Vista - I'm starting to like Vista

I've just spent the last 10 days or so bringing up my new Vaio SZ440 that
came with Vista Business installed. It's been a struggle -- I've had to
find workarounds to get a lot of my software and hardware running, and there
are still one or two things that just won't work under Vista. Some of the
problems result from incompatible drivers or software and, presumably, will
be fixed by the product manufacturers with patches or driver updates.
Others, however, are clearly Vista bugs (for example, IP stack corruption).

All of that aside, however, my laptop is now ticking like a well-oiled clock
and I find there is a lot to like about the OS. On my machine, it's
lightning fast, very smooth and, though not crash-proof, I have to work very
hard to bring it down. I'll note, though, that I've disabled UAC and
Windows Defender. The former is too much of a pain, and there are good
third-party alternatives for the latter. As soon as I can find a
Vista-compatible one, I'll replace Windows Firewall as well. I like
Gadgets -- it's nice to have weather radar on my desktop whenever I need it.

The only remaining serious bug is slow file transfers over the network. I'm
getting around that by using FTP at home, but that's like going backwards 20
years. Microsoft has to address that issue.

Also, I'm pretty good with computers and my abilities were severely taxed by
trying to find workarounds and alternative methods for getting software and
hardware to run. I can't imagine what a naive use would do -- probably give
up and buy a Mac.

I'm sure a lot of the trouble is attibutable simply to Vista being a new OS.
As it ages and more computers ship with it, it will become the standard for
hardware and software developers and everything will run fine out of the
box. For now, though, I'd discourage any early adopters from trying it
unless they're really familiar with what's going on "under the hood."

Thanks for the post! That goes in line with a lot of the findings here.

One question. What problems did you have with Defender?

Not sure why you turned off UAC...it's perfect!


"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
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> I've just spent the last 10 days or so bringing up my new Vaio SZ440 that
> came with Vista Business installed. It's been a struggle -- I've had to
> find workarounds to get a lot of my software and hardware running, and
> there are still one or two things that just won't work under Vista. Some
> of the problems result from incompatible drivers or software and,
> presumably, will be fixed by the product manufacturers with patches or
> driver updates. Others, however, are clearly Vista bugs (for example, IP
> stack corruption).
>
> All of that aside, however, my laptop is now ticking like a well-oiled
> clock and I find there is a lot to like about the OS. On my machine, it's
> lightning fast, very smooth and, though not crash-proof, I have to work
> very hard to bring it down. I'll note, though, that I've disabled UAC and
> Windows Defender. The former is too much of a pain, and there are good
> third-party alternatives for the latter. As soon as I can find a
> Vista-compatible one, I'll replace Windows Firewall as well. I like
> Gadgets -- it's nice to have weather radar on my desktop whenever I need
> it.
>
> The only remaining serious bug is slow file transfers over the network.
> I'm getting around that by using FTP at home, but that's like going
> backwards 20 years. Microsoft has to address that issue.
>
> Also, I'm pretty good with computers and my abilities were severely taxed
> by trying to find workarounds and alternative methods for getting software
> and hardware to run. I can't imagine what a naive use would do --
> probably give up and buy a Mac.
>
> I'm sure a lot of the trouble is attibutable simply to Vista being a new
> OS. As it ages and more computers ship with it, it will become the
> standard for hardware and software developers and everything will run fine
> out of the box. For now, though, I'd discourage any early adopters from
> trying it unless they're really familiar with what's going on "under the
> hood."

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:26:20 -0800, "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the post! That goes in line with a lot of the findings here.
>
>One question. What problems did you have with Defender?
>
>Not sure why you turned off UAC...it's perfect!

UAC is as "perfect" as you are Justin. :-)

There's definitely a learning curve to it. And these hardware vendors
dragging their heels on drivers...ugh!


