After spending a week and a half attempting to
upgrade my wife's system from Windows XP
Professional to Vista, I have given up,
surrendered and have returned my copy to the place
where I purchased it.
AFAI am concerned Microsoft should be sued
for wasting my time!

This is a P4 3.0ghz System with 2gb PC3200 RAM and
an Nvidia 5500FX AGP card so it's not a dog.

Problems I have had are various applications not
installing, Doom 3 runs like a slide show, the
system is sluggish and I know this is subjective
but I don't like the new interface.
My printer's tools do not work so I can't change
paper size, monitor ink and things like that.
My Audigy board stutters when playing mp3s but
seems to work with wma files which is puzzling.

Overall this has been a huge waste of money and
time for me and fortunately I have been able to
use Acronis TrueImage Home to restore Windows XP
Professional the way it was before I started this
adventure.



If this is the best Microsoft can do after 6 years
of development, then it is clear that Microsoft is
in serious trouble.
The store took the copy back no questions asked
and I don't have any special relationship with
them. They have told me that the Vista results are
mixed with the preloaded machines doing fairly
well and upgrades having troubles.
I can understand that, but seriously, what a
complete rip this Vista turned out to be.
Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
user and I find both systems to have their
advantages as well as their problems.
I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
best applications for my needs.
Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.

I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
as me try Linux.
Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
for free.
Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
to use versions of Linux and they do
far more for far less than Vista can muster.
I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
an alternative that is inexpensive.
If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
It's a little high in price, but the quality is
outstanding.

Flame away.

On Saturday 03 March 2007 21:13 Kevin Wilcox wrote:

>
> Flame away.

Why would anybody want to do that????

Count yourself lucky that you even got a refund. Many retailers will not
take back any software once the wrapper has been opened.

Also, count yourself lucky that you didn't purchase a new unit with Vista
pre-installed. A major computer retailer in my area (Columbus, Ohio) tells
customers that if their Vista machine has devices that do not work because
the device driver is not recognized by Vista (Yes, some computer
manufacturers are releasing their Vista machines with incompatible drivers),
then the customer's only option is to wait for 4 to 6 months until a new
driver is developed and released. There is no offer to exchange the Vista OS
for an XP OS - unless you are willing to pay them the full version $200
price for XP Home or the full version $300 price for XP Pro - plus
installation cost.

Unfortunately for that retailer, and for many other retailers, their shelves
are now stocked with Vista machines. Very few XP machines remain, and they
are going like hot cakes. Wonder why?

My advice is - avoid Vista.

> Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
> user and I find both systems to have their
> advantages as well as their problems.
> I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
> best applications for my needs.
> Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
> currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
> be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.
>
> I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
> as me try Linux.
> Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
> for free.
> Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
> to use versions of Linux and they do
> far more for far less than Vista can muster.
> I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
> an alternative that is inexpensive.
> If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
> turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
> It's a little high in price, but the quality is
> outstanding.
>
> Flame away.

Don't see why you should be flamed, personally not having many probs here
but others are I did a clean OEM install of Ultimate 32bit and apart from 1
or 2 minor driver issues no real problems. The thing I detest is the lack of
customisation on certain functions I.e defrag, there should be an option to
completely disable which there is not. The rig I have is a HP M7590 desktop
which is Vista Capable badged so don't know if that made a difference.

BR

Jerry

To disable defrag you just need to remove the Task from Task
Scheduler.

"Jerry" <jerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:A8DFF7A5-9CBA-4758-A4E8-4FBFCA9A73E0@microsoft.com...
>
>> Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
>> user and I find both systems to have their
>> advantages as well as their problems.
>> I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
>> best applications for my needs.
>> Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
>> currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
>> be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.
>>
>> I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
>> as me try Linux.
>> Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
>> for free.
>> Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
>> to use versions of Linux and they do
>> far more for far less than Vista can muster.
>> I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
>> an alternative that is inexpensive.
>> If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
>> turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
>> It's a little high in price, but the quality is
>> outstanding.
>>
>> Flame away.
>
> Don't see why you should be flamed, personally not having many probs here
> but others are I did a clean OEM install of Ultimate 32bit and apart from
> 1 or 2 minor driver issues no real problems. The thing I detest is the
> lack of customisation on certain functions I.e defrag, there should be an
> option to completely disable which there is not. The rig I have is a HP
> M7590 desktop which is Vista Capable badged so don't know if that made a
> difference.
>
> BR
>
> Jerry

Thanks but which task is it? can't see for looking!

