I don't know which version I want to buy yet. Can I buy the Home upgrade version then bypass the key and install the
Full Ultimate version and then after 30 days if I like it just pay for it through that upgrade procedure inside of
Vista?



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RScotti

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Hi,

Legal? I don't see anything legally wrong with it, it's not like you are
unwilling to pay for your license, but technically feasible is another
issue. I think what would end up happening is that you would need to
reinstall with the purchased upgrade Ultimate key. A full version key could
just be entered at the time of activation, an upgrade one has to be entered
during the installation procedure.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I don't know which version I want to buy yet. Can I buy the Home upgrade
>version then bypass the key and install the
> Full Ultimate version and then after 30 days if I like it just pay for it
> through that upgrade procedure inside of
> Vista?
>
> Have a good day,
> RScotti
>
> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
>

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:19:35 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Legal? I don't see anything legally wrong with it, it's not like you are
>unwilling to pay for your license, but technically feasible is another
>issue. I think what would end up happening is that you would need to
>reinstall with the purchased upgrade Ultimate key. A full version key could
>just be entered at the time of activation, an upgrade one has to be entered
>during the installation procedure.

Rick,
I know about the full version key but what my plan was is to use the upgrade to do a clean install of Ultimate. I saw
this somewhere you can do this by bypassing the key entry in setup and since I plan to buy this it should be legal.

As the other poster said about the one license I don't understand that since I will be buying the retail full version.

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RScotti

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Sorry I replied to fast.
I am using the Home upgrade version NOT the Ultimate upgrade to got to Full version clean install Ultimate.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:19:35 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Legal? I don't see anything legally wrong with it, it's not like you are
>unwilling to pay for your license, but technically feasible is another
>issue. I think what would end up happening is that you would need to
>reinstall with the purchased upgrade Ultimate key. A full version key could
>just be entered at the time of activation, an upgrade one has to be entered
>during the installation procedure.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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Hi,

All versions are on the disk, so that is immaterial. You either choose the
version at setup or insert the product key you have and it is determined for
you. What you heard is correct, you can clean install without the key and
then reinstall with the upgrade key. While this will work, it is a
circumvention of the upgrade license. An upgrade license is for use from
within an existing installation, and your existing license to use the
upgraded OS becomes part of it. To that end, doing as you propose would not
be in keeping with the license agreement.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Sorry I replied to fast.
> I am using the Home upgrade version NOT the Ultimate upgrade to got to
> Full version clean install Ultimate.
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:19:35 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Legal? I don't see anything legally wrong with it, it's not like you are
>>unwilling to pay for your license, but technically feasible is another
>>issue. I think what would end up happening is that you would need to
>>reinstall with the purchased upgrade Ultimate key. A full version key
>>could
>>just be entered at the time of activation, an upgrade one has to be
>>entered
>>during the installation procedure.
>
> Have a good day,
> RScotti
>
> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
>

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:38:44 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>All versions are on the disk, so that is immaterial. You either choose the
>version at setup or insert the product key you have and it is determined for
>you. What you heard is correct, you can clean install without the key and
>then reinstall with the upgrade key. While this will work, it is a
>circumvention of the upgrade license. An upgrade license is for use from
>within an existing installation, and your existing license to use the
>upgraded OS becomes part of it. To that end, doing as you propose would not
>be in keeping with the license agreement.

But I am just trying out the full version without putting in the key and I am going to buy it if I like it.
I am not trying to cheat MS of anything.
I guess I have to buy the FULL version of Home and do it that way. That should be legal?

As I said about the other poster I don't want this to be consider an OEM License & good for just one PC.
(after uninstalling it on the original PC)

Have a good day,
RScotti

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:38:44 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>All versions are on the disk, so that is immaterial. You either choose the
>version at setup or insert the product key you have and it is determined for
>you. What you heard is correct, you can clean install without the key and
>then reinstall with the upgrade key. While this will work, it is a
>circumvention of the upgrade license. An upgrade license is for use from
>within an existing installation, and your existing license to use the
>upgraded OS becomes part of it. To that end, doing as you propose would not
>be in keeping with the license agreement.

One more thing.
During the first 30 days will I be able to get updates or will the evaluation copy say not a genuine copy of Vista?

Have a good day,
RScotti

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"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:38:44 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>All versions are on the disk, so that is immaterial. You either choose the
>>version at setup or insert the product key you have and it is determined for
>>you. What you heard is correct, you can clean install without the key and
>>then reinstall with the upgrade key. While this will work, it is a
>>circumvention of the upgrade license. An upgrade license is for use from
>>within an existing installation, and your existing license to use the
>>upgraded OS becomes part of it. To that end, doing as you propose would not
>>be in keeping with the license agreement.
>
> One more thing.
> During the first 30 days will I be able to get updates or will the evaluation copy say not a
> genuine copy of Vista?

Yes, you'll get updates. You aren't "out of compliance" until your grace period
expires.

You can always give yourself more time for evaluating if needed.

Open an elevated CMD (run as administrator), type> slmgr -rearm

You can do this *three* times only, for a total of
120 days.


-Michael

Hi,

If you are purchasing the full version, then of course that is fine. Before
you do though, what is in Ultimate that is not in Home Premium that you feel
you need? This should define your purchase.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:38:44 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>All versions are on the disk, so that is immaterial. You either choose the
>>version at setup or insert the product key you have and it is determined
>>for
>>you. What you heard is correct, you can clean install without the key and
>>then reinstall with the upgrade key. While this will work, it is a
>>circumvention of the upgrade license. An upgrade license is for use from
>>within an existing installation, and your existing license to use the
>>upgraded OS becomes part of it. To that end, doing as you propose would
>>not
>>be in keeping with the license agreement.
>
> But I am just trying out the full version without putting in the key and I
> am going to buy it if I like it.
> I am not trying to cheat MS of anything.
> I guess I have to buy the FULL version of Home and do it that way. That
> should be legal?
>
> As I said about the other poster I don't want this to be consider an OEM
> License & good for just one PC.
> (after uninstalling it on the original PC)
>
> Have a good day,
> RScotti
>
> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
>

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:25:57 -0500, "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote:

>
>"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:b2a3u21d3si8e45lgg4o5ct8pl3ahm6fgj@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:38:44 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>All versions are on the disk, so that is immaterial. You either choose the
>>>version at setup or insert the product key you have and it is determined for
>>>you. What you heard is correct, you can clean install without the key and
>>>then reinstall with the upgrade key. While this will work, it is a
>>>circumvention of the upgrade license. An upgrade license is for use from
>>>within an existing installation, and your existing license to use the
>>>upgraded OS becomes part of it. To that end, doing as you propose would not
>>>be in keeping with the license agreement.
>>
>> One more thing.
>> During the first 30 days will I be able to get updates or will the evaluation copy say not a
>> genuine copy of Vista?
>
>Yes, you'll get updates. You aren't "out of compliance" until your grace period
>expires.
>
>You can always give yourself more time for evaluating if needed.
>
>Open an elevated CMD (run as administrator), type> slmgr -rearm
>
>You can do this *three* times only, for a total of
>120 days.
>
>
>-Michael
>
Thanks Michael.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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