"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
news:%23FJGlW4WHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I've just spent the last 10 days or so bringing up my new Vaio SZ440 that
> came with Vista Business installed. It's been a struggle -- I've had to
> find workarounds to get a lot of my software and hardware running, and
> there are still one or two things that just won't work under Vista. Some
> of the problems result from incompatible drivers or software and,
> presumably, will be fixed by the product manufacturers with patches or
> driver updates. Others, however, are clearly Vista bugs (for example, IP
> stack corruption).
>
> All of that aside, however, my laptop is now ticking like a well-oiled
> clock and I find there is a lot to like about the OS. On my machine, it's
> lightning fast, very smooth and, though not crash-proof, I have to work
> very hard to bring it down. I'll note, though, that I've disabled UAC and
> Windows Defender. The former is too much of a pain, and there are good
> third-party alternatives for the latter. As soon as I can find a
> Vista-compatible one, I'll replace Windows Firewall as well. I like
> Gadgets -- it's nice to have weather radar on my desktop whenever I need
> it.
>
> The only remaining serious bug is slow file transfers over the network.
> I'm getting around that by using FTP at home, but that's like going
> backwards 20 years. Microsoft has to address that issue.
>
> Also, I'm pretty good with computers and my abilities were severely taxed
> by trying to find workarounds and alternative methods for getting software
> and hardware to run. I can't imagine what a naive use would do --
> probably give up and buy a Mac.
>
> I'm sure a lot of the trouble is attibutable simply to Vista being a new
> OS. As it ages and more computers ship with it, it will become the
> standard for hardware and software developers and everything will run fine
> out of the box. For now, though, I'd discourage any early adopters from
> trying it unless they're really familiar with what's going on "under the
> hood."

Justin wrote:

> Thanks for the post! That goes in line with a lot of the findings here.
>
> One question. What problems did you have with Defender?
>
> Not sure why you turned off UAC...it's perfect!

Yea, if you never actually use the computer and only turn it on and let it
idle. =)

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"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:uwzgPg4WHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the post! That goes in line with a lot of the findings here.
>
> One question. What problems did you have with Defender?

No problems, per se. I just find it opaque and incomplete. I'm using
Grisoft AVG and Webroot SpySweeper, both of which give me more control and a
greater sense of security.


>
> Not sure why you turned off UAC...it's perfect!
>
>
> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
> news:#FJGlW4WHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I've just spent the last 10 days or so bringing up my new Vaio SZ440 that
>> came with Vista Business installed. It's been a struggle -- I've had to
>> find workarounds to get a lot of my software and hardware running, and
>> there are still one or two things that just won't work under Vista. Some
>> of the problems result from incompatible drivers or software and,
>> presumably, will be fixed by the product manufacturers with patches or
>> driver updates. Others, however, are clearly Vista bugs (for example, IP
>> stack corruption).
>>
>> All of that aside, however, my laptop is now ticking like a well-oiled
>> clock and I find there is a lot to like about the OS. On my machine,
>> it's lightning fast, very smooth and, though not crash-proof, I have to
>> work very hard to bring it down. I'll note, though, that I've disabled
>> UAC and Windows Defender. The former is too much of a pain, and there
>> are good third-party alternatives for the latter. As soon as I can find
>> a Vista-compatible one, I'll replace Windows Firewall as well. I like
>> Gadgets -- it's nice to have weather radar on my desktop whenever I need
>> it.
>>
>> The only remaining serious bug is slow file transfers over the network.
>> I'm getting around that by using FTP at home, but that's like going
>> backwards 20 years. Microsoft has to address that issue.
>>
>> Also, I'm pretty good with computers and my abilities were severely taxed
>> by trying to find workarounds and alternative methods for getting
>> software and hardware to run. I can't imagine what a naive use would
>> do -- probably give up and buy a Mac.
>>
>> I'm sure a lot of the trouble is attibutable simply to Vista being a new
>> OS. As it ages and more computers ship with it, it will become the
>> standard for hardware and software developers and everything will run
>> fine out of the box. For now, though, I'd discourage any early adopters
>> from trying it unless they're really familiar with what's going on "under
>> the hood."
>

"Stephan Rose" <kermos@somrek.net> wrote in message
news:KLmdnbjl5bY3mnvYnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Yea, if you never actually use the computer and only turn it on and let it
> idle. =)

Yup! That's about it!

No problems at all! "It Just Works"

"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
news:uJXNm34WHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No problems, per se. I just find it opaque and incomplete. I'm using
> Grisoft AVG and Webroot SpySweeper, both of which give me more control and
> a greater sense of security.

Ah. Ok then. Thanks.

