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Old 03-07-2007   #1 (permalink)
Elven


 
 

dreamscene

hey dream tooks a lot of cpu usage. it takes 60% on my pentium 4 506 2.66ghz
cpu.
my pc is vista capable . but cant understand this problem. my graphice
adapter is ATI X200 series 256mb. all other thinks run awesome like aero,
media center etc. will some budy suggest me what to do?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-07-2007   #2 (permalink)
C.Skaggs


 
 

Re: dreamscene

Your card is pretty much the bottom of the line as far as 3d capable cards
go with Areo. I have exactly the same card in my laptop, and while it's
acceptable (for a lappy) I wouldn't have one in my desktop.
Aero is probably taxing your card to the point where it offloads the rest of
the 3d decoding operations to the CPU and you are then seeing the high cpu
load.
The amount of memory on a card has a point of diminishing returns, with a
card like the x200 and the x300, 256 megs is just a waste. it can't process
fast enough to use that amount of memory effectivly. Without going into
great detail about pixel piplines and shaders, just suffice it to say that
your card is barely suitable.
In Geforce terms, your card is about equal to a geforce fx 5200


"Elven" <Elven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:96B91473-D3CB-4154-810B-FF41838F8C9B@microsoft.com...
> hey dream tooks a lot of cpu usage. it takes 60% on my pentium 4 506
> 2.66ghz
> cpu.
> my pc is vista capable . but cant understand this problem. my graphice
> adapter is ATI X200 series 256mb. all other thinks run awesome like aero,
> media center etc. will some budy suggest me what to do?


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-07-2007   #3 (permalink)
Brendan Tierney


 
 

Re: dreamscene

I am looking to upgrade my geforce 5200 principally for video editing
purposes. Could you make a suggestion please?
"C.Skaggs" <fishyfool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:365868D2-8498-425B-94A1-A2DB051726FC@microsoft.com...
> Your card is pretty much the bottom of the line as far as 3d capable cards
> go with Areo. I have exactly the same card in my laptop, and while it's
> acceptable (for a lappy) I wouldn't have one in my desktop.
> Aero is probably taxing your card to the point where it offloads the rest
> of the 3d decoding operations to the CPU and you are then seeing the high
> cpu load.
> The amount of memory on a card has a point of diminishing returns, with a
> card like the x200 and the x300, 256 megs is just a waste. it can't
> process fast enough to use that amount of memory effectivly. Without going
> into great detail about pixel piplines and shaders, just suffice it to say
> that your card is barely suitable.
> In Geforce terms, your card is about equal to a geforce fx 5200
>
>
> "Elven" <Elven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:96B91473-D3CB-4154-810B-FF41838F8C9B@microsoft.com...
>> hey dream tooks a lot of cpu usage. it takes 60% on my pentium 4 506
>> 2.66ghz
>> cpu.
>> my pc is vista capable . but cant understand this problem. my graphice
>> adapter is ATI X200 series 256mb. all other thinks run awesome like aero,
>> media center etc. will some budy suggest me what to do?

>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-07-2007   #4 (permalink)
C.Skaggs


 
 

Re: dreamscene

Video editing is a CPU intensive task, not a GPU intensive task.
So, the answer to your question is simple, whichever card you are happy
with, and can afford.
I'd personally point you to an nVidia based solution. In particular, the
8800 gts 320 meg if you have a pci-e slot.
you don't need the rendering capabilities, but with Vista and directx 10
and aero, all the rendering is off loaded to the DX10 capable card leaving
the CPU to focus on whatever tasked assigned to it.
Don't confuse rendering with editing, they are two totally seperate
functions.

