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Vista ram capacity
  1. #1


    RScotti Guest

    Vista ram capacity

    Hi,
    There was a web page that showed the total amount of ram that you can use and I believe x86 was 4 GB
    and x64 was (128 GB for Ultimate)
    HP is saying that the max for Vista x86 is 3 GB. I know they are wrong but can't find that web site anymore.
    Can someone please give me something so I can confirm this to HP?


    Here's what they told me:

    >I would like to inform you that Windows vista X86 will support up to
    >3GB. If you install a 4GB RAM then you might have compatibility issues
    >like system freezees, startup issues. I regret that as if now there are
    >no updates or patches released by HP or microsoft to support for 4GB.
    >However, if once realesed then you will be receiving an update regarding
    >the upgrade information. These memory modules have a One-year limited
    >warranty.


    Have a good day,
    RScotti

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  2. #2


    canixs Guest

    Re: Vista ram capacity

    Some system BIOS is only recognizing 2 gig or 3 gig, it still depending on
    your bios at some degree.

    "RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:nvn3u2lcl9uve440f14tv799af33lvhap1@4ax.com...
    > Hi,
    > There was a web page that showed the total amount of ram that you can use
    > and I believe x86 was 4 GB
    > and x64 was (128 GB for Ultimate)
    > HP is saying that the max for Vista x86 is 3 GB. I know they are wrong but
    > can't find that web site anymore.
    > Can someone please give me something so I can confirm this to HP?
    >
    >
    > Here's what they told me:
    >
    >>I would like to inform you that Windows vista X86 will support up to
    >>3GB. If you install a 4GB RAM then you might have compatibility issues
    >>like system freezees, startup issues. I regret that as if now there are
    >>no updates or patches released by HP or microsoft to support for 4GB.
    >>However, if once realesed then you will be receiving an update regarding
    >>the upgrade information. These memory modules have a One-year limited
    >>warranty.

    >
    > Have a good day,
    > RScotti
    >
    > remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >



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  3. #3


    RScotti Guest

    Re: Vista ram capacity

    Yes I know that but I want the total ram that Vista Ultimate x86 can handle. I know there was a web site but can't find
    it anymore.
    There are saying it's Vista that is restricting the ram NOT their BIOS
    On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:34:50 -0600, "canixs" <canixs@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >Some system BIOS is only recognizing 2 gig or 3 gig, it still depending on
    >your bios at some degree.
    >
    >"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    >news:nvn3u2lcl9uve440f14tv799af33lvhap1@4ax.com...
    >> Hi,
    >> There was a web page that showed the total amount of ram that you can use
    >> and I believe x86 was 4 GB
    >> and x64 was (128 GB for Ultimate)
    >> HP is saying that the max for Vista x86 is 3 GB. I know they are wrong but
    >> can't find that web site anymore.
    >> Can someone please give me something so I can confirm this to HP?
    >>
    >>
    >> Here's what they told me:
    >>
    >>>I would like to inform you that Windows vista X86 will support up to
    >>>3GB. If you install a 4GB RAM then you might have compatibility issues
    >>>like system freezees, startup issues. I regret that as if now there are
    >>>no updates or patches released by HP or microsoft to support for 4GB.
    >>>However, if once realesed then you will be receiving an update regarding
    >>>the upgrade information. These memory modules have a One-year limited
    >>>warranty.

    >>
    >> Have a good day,
    >> RScotti
    >>
    >> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >>


    Have a good day,
    RScotti

    remove "nospam" in order to email me.


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  4. #4


    Nasser Dassi Guest

    Re: Vista ram capacity

    RScotti,

    The abilities of the BIOS are directly proportional to the motherboard.

    As for Windows Vista, the x86 version supports up to 4GB of RAM if AWE is
    available and configured; otherwise, it will only recognize up to 3GB if the
    BIOS and OS are configured as such. Out of the box, however, the usable
    allocation is only 2GB for Vista applications (separate from the OS, which
    also has a 2GB default-config).

    The HP rep was *not* wrong.

    If you have 64-bit hardware and install the 64-bit software, then the
    theoretical capacity is in the TB-level of memory (something like 16TB
    theoretical maximum).

    I HOPE THAT HELPS...


