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VISTA - Can't use HTTP Web Folders (WebDav)?

  1. #1


    Gerry Hickman Guest

    VISTA - Can't use HTTP Web Folders (WebDav)?

    Hi,

    Under Windows 2000 there was a feature called "Web Folders" that was
    installed by default. You could use it to browse a server-extended HTTP
    site as part of the Windows Shell, including copying and pasting files.

    Under VISTA I can not get this to work. I can go to "Computer", then
    right-click blank space and choose "Add Network Place". I can then enter
    a URL, after a delay it creates the shortcut, but it doesn't actually
    work, it just sits there as an empty folder. It also does not prompt me
    for my NTLM authentication. I can open the exact same site from within
    SharePoint Designer 2007, and it opens quickly, authenticates, and works
    straight away.

    I really need to get this working in the Vista Shell, as we rely heavily
    on being able to do document GET and PUT to web servers.

    Thanks for any help.

    --
    Gerry Hickman (London UK)

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  2. #2


    Frank Lesniak Guest

    RE: VISTA - Can't use HTTP Web Folders (WebDav)?

    We are having this problem as well. I am researching it now... please post if
    you have a solution!

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  3. #3


    Gerry Hickman Guest

    Re: VISTA - Can't use HTTP Web Folders (WebDav)?

    Hi Walter,

    Thank you for your reply and the URL to Arther's post. I can't install
    Office 2003, I have to use Office 2007.

    You say below that the WebDAV redirector has replaced nearly all
    functionality that used to exist in WebFolders, so why am I not able to
    add a "network place" pointing to my server-extended web site? I have
    tried at the root and at a sub-folder level. Note that I can open any
    node of this site from within SharePoint designer, so why not in Vista?

    I even tried doing NET USE P: http://myserver.mydomain.com/mySubFolder/
    and that said

    "The Command Completed successfully"

    but it didn't, because when I looked at P: it was completely empty!

    > I'm referring to Ather Haleem's this post:
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...aspx?dg=micros
    > oft.public.windows.vista.general&mid=0b380300-aee6-4d84-bfba-d13e6e9aeba9&p=
    > 1
    >
    > WebFolders will only be installed on Vista if Office 2003 is installed.
    > Having said that, there shouldn't be any need to install WebFolders since
    > the WebDAV redirector has replaced all functionality provided by the
    > WebFolders. The only thing that WebDAV redirector doesn't support (that
    > WebFolders DID support) was being able to access WebDAV servers that don't
    > support OPTIONS at their root.
    >
    > I'm currently still discussing with Ather about this issue. I'll keep you
    > posted as soon as I get updated information. Thank you for your patience
    > and understanding.
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    > Walter Wang (wawang@online.microsoft.com, remove 'online.')
    > Microsoft Online Community Support
    >
    > ==================================================
    > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
    > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
    > ==================================================
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >



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  4. #4


    Frank Lesniak Guest

    Re: VISTA - Can't use HTTP Web Folders (WebDav)?

    Gerry,

    For a URL http://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    \\intranet.foo.com\DavWWWRoot\stuff

    or for a URL https://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    \\intranet.foo.com@SSL\DavWWWRoot\stuff

    Hope that helps!
    -Frank

    "Gerry Hickman" wrote:

    > Hi Walter,
    >
    > Thank you for your reply and the URL to Arther's post. I can't install
    > Office 2003, I have to use Office 2007.
    >
    > You say below that the WebDAV redirector has replaced nearly all
    > functionality that used to exist in WebFolders, so why am I not able to
    > add a "network place" pointing to my server-extended web site? I have
    > tried at the root and at a sub-folder level. Note that I can open any
    > node of this site from within SharePoint designer, so why not in Vista?
    >
    > I even tried doing NET USE P: http://myserver.mydomain.com/mySubFolder/
    > and that said
    >
    > "The Command Completed successfully"
    >
    > but it didn't, because when I looked at P: it was completely empty!
    >
    > > I'm referring to Ather Haleem's this post:
    > >
    > > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...aspx?dg=micros
    > > oft.public.windows.vista.general&mid=0b380300-aee6-4d84-bfba-d13e6e9aeba9&p=
    > > 1
    > >
    > > WebFolders will only be installed on Vista if Office 2003 is installed.
    > > Having said that, there shouldn't be any need to install WebFolders since
    > > the WebDAV redirector has replaced all functionality provided by the
    > > WebFolders. The only thing that WebDAV redirector doesn't support (that
    > > WebFolders DID support) was being able to access WebDAV servers that don't
    > > support OPTIONS at their root.
    > >
    > > I'm currently still discussing with Ather about this issue. I'll keep you
    > > posted as soon as I get updated information. Thank you for your patience
    > > and understanding.
    > >
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > > Walter Wang (wawang@online.microsoft.com, remove 'online.')
    > > Microsoft Online Community Support
    > >
    > > ==================================================
    > > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
    > > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
    > > ==================================================
    > >
    > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > >

    >
    >
    > --
    > Gerry Hickman (London UK)
    >


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  5. #5


    Gerry Hickman Guest

    Re: VISTA - Can't use HTTP Web Folders (WebDav)?

    Hi Frank,

    Are you sure this works when you're NOT on a LAN? We need to be able to
    view web folders from remote workstations. Either way, we don't have a
    folder or vDir called DavWWWRoot on our web server.

    Frank Lesniak wrote:
    > Gerry,
    >
    > For a URL http://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    > \\intranet.foo.com\DavWWWRoot\stuff
    >
    > or for a URL https://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    > \\intranet.foo.com@SSL\DavWWWRoot\stuff
    >
    > Hope that helps!
    > -Frank
    >
    > "Gerry Hickman" wrote:
    >
    >> Hi Walter,
    >>
    >> Thank you for your reply and the URL to Arther's post. I can't install
    >> Office 2003, I have to use Office 2007.
    >>
    >> You say below that the WebDAV redirector has replaced nearly all
    >> functionality that used to exist in WebFolders, so why am I not able to
    >> add a "network place" pointing to my server-extended web site? I have
    >> tried at the root and at a sub-folder level. Note that I can open any
    >> node of this site from within SharePoint designer, so why not in Vista?
    >>
    >> I even tried doing NET USE P: http://myserver.mydomain.com/mySubFolder/
    >> and that said
    >>
    >> "The Command Completed successfully"
    >>
    >> but it didn't, because when I looked at P: it was completely empty!
    >>
    >>> I'm referring to Ather Haleem's this post:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...aspx?dg=micros
    >>> oft.public.windows.vista.general&mid=0b380300-aee6-4d84-bfba-d13e6e9aeba9&p=
    >>> 1
    >>>
    >>> WebFolders will only be installed on Vista if Office 2003 is installed.
    >>> Having said that, there shouldn't be any need to install WebFolders since
    >>> the WebDAV redirector has replaced all functionality provided by the
    >>> WebFolders. The only thing that WebDAV redirector doesn't support (that
    >>> WebFolders DID support) was being able to access WebDAV servers that don't
    >>> support OPTIONS at their root.
    >>>
    >>> I'm currently still discussing with Ather about this issue. I'll keep you
    >>> posted as soon as I get updated information. Thank you for your patience
    >>> and understanding.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Regards,
    >>> Walter Wang (wawang@online.microsoft.com, remove 'online.')
    >>> Microsoft Online Community Support
    >>>
    >>> ==================================================
    >>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
    >>> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
    >>> ==================================================
    >>>
    >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >>>

    >>
    >> --
    >> Gerry Hickman (London UK)
    >>



    --
    Gerry Hickman (London UK)

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


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    For a URL http://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    \\intranet.foo.com\DavWWWRoot\stuff

    or for a URL https://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    \\intranet.foo.com@SSL\DavWWWRoot\stuff
    where can I enter a port there? (for example for http://intranet.foo.com:8888/stuff )? Well, I tried several options, they did not work...

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  7. #7


    Hero-san From Japan Guest

    I've found the solution!

    I have been the trouble with WebDav and Vista. I think this is a bug of WebDav function on Windows Vista, but I've found the solution at least.
    Usually, Web root access (WWW) is allowed for anonymous users, so authentication level is checked on anonymous (IUSR_CompueterName). And WebDav folder is allowed for authenticated users, so authentication level is checked on anything but anonymous.
    Through my test, Windows Auth was most stable. So I recommend Windows Auth for WebDav folder. And you “must” set the same authentication level as WebDav folder for the Web root (WWW). This point is important, but sometimes unusual. May be you have to reorganize your web site, though.

    Thank you.