"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:OIZ9a1dXHHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> To disable defrag you just need to remove the Task from Task
> Scheduler.
>
> "Jerry" <jerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:A8DFF7A5-9CBA-4758-A4E8-4FBFCA9A73E0@microsoft.com...
>>
>>> Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
>>> user and I find both systems to have their
>>> advantages as well as their problems.
>>> I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
>>> best applications for my needs.
>>> Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
>>> currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
>>> be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.
>>>
>>> I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
>>> as me try Linux.
>>> Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
>>> for free.
>>> Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
>>> to use versions of Linux and they do
>>> far more for far less than Vista can muster.
>>> I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
>>> an alternative that is inexpensive.
>>> If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
>>> turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
>>> It's a little high in price, but the quality is
>>> outstanding.
>>>
>>> Flame away.
>>
>> Don't see why you should be flamed, personally not having many probs here
>> but others are I did a clean OEM install of Ultimate 32bit and apart from
>> 1 or 2 minor driver issues no real problems. The thing I detest is the
>> lack of customisation on certain functions I.e defrag, there should be an
>> option to completely disable which there is not. The rig I have is a HP
>> M7590 desktop which is Vista Capable badged so don't know if that made a
>> difference.
>>
>> BR
>>
>> Jerry
>
>

"Kevin Wilcox" <fergus1909@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:escodo$9rp$1@aioe.org...
> After spending a week and a half attempting to
> upgrade my wife's system from Windows XP
> Professional to Vista, I have given up,
> surrendered and have returned my copy to the place
> where I purchased it.
> AFAI am concerned Microsoft should be sued
> for wasting my time!
>
> This is a P4 3.0ghz System with 2gb PC3200 RAM and
> an Nvidia 5500FX AGP card so it's not a dog.
>
> Problems I have had are various applications not
> installing, Doom 3 runs like a slide show, the
> system is sluggish and I know this is subjective
> but I don't like the new interface.
> My printer's tools do not work so I can't change
> paper size, monitor ink and things like that.
> My Audigy board stutters when playing mp3s but
> seems to work with wma files which is puzzling.
>
> Overall this has been a huge waste of money and
> time for me and fortunately I have been able to
> use Acronis TrueImage Home to restore Windows XP
> Professional the way it was before I started this
> adventure.
>
> If this is the best Microsoft can do after 6 years
> of development, then it is clear that Microsoft is
> in serious trouble.
> The store took the copy back no questions asked
> and I don't have any special relationship with
> them. They have told me that the Vista results are
> mixed with the preloaded machines doing fairly
> well and upgrades having troubles.
> I can understand that, but seriously, what a
> complete rip this Vista turned out to be.
> Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
> user and I find both systems to have their
> advantages as well as their problems.
> I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
> best applications for my needs.
> Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
> currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
> be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.
>
> I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
> as me try Linux.
> Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
> for free.
> Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
> to use versions of Linux and they do
> far more for far less than Vista can muster.
> I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
> an alternative that is inexpensive.
> If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
> turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
> It's a little high in price, but the quality is
> outstanding.
>
> Flame away.
>
>

My Nintendo Wii won't play any of my old Playstation games, so it's going
back too.

--
Jon

Control Panel ( Classic View ), Network Connections. Right Click on
the appropriate Local Area Connection. Left Click Properties. When
the details box opens you'll see the bindings ( Services/Protocols ) in
the window. Just untic/uncheck the TCP/Ipv6 binding. Apply, OK....
I use the following for Broadband throughput, very reliable results.
http://www.internetfrog.com/mypc/speedtest/