    "RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:gbs3u29i05m8bfsj71fc2j9bpeg5paqc47@4ax.com...
    > Yes I know that but I want the total ram that Vista Ultimate x86 can
    > handle. I know there was a web site but can't find
    > it anymore.
    > There are saying it's Vista that is restricting the ram NOT their BIOS
    > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:34:50 -0600, "canixs" <canixs@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Some system BIOS is only recognizing 2 gig or 3 gig, it still depending on
    >>your bios at some degree.
    >>
    >>"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    >>news:nvn3u2lcl9uve440f14tv799af33lvhap1@4ax.com...
    >>> Hi,
    >>> There was a web page that showed the total amount of ram that you can
    >>> use
    >>> and I believe x86 was 4 GB
    >>> and x64 was (128 GB for Ultimate)
    >>> HP is saying that the max for Vista x86 is 3 GB. I know they are wrong
    >>> but
    >>> can't find that web site anymore.
    >>> Can someone please give me something so I can confirm this to HP?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Here's what they told me:
    >>>
    >>>>I would like to inform you that Windows vista X86 will support up to
    >>>>3GB. If you install a 4GB RAM then you might have compatibility issues
    >>>>like system freezees, startup issues. I regret that as if now there are
    >>>>no updates or patches released by HP or microsoft to support for 4GB.
    >>>>However, if once realesed then you will be receiving an update regarding
    >>>>the upgrade information. These memory modules have a One-year limited
    >>>>warranty.
    >>>
    >>> Have a good day,
    >>> RScotti
    >>>
    >>> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >>>

    >
    > Have a good day,
    > RScotti
    >
    > remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >



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  5. #5


    RScotti Guest

    Re: Vista ram capacity

    Hi Nasser,
    What is AWE? I don't know what it is so I don't know if I have it.
    On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:47:16 -0500, "Nasser Dassi" <nasser.dassi@nyu.edu> wrote:

    >RScotti,
    >
    >The abilities of the BIOS are directly proportional to the motherboard.
    >
    >As for Windows Vista, the x86 version supports up to 4GB of RAM if AWE is
    >available and configured; otherwise, it will only recognize up to 3GB if the
    >BIOS and OS are configured as such. Out of the box, however, the usable
    >allocation is only 2GB for Vista applications (separate from the OS, which
    >also has a 2GB default-config).
    >
    >The HP rep was *not* wrong.
    >
    >If you have 64-bit hardware and install the 64-bit software, then the
    >theoretical capacity is in the TB-level of memory (something like 16TB
    >theoretical maximum).
    >
    >I HOPE THAT HELPS...
    >
    >
    >"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    >news:gbs3u29i05m8bfsj71fc2j9bpeg5paqc47@4ax.com...
    >> Yes I know that but I want the total ram that Vista Ultimate x86 can
    >> handle. I know there was a web site but can't find
    >> it anymore.
    >> There are saying it's Vista that is restricting the ram NOT their BIOS
    >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:34:50 -0600, "canixs" <canixs@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Some system BIOS is only recognizing 2 gig or 3 gig, it still depending on
    >>>your bios at some degree.
    >>>
    >>>"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    >>>news:nvn3u2lcl9uve440f14tv799af33lvhap1@4ax.com...
    >>>> Hi,
    >>>> There was a web page that showed the total amount of ram that you can
    >>>> use
    >>>> and I believe x86 was 4 GB
    >>>> and x64 was (128 GB for Ultimate)
    >>>> HP is saying that the max for Vista x86 is 3 GB. I know they are wrong
    >>>> but
    >>>> can't find that web site anymore.
    >>>> Can someone please give me something so I can confirm this to HP?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Here's what they told me:
    >>>>
    >>>>>I would like to inform you that Windows vista X86 will support up to
    >>>>>3GB. If you install a 4GB RAM then you might have compatibility issues
    >>>>>like system freezees, startup issues. I regret that as if now there are
    >>>>>no updates or patches released by HP or microsoft to support for 4GB.
    >>>>>However, if once realesed then you will be receiving an update regarding
    >>>>>the upgrade information. These memory modules have a One-year limited
    >>>>>warranty.
    >>>>
    >>>> Have a good day,
    >>>> RScotti
    >>>>
    >>>> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >>>>

    >>
    >> Have a good day,
    >> RScotti
    >>
    >> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >>


    Have a good day,
    RScotti

    remove "nospam" in order to email me.


