Vista - Shutdown

Hi.

It seems to take forever for Vista to shutdown or restart on my
computer. Is there any way I can monitor the shutdown process to try to
locate the cause? FWIW I have an AMD64 x2 4200, 2GB RAM, GeForce
7900GT, 300GB HD. Vista ULT.

Mossie

Shutdown is long than XP... Can you define "forever"?

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"Mossie" <mo55ie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi.
>
> It seems to take forever for Vista to shutdown or restart on my computer.
> Is there any way I can monitor the shutdown process to try to locate the
> cause? FWIW I have an AMD64 x2 4200, 2GB RAM, GeForce 7900GT, 300GB HD.
> Vista ULT.
>
> Mossie

PC Tech Solutions wrote:
> Shutdown is long than XP... Can you define "forever"?
>
> PC Tech Solutions
> http://pctech-solutions.com
>
>
By forever, up to 20 minutes, sometimes won't shut down at all have to
switch off power at mains.

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:55:26 +0000, Mossie <mo55ie@hotmail.com> wrote:

>PC Tech Solutions wrote:
>> Shutdown is long than XP... Can you define "forever"?
>>
>> PC Tech Solutions
>> http://pctech-solutions.com
>>
>>
>By forever, up to 20 minutes, sometimes won't shut down at all have to
>switch off power at mains.

Could be some application didn't clear its link to the Registry,
Windows waits for it to do so, of course it rarely does, so it won't
shut down since it thinks some application or process is still
running. If you waited long enough in XP you sometimes got a window
confirming something was running and that Windows was waiting on it.

One thing you can try if this keeps happening. Assuming you already
shut down all your applications manually before your shut down
Windows. If not, you're suppose to do that, not have Windows shut them
down. Now just before you actually try to shut down, go to Task
Manager (Ctrl-Atl-Del) and see if anything is running in the processes
tab other than system stuff. If so, that's likely the application
causing Windows to hang.

Not surprising to me or anybody not blinded by Microsoft loyalty under
XP I would sometimes try to play a vid in Media Player. It would
refuse, showing the ususal can't find CODEC message. I usually would
just ignore it, shut Media Player down and play the file on something
else. What happened was Media Player held a link to the Registry open,
so when I tired to shut down Windows some process that controlled it,
forget the name would still be running. Because of it was Windows
wouldn't shut down.

It got frustrating, since the last thing I do when I'm ready to call
it quits for a evening is shut down Windows, then the monitor. Then I
wait to hear the drive spin down before leaving the room and sometimes
don't hear it, knowing the drive is still running, because I can hear
it, so I flip the monitor back on and see (several minutes passed)
that what I just mentioned earlier was now noticed by Windows and I
had to try to shut it down manually, then finally Windows would
shutdown.

You can monitor your shutdown speeds and see what is causing the problem by
doing the following:
1. Open Event Viewer
2. In the left plane go to Applications and Services
Logs>Microsoft>Windows>Diagnostics-Performance.
3. Click on the Operational log shown, and in the center of the screen you
will see a range of events.
4. Typically there will be items with the Task Category 'Boot Performance
Monitor' or 'Shutdown Performance Monitor' (Event IDs around 100 or 200).
Click on the more recent of these to see details.
5. In the details box the precise startup time (Boot Duration) or shutdown
time (Shutdown Duration) is shown in milliseconds (ms), which you can divide
by 100 to get seconds. You should be able to see which particular program or
driver may be slowing down the shutdown.

Also you can customize your shutdown speeds. By default Vista waits for some
running services to end for 20 seconds as shown in the STRING below.
However you can edit this to a lower amount, such as 4000 to speed up the
shutdown speed. Note however that often services may be doing necessary
tasks and terminating them sooner may cause problems, so I recommend caution
in lowering this too much. Try a value of 10000 to start with and see what
impact it has.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control]

WaitToKillServiceTimeout=20000
"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:55:26 +0000, Mossie <mo55ie@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>PC Tech Solutions wrote:
>>> Shutdown is long than XP... Can you define "forever"?
>>>
>>> PC Tech Solutions
>>> http://pctech-solutions.com
>>>
>>>
>>By forever, up to 20 minutes, sometimes won't shut down at all have to
>>switch off power at mains.
>
> Could be some application didn't clear its link to the Registry,
> Windows waits for it to do so, of course it rarely does, so it won't
> shut down since it thinks some application or process is still
> running. If you waited long enough in XP you sometimes got a window
> confirming something was running and that Windows was waiting on it.
>
> One thing you can try if this keeps happening. Assuming you already
> shut down all your applications manually before your shut down
> Windows. If not, you're suppose to do that, not have Windows shut them
> down. Now just before you actually try to shut down, go to Task
> Manager (Ctrl-Atl-Del) and see if anything is running in the processes
> tab other than system stuff. If so, that's likely the application
> causing Windows to hang.
>
> Not surprising to me or anybody not blinded by Microsoft loyalty under
> XP I would sometimes try to play a vid in Media Player. It would
> refuse, showing the ususal can't find CODEC message. I usually would
> just ignore it, shut Media Player down and play the file on something
> else. What happened was Media Player held a link to the Registry open,
> so when I tired to shut down Windows some process that controlled it,
> forget the name would still be running. Because of it was Windows
> wouldn't shut down.
>
> It got frustrating, since the last thing I do when I'm ready to call
> it quits for a evening is shut down Windows, then the monitor. Then I
> wait to hear the drive spin down before leaving the room and sometimes
> don't hear it, knowing the drive is still running, because I can hear
> it, so I flip the monitor back on and see (several minutes passed)
> that what I just mentioned earlier was now noticed by Windows and I
> had to try to shut it down manually, then finally Windows would
> shutdown.
>
>