I use Spy Sweeper also. Maybe in about another year Windows Defender will
come up to speed. For now, I have turned off the real time scanning and just
allow it to perform a scheduled scan. Hey! It can't hurt. (-:

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
news:uJXNm34WHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
> news:uwzgPg4WHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the post! That goes in line with a lot of the findings here.
>>
>> One question. What problems did you have with Defender?
>
> No problems, per se. I just find it opaque and incomplete. I'm using
> Grisoft AVG and Webroot SpySweeper, both of which give me more control and
> a greater sense of security.
>
>
>>
>> Not sure why you turned off UAC...it's perfect!
>>
>>
>> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
>> news:#FJGlW4WHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I've just spent the last 10 days or so bringing up my new Vaio SZ440
>>> that came with Vista Business installed. It's been a struggle -- I've
>>> had to find workarounds to get a lot of my software and hardware
>>> running, and there are still one or two things that just won't work
>>> under Vista. Some of the problems result from incompatible drivers or
>>> software and, presumably, will be fixed by the product manufacturers
>>> with patches or driver updates. Others, however, are clearly Vista bugs
>>> (for example, IP stack corruption).
>>>
>>> All of that aside, however, my laptop is now ticking like a well-oiled
>>> clock and I find there is a lot to like about the OS. On my machine,
>>> it's lightning fast, very smooth and, though not crash-proof, I have to
>>> work very hard to bring it down. I'll note, though, that I've disabled
>>> UAC and Windows Defender. The former is too much of a pain, and there
>>> are good third-party alternatives for the latter. As soon as I can find
>>> a Vista-compatible one, I'll replace Windows Firewall as well. I like
>>> Gadgets -- it's nice to have weather radar on my desktop whenever I need
>>> it.
>>>
>>> The only remaining serious bug is slow file transfers over the network.
>>> I'm getting around that by using FTP at home, but that's like going
>>> backwards 20 years. Microsoft has to address that issue.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm pretty good with computers and my abilities were severely
>>> taxed by trying to find workarounds and alternative methods for getting
>>> software and hardware to run. I can't imagine what a naive use would
>>> do -- probably give up and buy a Mac.
>>>
>>> I'm sure a lot of the trouble is attibutable simply to Vista being a new
>>> OS. As it ages and more computers ship with it, it will become the
>>> standard for hardware and software developers and everything will run
>>> fine out of the box. For now, though, I'd discourage any early adopters
>>> from trying it unless they're really familiar with what's going on
>>> "under the hood."
>>
>
>

And I use SpywareBlaster..


"PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
news:uJXNm34WHHA.4720@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
> news:uwzgPg4WHHA.4872@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the post! That goes in line with a lot of the findings here.
>>
>> One question. What problems did you have with Defender?
>
> No problems, per se. I just find it opaque and incomplete. I'm using
> Grisoft AVG and Webroot SpySweeper, both of which give me more control and
> a greater sense of security.
>
>
>>
>> Not sure why you turned off UAC...it's perfect!
>>
>>
>> "PTravel" <ptravel@travelersvideo.com> wrote in message
>> news:#FJGlW4WHHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I've just spent the last 10 days or so bringing up my new Vaio SZ440
>>> that came with Vista Business installed. It's been a struggle -- I've
>>> had to find workarounds to get a lot of my software and hardware
>>> running, and there are still one or two things that just won't work
>>> under Vista. Some of the problems result from incompatible drivers or
>>> software and, presumably, will be fixed by the product manufacturers
>>> with patches or driver updates. Others, however, are clearly Vista bugs
>>> (for example, IP stack corruption).
>>>
>>> All of that aside, however, my laptop is now ticking like a well-oiled
>>> clock and I find there is a lot to like about the OS. On my machine,
>>> it's lightning fast, very smooth and, though not crash-proof, I have to
>>> work very hard to bring it down. I'll note, though, that I've disabled
>>> UAC and Windows Defender. The former is too much of a pain, and there
>>> are good third-party alternatives for the latter. As soon as I can find
>>> a Vista-compatible one, I'll replace Windows Firewall as well. I like
>>> Gadgets -- it's nice to have weather radar on my desktop whenever I need
>>> it.
>>>
>>> The only remaining serious bug is slow file transfers over the network.
>>> I'm getting around that by using FTP at home, but that's like going
>>> backwards 20 years. Microsoft has to address that issue.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm pretty good with computers and my abilities were severely
>>> taxed by trying to find workarounds and alternative methods for getting
>>> software and hardware to run. I can't imagine what a naive use would
>>> do -- probably give up and buy a Mac.
>>>
>>> I'm sure a lot of the trouble is attibutable simply to Vista being a new
>>> OS. As it ages and more computers ship with it, it will become the
>>> standard for hardware and software developers and everything will run
>>> fine out of the box. For now, though, I'd discourage any early adopters
>>> from trying it unless they're really familiar with what's going on
>>> "under the hood."
>>
>
>

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