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  6. #6


    Andyistic Guest

    Re: Vista ram capacity

    When the CPU is operating in 32-bit mode, it can only manage 4 GB of
    physical memory, since that's the limit of 32 bits (0xFFFFFFFF)
    Windows splits this in half: the lower 2 GB for apps, the upper 2 GB for the
    system (kernel, devices, etc.)
    There is an option to allow apps to use 3 GB and just 1 GB for the system.
    You can't have all 4 GB for apps, because there would be none for the system
    or devices.

    With 64-bit mode, the CPU can handle 4 GB * 4 GB (a huge amount) of memory.
    The actual limit for motherboards is a lot lower of course because of
    electronic restrictions, and amount of power needed to supply all that
    memory.
    Even with 128 GB of installed memory, Vista and other versions of 64-bit
    Windows will allow a lot more than 4 GB for apps, and still have some aside
    for the system.
    One of the main advantages to using 64-bit Windows is the virtual machine
    manager - they can host several sub operating systems simultaneously - each
    of them hogging up 4 GBs to themselves. You can't do that with a 32-bit
    host!

    -- Andy


    "RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:nvn3u2lcl9uve440f14tv799af33lvhap1@4ax.com...
    > Hi,
    > There was a web page that showed the total amount of ram that you can use
    > and I believe x86 was 4 GB
    > and x64 was (128 GB for Ultimate)
    > HP is saying that the max for Vista x86 is 3 GB. I know they are wrong but
    > can't find that web site anymore.
    > Can someone please give me something so I can confirm this to HP?
    >
    >
    > Here's what they told me:
    >
    >>I would like to inform you that Windows vista X86 will support up to
    >>3GB. If you install a 4GB RAM then you might have compatibility issues
    >>like system freezees, startup issues. I regret that as if now there are
    >>no updates or patches released by HP or microsoft to support for 4GB.
    >>However, if once realesed then you will be receiving an update regarding
    >>the upgrade information. These memory modules have a One-year limited
    >>warranty.

    >
    > Have a good day,
    > RScotti
    >
    > remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >




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  7. #7


    RScotti Guest

    Re: Vista ram capacity

    On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:48:22 -0800, "Andyistic" <abdyistic@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >When the CPU is operating in 32-bit mode, it can only manage 4 GB of
    >physical memory, since that's the limit of 32 bits (0xFFFFFFFF)
    >Windows splits this in half: the lower 2 GB for apps, the upper 2 GB for the
    >system (kernel, devices, etc.)
    >There is an option to allow apps to use 3 GB and just 1 GB for the system.
    >You can't have all 4 GB for apps, because there would be none for the system
    >or devices.
    >
    >With 64-bit mode, the CPU can handle 4 GB * 4 GB (a huge amount) of memory.
    >The actual limit for motherboards is a lot lower of course because of
    >electronic restrictions, and amount of power needed to supply all that
    >memory.
    >Even with 128 GB of installed memory, Vista and other versions of 64-bit
    >Windows will allow a lot more than 4 GB for apps, and still have some aside
    >for the system.
    >One of the main advantages to using 64-bit Windows is the virtual machine
    >manager - they can host several sub operating systems simultaneously - each
    >of them hogging up 4 GBs to themselves. You can't do that with a 32-bit
    >host!
    >
    > -- Andy
    >
    >
    >"RScotti" <rscotti1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
    >news:nvn3u2lcl9uve440f14tv799af33lvhap1@4ax.com...
    >> Hi,
    >> There was a web page that showed the total amount of ram that you can use
    >> and I believe x86 was 4 GB
    >> and x64 was (128 GB for Ultimate)
    >> HP is saying that the max for Vista x86 is 3 GB. I know they are wrong but
    >> can't find that web site anymore.
    >> Can someone please give me something so I can confirm this to HP?
    >>
    >>
    >> Here's what they told me:
    >>
    >>>I would like to inform you that Windows vista X86 will support up to
    >>>3GB. If you install a 4GB RAM then you might have compatibility issues
    >>>like system freezees, startup issues. I regret that as if now there are
    >>>no updates or patches released by HP or microsoft to support for 4GB.
    >>>However, if once realesed then you will be receiving an update regarding
    >>>the upgrade information. These memory modules have a One-year limited
    >>>warranty.

    >>
    >> Have a good day,
    >> RScotti
    >>
    >> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
    >>

    >

    So I guess I can only install 3 GB of memory right now? That's what I think HP is saying?
    So because of that I will wait till HP fixes the BIOS or whatever to 4 GB. I can't see only using 3 GB since
    "I can't trade in memory" it would be a waist to do 3 GB

    Have a good day,
    RScotti

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