"Jerry" <jerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:6714B536-2E84-470A-8E08-DD1DB8D6EFE6@microsoft.com...
> Thanks but which task is it? can't see for looking!
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:OIZ9a1dXHHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> To disable defrag you just need to remove the Task from Task
>> Scheduler.
>>
>> "Jerry" <jerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:A8DFF7A5-9CBA-4758-A4E8-4FBFCA9A73E0@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>>> Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
>>>> user and I find both systems to have their
>>>> advantages as well as their problems.
>>>> I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
>>>> best applications for my needs.
>>>> Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
>>>> currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
>>>> be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.
>>>>
>>>> I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
>>>> as me try Linux.
>>>> Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
>>>> for free.
>>>> Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
>>>> to use versions of Linux and they do
>>>> far more for far less than Vista can muster.
>>>> I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
>>>> an alternative that is inexpensive.
>>>> If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
>>>> turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
>>>> It's a little high in price, but the quality is
>>>> outstanding.
>>>>
>>>> Flame away.
>>>
>>> Don't see why you should be flamed, personally not having many probs
>>> here but others are I did a clean OEM install of Ultimate 32bit and
>>> apart from 1 or 2 minor driver issues no real problems. The thing I
>>> detest is the lack of customisation on certain functions I.e defrag,
>>> there should be an option to completely disable which there is not. The
>>> rig I have is a HP M7590 desktop which is Vista Capable badged so don't
>>> know if that made a difference.
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>
>>
>

While taking a break from performing an interpretive dance of 'Flight of
the Bumble Bee', Jon wrote:

>
> "Kevin Wilcox" <fergus1909@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:escodo$9rp$1@aioe.org...
>> After spending a week and a half attempting to
>> upgrade my wife's system from Windows XP
>> Professional to Vista, I have given up,
>> surrendered and have returned my copy to the place
>> where I purchased it.
>> AFAI am concerned Microsoft should be sued
>> for wasting my time!
>>
>> This is a P4 3.0ghz System with 2gb PC3200 RAM and
>> an Nvidia 5500FX AGP card so it's not a dog.
>>
>> Problems I have had are various applications not
>> installing, Doom 3 runs like a slide show, the
>> system is sluggish and I know this is subjective
>> but I don't like the new interface.
>> My printer's tools do not work so I can't change
>> paper size, monitor ink and things like that.
>> My Audigy board stutters when playing mp3s but
>> seems to work with wma files which is puzzling.
>>
>> Overall this has been a huge waste of money and
>> time for me and fortunately I have been able to
>> use Acronis TrueImage Home to restore Windows XP
>> Professional the way it was before I started this
>> adventure.
>>
>> If this is the best Microsoft can do after 6 years
>> of development, then it is clear that Microsoft is
>> in serious trouble.
>> The store took the copy back no questions asked
>> and I don't have any special relationship with
>> them. They have told me that the Vista results are
>> mixed with the preloaded machines doing fairly
>> well and upgrades having troubles.
>> I can understand that, but seriously, what a
>> complete rip this Vista turned out to be.
>> Yes, I am a Linux user but I am also a Windows XP
>> user and I find both systems to have their
>> advantages as well as their problems.
>> I show allegiance to neither and use what has the
>> best applications for my needs.
>> Sometimes it's Windows, other times it's Linux but
>> currently, at least in my household, it will NEVER
>> be Vista unless Microsoft fixes it first.
>>
>> I would strongly suggest those in the same boat
>> as me try Linux.
>> Give it a chance and see how much you really do get
>> for free.
>> Ubuntu, or mepis or kUbuntu are all very easy
>> to use versions of Linux and they do
>> far more for far less than Vista can muster.
>> I'm not a Linux quack BTW, I'm simply offering
>> an alternative that is inexpensive.
>> If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
>> turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
>> It's a little high in price, but the quality is
>> outstanding.
>>
>> Flame away.
>>
>>
>
> My Nintendo Wii won't play any of my old Playstation games, so it's going
> back too.

Very bad analogy.
If you had said "My PS2 won't play any of my PSone games and therefore
it's going back" it would have made more sense.
Your analogy is more akin to "My iMac G4 won't run Vista"

--
Bobbie the Triple Killer
http://members.shaw.ca/bobbie4/index.htm

email Bobbie @ bobbie4R3MOV3TH1S@shaw.ca
remember to 'remove this'

Bobbie recently switched to Ubuntu 6.
Why? Cause he can, that's why.

"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in
news:ueW1O9dXHHA.3520@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

ve.
>> If you don't like Linux and prefer a complete
>> turnkey system, than go for an Apple and OSX.
>> It's a little high in price, but the quality is
>> outstanding.
>>
>> Flame away.
>>
>>
>
> My Nintendo Wii won't play any of my old Playstation games, so it's
> going back too.
>

That's just a plainly stupid comment.