Vista - Re: Vista Is Bad But Linux Is Horrendous!!!!

"arachnid" <none@goawayspammers.com> wrote in message
newsan.2007.02.24.17.51.07.361566@goawayspammers.com...
> Now I'm the one calling BS. Windows applications have a very long and
> well-documented history of stomping all over each other AND the OS.
Decent apps? Nope. Even IF and when they do, it's nothing a quick and easy
fix can't....well, fix!

> Deny all you want, I know it drives you crazy that we were there first.
Um...or something.

> We also beat Windows to the IA-64 and the AMD64, too. Linux users have
> been running pure 64-bit systems for *years*.
We? Who the hell are you? Please enlighten us on your development history.

> Oh, I'm sure an axe could do the job. However, userland applications
> can't because they don't have write permission for system files or for
> other applications' systemwide configuration files.
Oh really? That oes explain the MANY MANY Linux based application servers
on the market that have CONTINUAL issues and problems. These are Linux
machines that are designed to (usualy) so ONE THING and they can't even do
that right! But that doesn't negate any of the countless rock solid machine
either.

YES, you can dev in Linux and have it be an absolutely nightmare.

> No, Windows with its WPA, WGA, SPP, DRM, restrictive EULA's,
> single-machine licenses, secret API's, data lock-in, hidden source code,
> and forced upgrades, is the one that gives users FAR FEWER options.
WRONG! Even with that all, I can still "copy" music and videos. All that
means NOTHING to me or anyone with a brain to go around it.

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:10:29 -0800, Justin wrote:

> "arachnid" <none@goawayspammers.com> wrote in message
> newsan.2007.02.24.17.51.07.361566@goawayspammers.com...
>> Now I'm the one calling BS. Windows applications have a very long and
>> well-documented history of stomping all over each other AND the OS.
>
> Decent apps? Nope.

The average home user doesn't know what's "decent" and what's not - and
Windows is supposed to be written with them in mind, right?

> Even IF and when they do, it's nothing a quick and easy fix
> can't....well, fix!

And all too often an expensive fix, since most home users lack the skill
to do their own Windows repairs.

>> Deny all you want, I know it drives you crazy that we were there first.
> Um...or something.
>
>> We also beat Windows to the IA-64 and the AMD64, too. Linux users have
>> been running pure 64-bit systems for *years*.
>
> We? Who the hell are you?

Awwww, did that get under your skin just a wee little bit?

> Please enlighten us on your development history.

I've submitted bug reports and small code enhancements and have
contributed cash to FreeBSD, Vim, Icewm, Debian, and about a dozen other
projects.

>> Oh, I'm sure an axe could do the job. However, userland applications
>> can't because they don't have write permission for system files or for
>> other applications' systemwide configuration files.
>
> Oh really? That oes explain the MANY MANY Linux based application
> servers on the market that have CONTINUAL issues and problems. These
> are Linux machines that are designed to (usualy) so ONE THING and they
> can't even do that right! But that doesn't negate any of the countless
> rock solid machine either.

Please show where these supposed problems are due to Linux userland
applications tromping all over each other or the OS.

>> No, Windows with its WPA, WGA, SPP, DRM, restrictive EULA's,
>> single-machine licenses, secret API's, data lock-in, hidden source
>> code, and forced upgrades, is the one that gives users FAR FEWER
>> options.
>
> WRONG! Even with that all, I can still "copy" music and videos. All
> that means NOTHING to me or anyone with a brain to go around it.

http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT9325931427.htm

"When I switched back to Vista, I tried to play Wilco's Yankee Hotel
Foxtrot CD. Whoops! Not a single sound emerged from my speakers. After
a little investigation, I found that Vista disables media outputs that
don't incorporate DRM, when you try to play DRM protected media through
them."

There have also been people in this group complaining about many, many
other DRM-induced media difficulties. More than a few have complained
about losing entire media collections because they didn't know they had to
back up their DRM keys, too.