Vista - Has Anyone Here Come From Mac OS to Vista?

I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is someone
that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what their
experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next computer is
going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion to Vista from
Mac.

Why would MAC snobs come to Vista?


"emanon" <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote in message
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> I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is
> someone that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what
> their experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next computer
> is going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion to Vista
> from Mac.
>

yeap, I come from a Mac experience system. I have been using vista for only
one week so I can not fully give an opinion, though, for now, I must say I
prefer Mac...for now....maybe in a few weeks when I get the hang of this
system I will have a different opinion....
Good luck in your search

"emanon" wrote:

> I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is someone
> that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what their
> experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next computer is
> going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion to Vista from
> Mac.
>
>
>

I used a Mac in days gone by (pre-OS X) and switched because everything I
needed to do worked better, the same, or almost as good on Windows while I
could never make that same statement the other way.

It basically came down to the realization that regardless of anything that
might be "better" on the Mac, so many things just flat didn't work
(incompatible) that it "just didn't matter".

"emanon" <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote in message
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> I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is
> someone that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what
> their experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next computer
> is going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion to Vista
> from Mac.
>

I used both Windows 2000 and Windows XP throughout my Mac OS X usage and
experience. This also included using VMware to run other Windows
predecessors for testing software, support and other reasons. I started
to run Vista when it was in Beta 2, the public beta, and now have it
installed on a non production system. I installed Windows Vista
Business 32-bit version. The installation process is better than
previous Windows installations -- I performed a clean install on a blank
hard drive. Since Vista is a much different than Windows XP, I didn't
want to endure the usual upgrade pains of drives, software, etc.

I set up Vista on my non production system while the main production
system continues to run Windows XP Pro SP2. I installed all programs
that I normally use in XP in Vista. This process took a while after
needing to install updates and upgrades to accomplish this task. After
about a month now, Vista remains lacking software that I need to use,
including a couple minor Vista drivers from manufacturers.

Based on my Vista experience, including a few others that I have been
following closely with my assistance, Vista is not really ready for
prime time when its getting installed on an existing computer. If you
are wanting to run Vista with minimum problems, buy a new computer with
Vista pre-installed and hopefully the pre-installed software is Vista
compatible too.

Ah... the Mac OS X experience... I remember... the Mac OS X experiences
differ from Windows experience. With Mac OS X, to upgrade, you just
install the latest Mac OS X version to your Mac. You don't have to
decided which of the multitude of operating system versions to install.
Mac OS X 10.1 through 10.4 will basically run on G3 and G4 Macs.
However, with Apple's change to Intel CPU's, the latest Mac OS X 10.4
and the upcoming 10.5 release will run on proprietary Mac systems
without any problems. With a Mac, Mac OS X is pre-installed and suited
for the hardware. Using a Mac is a great experience and after seeing
Vista so far, Mac OS X seems like a better choice.

Although Dell is starting to sell Linux on select Dell systems, I may
consider buying a Dell system with Linux pre-installed. I ran Linux for
some time and thereafter on-and-off. I mostly stopped due to lack of
software, but searching for software that I need is no longer an issue.
Plenty of linux programs available for what I and others do where its
just a minor to minimal learning curve to use linux daily.

There are also debatable and economical differences when it comes to
linux compared to Mac OS X, but in short, linux is free and you can
optimize linux to your hardware.

I can write a ton more about Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux, but there is
enough of that already occurring on various forums, newsgroups, etc.

At this point and seeing and using Vista, which I received for free
through a Microsoft offer, I would not have paid for Vista. I may
continue my Vista testing and possibly later use Vista on a 'Vista
Ready' computer (hopefully at a company rather than one of my own
computers), but Linux may be the 'alternative' or next operating system
I may start using on a daily basis. When I ran linux for three years,
never really had problems and seldom ever needed to restart the
computer. I remember my uptime at one time on the linux computer was
over four months.

Sorry for writing so much on your question.

The real question that you need to ask yourself, which operating system
is right for me; including what software available is available on that
platform that I would use or need to use?


On 2/26/2007 2:51 PM, emanon:
> I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is someone
> that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what their
> experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next computer is
> going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion to Vista from
> Mac.

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:53:25 -0800, paradise7 wrote:

> yeap, I come from a Mac experience system. I have been using vista for only
> one week so I can not fully give an opinion, though, for now, I must say I
> prefer Mac...for now....maybe in a few weeks when I get the hang of this
> system I will have a different opinion....
> Good luck in your search

Go buy some A list games for your Vista machine and you will soon change
your mind. Not into games, you say? Then you should have stuck with the
Mac. A PC is for hardcore fun and a Mac is for sandal wearing poofs.

You nailed it in your last parragraph. Since I just bought a new PC in
January, this is a longer range evaluation. Right now, I'm looking at
software availability of what I already have on the PC for the Mac. So far,
only one critical appliaction is not available for the Mac. Yes, I can find
a Mac replacement, but I'd much rather not face two learning curves at once:
the OS and a new app. My hand held GPS software is a minor snag as the maker
has promised an OS X comptible version in 2Q-3Q 2007. If not, I can always
run that from my laptop.

I, for one, appreciate your indepth reply. Makes it easier to evaluate than
some of the quick one liners "such-and-such is crap" that a lot of people
tend to post. If there's nothing to back up the opinion, it's not really an
opinion, is it?

