Vista - No Virtual PC for Vista Home Premium

I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed. I
have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of hundreds of
dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows XP
running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is no
such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I get the
privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a version
which will run Virtual PC.

I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop. I'm
not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC to fix
compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least, Virtual PC
should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
without losing their previous software investment and without necessitating a
huge additional cash outlay.


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Did you try downloading and running Virtual PC from Microsoft? From what I
understand Virtual PC will run on any version of Vista. Even with it
installed you still need a licensed copy of the OS (say xp?) for each
virtual machine you intend to run.

Jeff


"Bob Beauchaine" <Bob Beauchaine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed. I
> have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of hundreds
> of
> dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows XP
> running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is no
> such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I get
> the
> privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
> necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a
> version
> which will run Virtual PC.
>
> I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop.
> I'm
> not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC to
> fix
> compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least, Virtual
> PC
> should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
> without losing their previous software investment and without
> necessitating a
> huge additional cash outlay.
>
>
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> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

"Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
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> Did you try downloading and running Virtual PC from Microsoft? From what
> I understand Virtual PC will run on any version of Vista. Even with it
> installed you still need a licensed copy of the OS (say xp?) for each
> virtual machine you intend to run.
>
> Jeff
>

Jeff,

Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 has the following system requirements
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pc/sysreq.mspx
Host operating system: Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise,
Windows Vista Ultimate, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP Tablet PC
Edition

So the original poster may not use this product.

--
Mike Brannigan

"Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
news:95795526-EE14-483F-88AB-FD6AA877F5FD@microsoft.com...
> Did you try downloading and running Virtual PC from Microsoft? From what
> I understand Virtual PC will run on any version of Vista. Even with it
> installed you still need a licensed copy of the OS (say xp?) for each
> virtual machine you intend to run.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> "Bob Beauchaine" <Bob Beauchaine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:754B05D3-F0E2-427D-B847-CCB349974CA6@microsoft.com...
>>I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed. I
>> have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of hundreds
>> of
>> dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows
>> XP
>> running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is
>> no
>> such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I get
>> the
>> privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
>> necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a
>> version
>> which will run Virtual PC.
>>
>> I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop.
>> I'm
>> not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC to
>> fix
>> compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least, Virtual
>> PC
>> should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
>> without losing their previous software investment and without
>> necessitating a
>> huge additional cash outlay.
>>
>>
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>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>

Do you know happen to know the reason they limited what versions it can run
on?

Jeff


"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
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> "Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
> news:95795526-EE14-483F-88AB-FD6AA877F5FD@microsoft.com...
>> Did you try downloading and running Virtual PC from Microsoft? From what
>> I understand Virtual PC will run on any version of Vista. Even with it
>> installed you still need a licensed copy of the OS (say xp?) for each
>> virtual machine you intend to run.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 has the following system requirements
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pc/sysreq.mspx
> Host operating system: Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise,
> Windows Vista Ultimate, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP Tablet PC
> Edition
>
> So the original poster may not use this product.
>
> --
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
> news:95795526-EE14-483F-88AB-FD6AA877F5FD@microsoft.com...
>> Did you try downloading and running Virtual PC from Microsoft? From what
>> I understand Virtual PC will run on any version of Vista. Even with it
>> installed you still need a licensed copy of the OS (say xp?) for each
>> virtual machine you intend to run.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> "Bob Beauchaine" <Bob Beauchaine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:754B05D3-F0E2-427D-B847-CCB349974CA6@microsoft.com...
>>>I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed.
>>>I
>>> have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of
>>> hundreds of
>>> dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows
>>> XP
>>> running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is
>>> no
>>> such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I get
>>> the
>>> privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
>>> necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a
>>> version
>>> which will run Virtual PC.
>>>
>>> I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop.
>>> I'm
>>> not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC
>>> to fix
>>> compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least, Virtual
>>> PC
>>> should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
>>> without losing their previous software investment and without
>>> necessitating a
>>> huge additional cash outlay.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>>> "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>> this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>>
>

"Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
news:553D265B-B352-41EE-9796-05D594F44A0A@microsoft.com...
> Do you know happen to know the reason they limited what versions it can
> run on?
>
> Jeff
>

Only those products allow the installation of that product in a Virtual
Machine environment (look at the end of the EULA where there are specifics
about VM use of the operating systems covered by name).
So this limit on running Virtual PC removes ambiguity where some users would
install it on Home Premium and then think they can install Home Premium as a
VM.
It is also a "free" product so can be seen as a value add to the higher end
products and was originally going to be bundled with Enterprise Edition,
but time lines did not match up and "Virtual PC Express" was canned.
There is nothing to stop the original poster using other VM products such as
those from VMWare.
It should also be noted that the previous originally charged for product
Virtual PC 2004 also did not run on Home system only Windows XP Professional
and its supersets
--
Mike Brannigan

"Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
news:553D265B-B352-41EE-9796-05D594F44A0A@microsoft.com...
> Do you know happen to know the reason they limited what versions it can
> run on?
>
> Jeff
>
>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:35FA7772-F96C-4CC9-A356-C5CF7E3D0CD5@microsoft.com...
>> "Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
>> news:95795526-EE14-483F-88AB-FD6AA877F5FD@microsoft.com...
>>> Did you try downloading and running Virtual PC from Microsoft? From
>>> what I understand Virtual PC will run on any version of Vista. Even
>>> with it installed you still need a licensed copy of the OS (say xp?) for
>>> each virtual machine you intend to run.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 has the following system requirements
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...pc/sysreq.mspx
>> Host operating system: Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise,
>> Windows Vista Ultimate, Windows XP Professional, or Windows XP Tablet PC
>> Edition
>>
>> So the original poster may not use this product.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Brannigan
>>
>> "Jeffrey S. Sparks" <jssparks@spam.bccinfo.com> wrote in message
>> news:95795526-EE14-483F-88AB-FD6AA877F5FD@microsoft.com...
>>> Did you try downloading and running Virtual PC from Microsoft? From
>>> what I understand Virtual PC will run on any version of Vista. Even
>>> with it installed you still need a licensed copy of the OS (say xp?) for
>>> each virtual machine you intend to run.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bob Beauchaine" <Bob Beauchaine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:754B05D3-F0E2-427D-B847-CCB349974CA6@microsoft.com...
>>>>I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed.
>>>>I
>>>> have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of
>>>> hundreds of
>>>> dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows
>>>> XP
>>>> running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is
>>>> no
>>>> such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I
>>>> get the
>>>> privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
>>>> necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a
>>>> version
>>>> which will run Virtual PC.
>>>>
>>>> I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop.
>>>> I'm
>>>> not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC
>>>> to fix
>>>> compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least,
>>>> Virtual PC
>>>> should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
>>>> without losing their previous software investment and without
>>>> necessitating a
>>>> huge additional cash outlay.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------
>>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>>>> "I
>>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>>> this
>>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>>> then
>>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>>
>>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>>>
>>
>

if you got a REAL DVD for vista with your computer, consider running XP as host then install VPC then install vista into VPC.

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

"Bob Beauchaine" <Bob Beauchaine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:754B05D3-F0E2-427D-B847-CCB349974CA6@microsoft.com...
I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed. I
have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of hundreds of
dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows XP
running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is no
such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I get the
privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a version
which will run Virtual PC.

I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop. I'm
not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC to fix
compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least, Virtual PC
should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
without losing their previous software investment and without necessitating a
huge additional cash outlay.


----------------
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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

The problem with that scenario is you don't get all the goodies like Aero.

Jeff

"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message news:OJWht2NYHHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
if you got a REAL DVD for vista with your computer, consider running XP as host then install VPC then install vista into VPC.

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

"Bob Beauchaine" <Bob Beauchaine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:754B05D3-F0E2-427D-B847-CCB349974CA6@microsoft.com...
I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed. I
have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of hundreds of
dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows XP
running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is no
such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I get the
privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a version
which will run Virtual PC.

I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop. I'm
not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC to fix
compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least, Virtual PC
should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
without losing their previous software investment and without necessitating a
huge additional cash outlay.


----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
news:OJWht2NYHHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>if you got a REAL DVD for vista with your computer, consider running XP as
>host then install VPC then install vista into VPC.


In addition to Jeff's point - you may also NOT run Windows Vista Home
Premium in a VM as per the EULA.
4. Use with Virtualization Technologies. You may not use the software
installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated)
hardware system.

--
Mike Brannigan



"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
news:OJWht2NYHHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
if you got a REAL DVD for vista with your computer, consider running XP as
host then install VPC then install vista into VPC.

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com
"Bob Beauchaine" <Bob Beauchaine@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:754B05D3-F0E2-427D-B847-CCB349974CA6@microsoft.com...
I picked up a new laptop from HP with Vista Home Premium pre-installed. I
have found the new OS compatibility issues with my investment of hundreds of
dollars in software to be a huge problem, so I considered using Windows XP
running in a Virtual PC to handle those situations. Turns out there is no
such product. To get to run software which I rely on, not only do I get the
privilege of purchasing another copy of XP (which I would do out of
necessity), I also have to pay $160 to upgrade my copy of Vista to a version
which will run Virtual PC.

I did not realistically have a choice in the OS installed on my laptop. I'm
not willing to pay for three versions of a Microsoft OS on a single PC to
fix
compatibility issues introduced by the same. At the very least, Virtual PC
should run on Vista Home Premium to allow people to transition to Vista
without losing their previous software investment and without necessitating
a
huge additional cash outlay.


----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
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> "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:OJWht2NYHHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>if you got a REAL DVD for vista with your computer, consider running XP as host then install
>>VPC then install vista into VPC.
>
>
> In addition to Jeff's point - you may also NOT run Windows Vista Home Premium in a VM as per
> the EULA.
> 4. Use with Virtualization Technologies. You may not use the software installed on the
> licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system.

That is just so fuktarded.


-Michael

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:8F4758A1-6460-4176-BD4C-3FAF779E36C1@microsoft.com...
>> "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:OJWht2NYHHA.4440@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>if you got a REAL DVD for vista with your computer, consider running XP
>>>as host then install VPC then install vista into VPC.
>>
>>
>> In addition to Jeff's point - you may also NOT run Windows Vista Home
>> Premium in a VM as per the EULA.
>> 4. Use with Virtualization Technologies. You may not use the software
>> installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated)
>> hardware system.
>
> That is just so fuktarded.
>
>
> -Michael
>

If you do wish to run a version of Windows Vista in a VM then you can use
one of the none Home user focused SKUs such as Ultimate.

--
Mike Brannigan