Vista - Vista x64 slow startup times (with lots loaded)? Testing methods to see what program(s) cause this?

Just putting this out there as a feeler for information/ideas..

My vista install is x64 RTM on a Dual Core 2 1.86ghz, 2gb ram, SATA300
C drive, with a secondary D for data (sata 300)... This runs on an
Asus P5n32-sli se Deluxe motherboard (Marvell Yukon controller for
network, as well as a secondary Nvidia controller), the video is ATI
x850 pci-e x16 (has issues with opengl applications too).

My bootup from the last bios letters to the logo in Vista is about
39seconds to as much as 1m 45 seconds (average is 59 seconds).. The
old XP sp2 used to be around 1min on average as well. I've verified
this part is normal for windows, where it will vary in load times, ie:
its not hardware problems.

>From the last bios screen through login (auto) till everything is
loaded and ready to be used takes about 3m 50 seconds on average (its
been as low as 2m 8s to as much as 4m 55 seconds.. lately its
averaging closer to 4min).

I load a bunch of stuff on startup, everything from ftp serv-u,
weatherbug, apc icon, download manager, outlook, msn messenger, daemon
tools, logmein, nod32, advanced smtp server, any IIS web server
related background loads, sql server 2005, and SmartSynch Pro.

Ive noticed when the task bar first appears, the network icon is
diabled, and stays disabled almost the whole way through until the
last few seconds of my load times.. I have tried bringing up task
manager to see what is taking so long, I think once I did manage to
find it was an svchost.exe process, which was tied in with various
services (I forget which)... I've tried disabling various hardware
components, thus far no luck on the hardware side, so I'm fairly
certain its software.

So any thoughts on tools, MS tools, etc to use to test what is going
on? I was going to use the performance tool, but I dont see an option
to have it start up on startup, you seem to only be able to just start
and stop it, which if the pc shuts off, i think it would stop. I also
may try disabling all startup items once and going through one by
one..

Thanks for any other ideas.. Sorry for the long post.

On Feb 23, 4:13 pm, "markm75" <markm...@msn.com> wrote:
> Just putting this out there as a feeler for information/ideas..
>
> My vista install is x64 RTM on a Dual Core 2 1.86ghz, 2gb ram, SATA300
> C drive, with a secondary D for data (sata 300)... This runs on an
> Asus P5n32-sli se Deluxe motherboard (Marvell Yukon controller for
> network, as well as a secondary Nvidia controller), the video is ATI
> x850 pci-e x16 (has issues with opengl applications too).
>
> My bootup from the last bios letters to the logo in Vista is about
> 39seconds to as much as 1m 45 seconds (average is 59 seconds).. The
> old XP sp2 used to be around 1min on average as well. I've verified
> this part is normal for windows, where it will vary in load times, ie:
> its not hardware problems.
>
> >From the last bios screen through login (auto) till everything is
>
> loaded and ready to be used takes about 3m 50 seconds on average (its
> been as low as 2m 8s to as much as 4m 55 seconds.. lately its
> averaging closer to 4min).
>
> I load a bunch of stuff on startup, everything from ftp serv-u,
> weatherbug, apc icon, download manager, outlook, msn messenger, daemon
> tools, logmein, nod32, advanced smtp server, any IIS web server
> related background loads, sql server 2005, and SmartSynch Pro.
>
> Ive noticed when the task bar first appears, the network icon is
> diabled, and stays disabled almost the whole way through until the
> last few seconds of my load times.. I have tried bringing up task
> manager to see what is taking so long, I think once I did manage to
> find it was an svchost.exe process, which was tied in with various
> services (I forget which)... I've tried disabling various hardware
> components, thus far no luck on the hardware side, so I'm fairly
> certain its software.
>
> So any thoughts on tools, MS tools, etc to use to test what is going
> on? I was going to use the performance tool, but I dont see an option
> to have it start up on startup, you seem to only be able to just start
> and stop it, which if the pc shuts off, i think it would stop. I also
> may try disabling all startup items once and going through one by
> one..
>
> Thanks for any other ideas.. Sorry for the long post.

I tested the msconfig settings (disabling startup items).. sure
without anything loaded i get to the desktop ready to roll in about 1m
30 seconds.. with all my startup items this jumps to 2m50s

I did notice this everytime, irregardless.. processes: svchost.exe
taking up about 50% of cpu.. with the services it is using being all
of these.. it does eventually go away:

(So if it booted in 1m 30 s.. it took another 1-2 minutes before the
cpu% would get down to normal, in particular on the svchost.exe
process and the services below):

wudfsvc (windows driver foundation)
wpdbusenum (Portable device enumerator service)
Wdisystemhost (diagnostic system host)
Uxsms (desktop window manager session manager)
Umrdpservice (Terminal services usermode port redirector)
Trkwks (Distributed link tracking client)
TabletInputService,
SysMain (superfetch),
PCASVC (Program compatiblility assistant service),
netman (Network conns)
IPbusenum (Pnp-x ip bus enumerator)
hiderv (human interface device access)
emdmgmt (readyboost)
Cscservice (offline files)
AudioEndpointbuilder (windows audio endpoint builder).

I'm wondering if any of these could be safely disabled (never
needed)...