Vista - Re: Disarming UAC

UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.

It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.

Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to the
wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
ALREADY have in XP Pro?

What have sophisticated users experienced?

Thanks.

DSH

you can turn of uac by going to - control panel\user accounts - switch uac
on/off.
i found it a pain too - like u need to ask permission to use your own pc!!

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

> UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
> mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
>
> It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
>
> Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to the
> wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
> ALREADY have in XP Pro?
>
> What have sophisticated users experienced?
>
> Thanks.
>
> DSH
>
>
>

if you do not like it and find it so cumbersome to use then why are you still using it.
just enjoy whining.

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:uWvIHSQYHHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.

It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.

Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to the
wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
ALREADY have in XP Pro?

What have sophisticated users experienced?

Thanks.

DSH

XP Pro didn't have User Access Control Features. Admins were Admins. I am not
too impressed with the way Microsoft is still trying to protect us from
ourselves. It is one thing to set security on Home versions but Admins
should have full Control Access on Buisness. I will definitely be testing the
Take Ownership and resetting all permissions to Full Control for Admins.

Cheers,
Lara

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

> UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
> mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
>
> It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
>
> Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to the
> wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
> ALREADY have in XP Pro?
>
> What have sophisticated users experienced?
>
> Thanks.
>
> DSH
>
>
>

"lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C08FA759-2263-4C44-B593-EF911B48A1DF@microsoft.com...

> XP Pro didn't have User Access Control Features.

It did, they just weren't give a fancy acronym.

>Admins were Admins.

That's the way I prefer it.

> I am not too impressed with the way Microsoft is still
> trying to protect us from ourselves.

Neither am I -- but MS is trying to protect the non-attentive doofuses from
themselves and from blaming MS.

> It is one thing to set security on Home versions but Admins
> should have full Control Access on Business. I will definitely be testing
> the Take Ownership and resetting all permissions to Full Control
> for Admins.

BINGO!

Cheers,

DSH

> Cheers,

> Lara
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" wrote:
>
>> UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
>> mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
>>
>> It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
>>
>> Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to
>> the wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control
>> features we ALREADY have in XP Pro?
>>
>> What have sophisticated users experienced?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> DSH

God, you're an idiot. Go and reset all permissions, enjoy yourself.

Most would just turn off UAC.

But yoy are going to fix something you have no understanding of. Idiot.


"lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C08FA759-2263-4C44-B593-EF911B48A1DF@microsoft.com...
> XP Pro didn't have User Access Control Features. Admins were Admins. I am
> not
> too impressed with the way Microsoft is still trying to protect us from
> ourselves. It is one thing to set security on Home versions but Admins
> should have full Control Access on Buisness. I will definitely be testing
> the
> Take Ownership and resetting all permissions to Full Control for Admins.
>
> Cheers,
> Lara
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" wrote:
>
>> UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
>> mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
>>
>> It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
>>
>> Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to
>> the
>> wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
>> ALREADY have in XP Pro?
>>
>> What have sophisticated users experienced?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> DSH
>>
>>
>>

microsoft is not trying to protect you from yourself.
but from the possibility of outside influence in the form of virus/trojan or other kinds of mal ware.
its unfortunate no way has been found to tell the difference from keyboard operations and programs operations.


mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

"lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C08FA759-2263-4C44-B593-EF911B48A1DF@microsoft.com...
XP Pro didn't have User Access Control Features. Admins were Admins. I am not
too impressed with the way Microsoft is still trying to protect us from
ourselves. It is one thing to set security on Home versions but Admins
should have full Control Access on Buisness. I will definitely be testing the
Take Ownership and resetting all permissions to Full Control for Admins.

Cheers,
Lara

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote:

> UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
> mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
>
> It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
>
> Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to the
> wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
> ALREADY have in XP Pro?
>
> What have sophisticated users experienced?
>
> Thanks.
>
> DSH
>
>
>

20 years 40 hours a week of working indepth with MS and MacIntosh OS' gives
me a pretty good understanding ;-).

What I don't have an understanding of is why you bother posting at all if
you have nothing to contribute but name calling?