"Brendan Tierney" <bunkoman@iolfree.ie> wrote in message
news:5EA018A7-95F5-4B32-A948-064FC8E9AAAB@microsoft.com...
>I am looking to upgrade my geforce 5200 principally for video editing
>purposes. Could you make a suggestion please?
> "C.Skaggs" <fishyfool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:365868D2-8498-425B-94A1-A2DB051726FC@microsoft.com...
>> Your card is pretty much the bottom of the line as far as 3d capable
>> cards go with Areo. I have exactly the same card in my laptop, and while
>> it's acceptable (for a lappy) I wouldn't have one in my desktop.
>> Aero is probably taxing your card to the point where it offloads the rest
>> of the 3d decoding operations to the CPU and you are then seeing the high
>> cpu load.
>> The amount of memory on a card has a point of diminishing returns, with a
>> card like the x200 and the x300, 256 megs is just a waste. it can't
>> process fast enough to use that amount of memory effectivly. Without
>> going into great detail about pixel piplines and shaders, just suffice it
>> to say that your card is barely suitable.
>> In Geforce terms, your card is about equal to a geforce fx 5200
>>
>>
>> "Elven" <Elven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:96B91473-D3CB-4154-810B-FF41838F8C9B@microsoft.com...
>>> hey dream tooks a lot of cpu usage. it takes 60% on my pentium 4 506
>>> 2.66ghz
>>> cpu.
>>> my pc is vista capable . but cant understand this problem. my graphice
>>> adapter is ATI X200 series 256mb. all other thinks run awesome like
>>> aero,
>>> media center etc. will some budy suggest me what to do?

>>

>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-07-2007   #5 (permalink)
Jan Hyde


 
 

Re: dreamscene

Elven <Elven@discussions.microsoft.com>'s wild thoughts were
released on Wed, 7 Mar 2007 04:01:19 -0800 bearing the
following fruit:

>hey dream tooks a lot of cpu usage. it takes 60% on my pentium 4 506 2.66ghz
>cpu.
>my pc is vista capable . but cant understand this problem. my graphice
>adapter is ATI X200 series 256mb. all other thinks run awesome like aero,
>media center etc. will some budy suggest me what to do?


I have the same issue but I've yet to see it cause any
problems. I've not seen any slowdown in the use of my PC.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-07-2007   #6 (permalink)
Brendan Tierney


 
 

Re: dreamscene

Thanks to C.Skaggs.
As you can see I'm no computer-geek. All considered (like cost etc) would
you think I have anything to gain by going your suggested route?

"C.Skaggs" <fishyfool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2EE087D0-2A5B-4D42-AB60-48A5FFC2DC5F@microsoft.com...
> Video editing is a CPU intensive task, not a GPU intensive task.
> So, the answer to your question is simple, whichever card you are happy
> with, and can afford.
> I'd personally point you to an nVidia based solution. In particular, the
> 8800 gts 320 meg if you have a pci-e slot.
> you don't need the rendering capabilities, but with Vista and directx 10
> and aero, all the rendering is off loaded to the DX10 capable card leaving
> the CPU to focus on whatever tasked assigned to it.
> Don't confuse rendering with editing, they are two totally seperate
> functions.
>
> "Brendan Tierney" <bunkoman@iolfree.ie> wrote in message
> news:5EA018A7-95F5-4B32-A948-064FC8E9AAAB@microsoft.com...
>>I am looking to upgrade my geforce 5200 principally for video editing
>>purposes. Could you make a suggestion please?
>> "C.Skaggs" <fishyfool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:365868D2-8498-425B-94A1-A2DB051726FC@microsoft.com...
>>> Your card is pretty much the bottom of the line as far as 3d capable
>>> cards go with Areo. I have exactly the same card in my laptop, and while
>>> it's acceptable (for a lappy) I wouldn't have one in my desktop.
>>> Aero is probably taxing your card to the point where it offloads the
>>> rest of the 3d decoding operations to the CPU and you are then seeing
>>> the high cpu load.
>>> The amount of memory on a card has a point of diminishing returns, with
>>> a card like the x200 and the x300, 256 megs is just a waste. it can't
>>> process fast enough to use that amount of memory effectivly. Without
>>> going into great detail about pixel piplines and shaders, just suffice
>>> it to say that your card is barely suitable.
>>> In Geforce terms, your card is about equal to a geforce fx 5200
>>>
>>>
>>> "Elven" <Elven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:96B91473-D3CB-4154-810B-FF41838F8C9B@microsoft.com...
>>>> hey dream tooks a lot of cpu usage. it takes 60% on my pentium 4 506
>>>> 2.66ghz
>>>> cpu.
>>>> my pc is vista capable . but cant understand this problem. my graphice
>>>> adapter is ATI X200 series 256mb. all other thinks run awesome like
>>>> aero,
>>>> media center etc. will some budy suggest me what to do?
>>>

