doom3 benchmark at medium 1024*768 = 33.5 FPS
> 3dmark06 at 1024*768 score = 1766
>
> Still, very far from Windows XP. Is this the better i can do before they
> release new drivers? From my experience 7.1 is much better than 7.2. So
> i'll
> probably wait till they release 7.3 right?
> Is there any thing else i can do?
>
> Thanks for all your help Dale.
>
>
> "Dale White" wrote:
>
>> Yeah I'm the first to get it posted a gold star for me ! ! !
>>
>> 32bit
>> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/v...n-vista32.html
>>
>> 64bit
>> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/v...n-vista64.html
>>
>> Not that the ATI people need new drivers as bad as the nVidia people
>>
>>
>>