"Mark" <nipperspotREMOVE@gmail-dot-com> wrote in message
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>I used both Windows 2000 and Windows XP throughout my Mac OS X usage and
>experience. This also included using VMware to run other Windows
>predecessors for testing software, support and other reasons. I started to
>run Vista when it was in Beta 2, the public beta, and now have it installed
>on a non production system. I installed Windows Vista Business 32-bit
>version. The installation process is better than previous Windows
>installations -- I performed a clean install on a blank hard drive. Since
>Vista is a much different than Windows XP, I didn't want to endure the
>usual upgrade pains of drives, software, etc.
>
> I set up Vista on my non production system while the main production
> system continues to run Windows XP Pro SP2. I installed all programs that
> I normally use in XP in Vista. This process took a while after needing to
> install updates and upgrades to accomplish this task. After about a month
> now, Vista remains lacking software that I need to use, including a couple
> minor Vista drivers from manufacturers.
>
> Based on my Vista experience, including a few others that I have been
> following closely with my assistance, Vista is not really ready for prime
> time when its getting installed on an existing computer. If you are
> wanting to run Vista with minimum problems, buy a new computer with Vista
> pre-installed and hopefully the pre-installed software is Vista compatible
> too.
>
> Ah... the Mac OS X experience... I remember... the Mac OS X experiences
> differ from Windows experience. With Mac OS X, to upgrade, you just
> install the latest Mac OS X version to your Mac. You don't have to
> decided which of the multitude of operating system versions to install.
> Mac OS X 10.1 through 10.4 will basically run on G3 and G4 Macs. However,
> with Apple's change to Intel CPU's, the latest Mac OS X 10.4 and the
> upcoming 10.5 release will run on proprietary Mac systems without any
> problems. With a Mac, Mac OS X is pre-installed and suited for the
> hardware. Using a Mac is a great experience and after seeing Vista so
> far, Mac OS X seems like a better choice.
>
> Although Dell is starting to sell Linux on select Dell systems, I may
> consider buying a Dell system with Linux pre-installed. I ran Linux for
> some time and thereafter on-and-off. I mostly stopped due to lack of
> software, but searching for software that I need is no longer an issue.
> Plenty of linux programs available for what I and others do where its just
> a minor to minimal learning curve to use linux daily.
>
> There are also debatable and economical differences when it comes to linux
> compared to Mac OS X, but in short, linux is free and you can optimize
> linux to your hardware.
>
> I can write a ton more about Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux, but there is
> enough of that already occurring on various forums, newsgroups, etc.
>
> At this point and seeing and using Vista, which I received for free
> through a Microsoft offer, I would not have paid for Vista. I may
> continue my Vista testing and possibly later use Vista on a 'Vista Ready'
> computer (hopefully at a company rather than one of my own computers), but
> Linux may be the 'alternative' or next operating system I may start using
> on a daily basis. When I ran linux for three years, never really had
> problems and seldom ever needed to restart the computer. I remember my
> uptime at one time on the linux computer was over four months.
>
> Sorry for writing so much on your question.
>
> The real question that you need to ask yourself, which operating system is
> right for me; including what software available is available on that
> platform that I would use or need to use?
>
>
> On 2/26/2007 2:51 PM, emanon:
>> I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is
>> someone that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what
>> their experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next
>> computer is going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion
>> to Vista from Mac.

"Pipboy" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:53:25 -0800, paradise7 wrote:
>
>> yeap, I come from a Mac experience system. I have been using vista for
>> only
>> one week so I can not fully give an opinion, though, for now, I must say
>> I
>> prefer Mac...for now....maybe in a few weeks when I get the hang of this
>> system I will have a different opinion....
>> Good luck in your search
>
> Go buy some A list games for your Vista machine and you will soon change
> your mind. Not into games, you say? Then you should have stuck with the
> Mac. A PC is for hardcore fun and a Mac is for sandal wearing poofs.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, Pipboy. Are you saying that no one uses
a personal computer of any type for work?

Better yet, how does your answer relate to the question? Did you come from a
Mac to Vista? That is the question.

"emanon" <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote in message
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> I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is
> someone that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what
> their experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next computer
> is going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion to Vista
> from Mac.
>

I switched to XP from a Mac notebook. I had bought the Mac notebook on the
advice of a friend who's a Mac snob. He said it just worked better, the
notebook battery life was longer, etc... For me it turned out to be bad
advice. Every time I wanted to add something it seemed I was paying three
times the rate I was on my home Windows network.The final straw was when I
decided to upgrade my dvd-rom drive to a burner. I could only find one or
two models and they had to be special ordered at $299 (at the time).
CompUSA and Best Buy had scores of burners XP compatible from $69.00.

I decided to switch to Windows XP and bought a laptop with XP Media Center
2003. I haven't looked back since. I can run pretty much any software and
I think it's crashed once on me (a long time ago). I upgraded to Vista Home
Premium the week it came out. I must say I think MS got it right with this
one, but then that's just my experience. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones.
I just got the licenses for the rest of my home network and will be
upgrading the other three machines this weekend.

HTH,

Art

On Feb 26, 7:51 pm, "emanon" <ema...@erehwon.com> wrote:
> I'm qualifying that to *here* because I'm sure *somewhere* there is someone
> that has. If there is, I'd be interested in hearing why and what their
> experience has been like. I'm trying to decide what my next computer is
> going to be, so I'd be interested in hearing about conversion to Vista from
> Mac.

I think you'll struggle to many (or any?) answering 'yes' to this.
People in general don't switch platforms on a whim; investments in
software and familiarity with what they know being the main reasons.
There usually has to be some fundamental reason to make such a
significant leap.

As such, if someone is a Mac guy, and was willing to put up with the
negatives of such up until now, then I don't really see that Vista
offers them anything more that XP didn't... barring the resource
sapping eye candy of course, which OS X isn't exactly lacking in
anyway.

You may however find a few Mac users dual booting Vista on their Intel
Macs for those minority of times when some piece of software
absolutely positively insists on it; or morbid curiosity of course.
They are probably the best placed to make a side by side comparison,
running both on the same hardware as they do. But I'd guess you'd
find them on Mac newsgroups rather than here.