>>

>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-07-2007   #7 (permalink)
C.Skaggs


 
 

Re: dreamscene

Personally, I wouldn't upgrade a box with AGP, only pci-express. AGP is
dead.
So if you have a pci-e slot, by all means, upgrade. if you don't have a
pci-e slot, it's time for a new computer.
Things to consider; dual core CPU's handles video processing much better
than single core CPU's. Pick a brand, the dual core offerings from both AMD
and Intel are a vast improvement over the old single core's for almost
everything.
PCI-E is twice as fast as AGP for graphics. PCI-E cards are also cheaper
than AGP cards.


"Brendan Tierney" <bunkoman@iolfree.ie> wrote in message
news:6D6F667B-1DAD-4CD4-B766-80D17A4F5A02@microsoft.com...
> Thanks to C.Skaggs.
> As you can see I'm no computer-geek. All considered (like cost etc) would
> you think I have anything to gain by going your suggested route?
>
> "C.Skaggs" <fishyfool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2EE087D0-2A5B-4D42-AB60-48A5FFC2DC5F@microsoft.com...
>> Video editing is a CPU intensive task, not a GPU intensive task.
>> So, the answer to your question is simple, whichever card you are happy
>> with, and can afford.
>> I'd personally point you to an nVidia based solution. In particular, the
>> 8800 gts 320 meg if you have a pci-e slot.
>> you don't need the rendering capabilities, but with Vista and directx 10
>> and aero, all the rendering is off loaded to the DX10 capable card
>> leaving the CPU to focus on whatever tasked assigned to it.
>> Don't confuse rendering with editing, they are two totally seperate
>> functions.
>>
>> "Brendan Tierney" <bunkoman@iolfree.ie> wrote in message
>> news:5EA018A7-95F5-4B32-A948-064FC8E9AAAB@microsoft.com...
>>>I am looking to upgrade my geforce 5200 principally for video editing
>>>purposes. Could you make a suggestion please?
>>> "C.Skaggs" <fishyfool@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:365868D2-8498-425B-94A1-A2DB051726FC@microsoft.com...
>>>> Your card is pretty much the bottom of the line as far as 3d capable
>>>> cards go with Areo. I have exactly the same card in my laptop, and
>>>> while it's acceptable (for a lappy) I wouldn't have one in my desktop.
>>>> Aero is probably taxing your card to the point where it offloads the
>>>> rest of the 3d decoding operations to the CPU and you are then seeing
>>>> the high cpu load.
>>>> The amount of memory on a card has a point of diminishing returns, with
>>>> a card like the x200 and the x300, 256 megs is just a waste. it can't
>>>> process fast enough to use that amount of memory effectivly. Without
>>>> going into great detail about pixel piplines and shaders, just suffice
>>>> it to say that your card is barely suitable.
>>>> In Geforce terms, your card is about equal to a geforce fx 5200
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elven" <Elven@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:96B91473-D3CB-4154-810B-FF41838F8C9B@microsoft.com...
>>>>> hey dream tooks a lot of cpu usage. it takes 60% on my pentium 4 506
>>>>> 2.66ghz
>>>>> cpu.
>>>>> my pc is vista capable . but cant understand this problem. my graphice
>>>>> adapter is ATI X200 series 256mb. all other thinks run awesome like
>>>>> aero,
>>>>> media center etc. will some budy suggest me what to do?
>>>>
>>>

>>

>


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