Lara

"." wrote:

> God, you're an idiot. Go and reset all permissions, enjoy yourself.
>
> Most would just turn off UAC.
>
> But yoy are going to fix something you have no understanding of. Idiot.
>
>
> "lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C08FA759-2263-4C44-B593-EF911B48A1DF@microsoft.com...
> > XP Pro didn't have User Access Control Features. Admins were Admins. I am
> > not
> > too impressed with the way Microsoft is still trying to protect us from
> > ourselves. It is one thing to set security on Home versions but Admins
> > should have full Control Access on Buisness. I will definitely be testing
> > the
> > Take Ownership and resetting all permissions to Full Control for Admins.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lara
> >
> > "D. Spencer Hines" wrote:
> >
> >> UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
> >> mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
> >>
> >> It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
> >>
> >> Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to
> >> the
> >> wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
> >> ALREADY have in XP Pro?
> >>
> >> What have sophisticated users experienced?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> DSH
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Hi,

I have been a network admin for 20 years. Have yet to be infected at home or
at work and I have run every OS from Dos to Vista. Any Network Admin worth
his salt knows how to secure a network properly without being locked out of
his own machine. I have had far more problems trying to turn of Microsoft's
securities so I can actually do my job. Eg. When XP came out with the "are
you sure you want to run this file - tick here" it completely disabled all my
remote install software because I had to logon and click the annoying box. No
way to turn it off even with a registry hack.

There are anti-virus' offered free from almost every service provider out
there and even the most basic users know to install one. If not once bitten
they will learn the hard way.

Again - Home use makes sense. However, in a business an administrator
should be an administrator with full access period.

Cheers,,
Lara

"mikeyhsd" wrote:

> microsoft is not trying to protect you from yourself.
> but from the possibility of outside influence in the form of virus/trojan or other kinds of mal ware.
> its unfortunate no way has been found to tell the difference from keyboard operations and programs operations.
>
>
> mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com
>
> "lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C08FA759-2263-4C44-B593-EF911B48A1DF@microsoft.com...
> XP Pro didn't have User Access Control Features. Admins were Admins. I am not
> too impressed with the way Microsoft is still trying to protect us from
> ourselves. It is one thing to set security on Home versions but Admins
> should have full Control Access on Buisness. I will definitely be testing the
> Take Ownership and resetting all permissions to Full Control for Admins.
>
> Cheers,
> Lara
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" wrote:
>
> > UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
> > mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
> >
> > It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
> >
> > Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to the
> > wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
> > ALREADY have in XP Pro?
> >
> > What have sophisticated users experienced?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > DSH
> >
> >
> >

that's why we have so many businesses with web bots spewing forth junk.
the it pros sure know what they are doing.

mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

"lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BE157849-283C-45DE-8E6B-8ED3403C78B6@microsoft.com...
Hi,

I have been a network admin for 20 years. Have yet to be infected at home or
at work and I have run every OS from Dos to Vista. Any Network Admin worth
his salt knows how to secure a network properly without being locked out of
his own machine. I have had far more problems trying to turn of Microsoft's
securities so I can actually do my job. Eg. When XP came out with the "are
you sure you want to run this file - tick here" it completely disabled all my
remote install software because I had to logon and click the annoying box. No
way to turn it off even with a registry hack.

There are anti-virus' offered free from almost every service provider out
there and even the most basic users know to install one. If not once bitten
they will learn the hard way.

Again - Home use makes sense. However, in a business an administrator
should be an administrator with full access period.

Cheers,,
Lara

"mikeyhsd" wrote:

> microsoft is not trying to protect you from yourself.
> but from the possibility of outside influence in the form of virus/trojan or other kinds of mal ware.
> its unfortunate no way has been found to tell the difference from keyboard operations and programs operations.
>
>
> mikeyhsd@sport.rr.commikeyhsd@sport.rr.com
>
> "lforbes" <lforbes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C08FA759-2263-4C44-B593-EF911B48A1DF@microsoft.com...
> XP Pro didn't have User Access Control Features. Admins were Admins. I am not
> too impressed with the way Microsoft is still trying to protect us from
> ourselves. It is one thing to set security on Home versions but Admins
> should have full Control Access on Buisness. I will definitely be testing the
> Take Ownership and resetting all permissions to Full Control for Admins.
>
> Cheers,
> Lara
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" wrote:
>
> > UAC, from all accounts here, seems to be worse than having three
> > mothers-in-law on one's neck all the time.
> >
> > It seems to be the "Can't Do" Feature Writ Large.
> >
> > Can it just be disarmed and told to go stand in the corner with face to the
> > wall -- while STILL maintaining ALL the User Access Control features we
> > ALREADY have in XP Pro?
> >
> > What have sophisticated users experienced?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > DSH
> >
> >
> >