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  8. #8


    Hero-san From Japan Guest

    I've found the solution!

    I have been the trouble with WebDav and Vista. I think this is a bug of WebDav function on Windows Vista, but I've found the solution at least.
    Usually, Web root access (WWW) is allowed for anonymous users, so authentication level is checked on anonymous (IUSR_CompueterName). And WebDav folder is allowed for authenticated users, so authentication level is checked on anything but anonymous.
    Through my test, Windows Auth was most stable. So I recommend Windows Auth for WebDav folder. And you “must” set the same authentication level as WebDav folder for the Web root (WWW). This point is important, but sometimes unusual. May be you have to reorganize your web site, though.

    Thank you.


    EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
    http://www.eggheadcafe.com

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  9. #9


    Shivani Sharma Guest

    Re: VISTA - Can't use HTTP Web Folders (WebDav)?

    Gerry,

    The difference in functionality that affects most of our users is that
    compared to webfolders, the Vista redirector does not work equivalently when
    we do not have access to the root, and when webdav is not supported at the
    root. The root is the DavWWWRoot directory which is generally present by
    default with IIS servers. Gerry what type of server are you using?

    Could you try ensuring that the client has access to the root, and that this
    supports webdav? We send an OPTIONS request to the root generally and if that
    fails the redirector does not continue.

    Another thing to try is that the user has read access to all the resources
    higher up than the one you are accessing. So eg if you are accessig
    \\server\share1\share try enabling read access to \\server\DavWWWRoot and
    \\server\share1.

    Please let me know how the above workaround work for you.

    Thanks

    "Gerry Hickman" wrote:

    > Hi Frank,
    >
    > Are you sure this works when you're NOT on a LAN? We need to be able to
    > view web folders from remote workstations. Either way, we don't have a
    > folder or vDir called DavWWWRoot on our web server.
    >
    > Frank Lesniak wrote:
    > > Gerry,
    > >
    > > For a URL http://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    > > \\intranet.foo.com\DavWWWRoot\stuff
    > >
    > > or for a URL https://intranet.foo.com/stuff try:
    > > \\intranet.foo.com@SSL\DavWWWRoot\stuff
    > >
    > > Hope that helps!
    > > -Frank
    > >
    > > "Gerry Hickman" wrote:
    > >
    > >> Hi Walter,
    > >>
    > >> Thank you for your reply and the URL to Arther's post. I can't install
    > >> Office 2003, I have to use Office 2007.
    > >>
    > >> You say below that the WebDAV redirector has replaced nearly all
    > >> functionality that used to exist in WebFolders, so why am I not able to
    > >> add a "network place" pointing to my server-extended web site? I have
    > >> tried at the root and at a sub-folder level. Note that I can open any
    > >> node of this site from within SharePoint designer, so why not in Vista?
    > >>
    > >> I even tried doing NET USE P: http://myserver.mydomain.com/mySubFolder/
    > >> and that said
    > >>
    > >> "The Command Completed successfully"
    > >>
    > >> but it didn't, because when I looked at P: it was completely empty!
    > >>
    > >>> I'm referring to Ather Haleem's this post:
    > >>>
    > >>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...aspx?dg=micros
    > >>> oft.public.windows.vista.general&mid=0b380300-aee6-4d84-bfba-d13e6e9aeba9&p=
    > >>> 1
    > >>>
    > >>> WebFolders will only be installed on Vista if Office 2003 is installed.
    > >>> Having said that, there shouldn't be any need to install WebFolders since
    > >>> the WebDAV redirector has replaced all functionality provided by the
    > >>> WebFolders. The only thing that WebDAV redirector doesn't support (that
    > >>> WebFolders DID support) was being able to access WebDAV servers that don't
    > >>> support OPTIONS at their root.
    > >>>
    > >>> I'm currently still discussing with Ather about this issue. I'll keep you
    > >>> posted as soon as I get updated information. Thank you for your patience
    > >>> and understanding.
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> Regards,
    > >>> Walter Wang (wawang@online.microsoft.com, remove 'online.')
    > >>> Microsoft Online Community Support
    > >>>
    > >>> ==================================================
    > >>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
    > >>> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
    > >>> ==================================================
    > >>>
    > >>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Gerry Hickman (London UK)
    > >>

    >
    >
    > --
    > Gerry Hickman (London UK)
    >


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