Vista - XP Pro SP2, Vista & Vienna -- A Useful Progression?

Microsoft Vienna may well be worth the wait, if it is indeed as radical a
redesign as this indicates:
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Windows Vienna - opening a new generation of operating systems

September 7, 2006

In the past 20 years, the Microsoft Windows operating system has accumulated
old code libraries that brought it to the size it has today, 2.5 GB and
about 50 million lines of code (Windows Vista).

These old code libraries consume resources and are often the targets of
security exploits.

The best way to avoid such problems, is to start from scratch, which is
close to what Microsoft plans to do with Windows Vienna.

Windows Vienna will represent the start of a different generation of
operating systems, bringing in new concepts and support for new types of
hardware, along with a better security and a modular approach, which will
allow future versions of Windows to be built more easily on Windows Vienna's
engine.

It is also likely that the future success of Microsoft's products will be
strongly decided by the success of the new generation operating system.

<http://www.windowsvienna.com/>
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STARTING FROM SCRATCH...

Sounds Quite Sensible...

Waiting for Vienna, if one can, sounds increasingly attractive.

XP Pro SP2 is a sweet OS.

Vista may turn out to be as transient and inconsequential as Millennium --
IF we can have Vienna in 2009.

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New, But Associated Subject:

I agree with Jerry, "HEMI-Powered" [what's your moniker mean, Jerry?], that
I will NEVER leave any of my machines alone at night -- or any other time --
to do a DEFRAG or a DISK IMAGE or a WINDOWS or AV UPDATE -- all by ITSELF.

So, this silly-buggers business of "scheduling a weekly backup/download at
3AM" is absurd.

I also will never allow the cursed AUTOMATIC UPDATES on any of my
machines -- even for my Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs and Windows
Update -- which would love to put IE7 on all my machines if I let it --
because MS insists IE7 is a "CRITICAL UPDATE".

Baloney et Twaddle!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Most companies that start again from scratch go broke.

Perhaps Microsoft will build new technologies into Vienna like they built
virtualisation and search into Vista - hold on, they were in 2000 and XP
too.

So look at features you already have then get ready to upgrade so you will
use them. Because the evidence is if MS doesn't say it's a feature noone
will use it.

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:evFmdxcYHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft Vienna may well be worth the wait, if it is indeed as radical a
> redesign as this indicates:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Windows Vienna - opening a new generation of operating systems
>
> September 7, 2006
>
> In the past 20 years, the Microsoft Windows operating system has
> accumulated
> old code libraries that brought it to the size it has today, 2.5 GB and
> about 50 million lines of code (Windows Vista).
>
> These old code libraries consume resources and are often the targets of
> security exploits.
>
> The best way to avoid such problems, is to start from scratch, which is
> close to what Microsoft plans to do with Windows Vienna.
>
> Windows Vienna will represent the start of a different generation of
> operating systems, bringing in new concepts and support for new types of
> hardware, along with a better security and a modular approach, which will
> allow future versions of Windows to be built more easily on Windows
> Vienna's
> engine.
>
> It is also likely that the future success of Microsoft's products will be
> strongly decided by the success of the new generation operating system.
>
> <http://www.windowsvienna.com/>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> STARTING FROM SCRATCH...
>
> Sounds Quite Sensible...
>
> Waiting for Vienna, if one can, sounds increasingly attractive.
>
> XP Pro SP2 is a sweet OS.
>
> Vista may turn out to be as transient and inconsequential as Millennium --
> IF we can have Vienna in 2009.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> New, But Associated Subject:
>
> I agree with Jerry, "HEMI-Powered" [what's your moniker mean, Jerry?],
> that
> I will NEVER leave any of my machines alone at night -- or any other
> time --
> to do a DEFRAG or a DISK IMAGE or a WINDOWS or AV UPDATE -- all by ITSELF.
>
> So, this silly-buggers business of "scheduling a weekly backup/download at
> 3AM" is absurd.
>
> I also will never allow the cursed AUTOMATIC UPDATES on any of my
> machines -- even for my Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs and Windows
> Update -- which would love to put IE7 on all my machines if I let it --
> because MS insists IE7 is a "CRITICAL UPDATE".
>
> Baloney et Twaddle!
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>

You have a valid point. Why on earth would you want to schedule a defrag &
backup overnight when you can sit there & watch it in real-time.
I'm so glad I read your post, I'll cancel all my maintenace schedules so I
can watch it myself.
Won't need to renew my cable subscription now i'll be too busy watching
defrag to bother with 24.


"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:evFmdxcYHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> New, But Associated Subject:
>
> I agree with Jerry, "HEMI-Powered" [what's your moniker mean, Jerry?],
> that
> I will NEVER leave any of my machines alone at night -- or any other
> time --
> to do a DEFRAG or a DISK IMAGE or a WINDOWS or AV UPDATE -- all by ITSELF.
>
> So, this silly-buggers business of "scheduling a weekly backup/download at
> 3AM" is absurd.
>
> I also will never allow the cursed AUTOMATIC UPDATES on any of my
> machines -- even for my Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs and Windows
> Update -- which would love to put IE7 on all my machines if I let it --
> because MS insists IE7 is a "CRITICAL UPDATE".
>
> Baloney et Twaddle!
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>

Who gives a Rats ass about the next Microsoft disaster when the current
disaster is still new.

Maybe we should call FEMA in to help with the victims


"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:evFmdxcYHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Microsoft Vienna may well be worth the wait, if it is indeed as radical a
> redesign as this indicates:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Windows Vienna - opening a new generation of operating systems
>
> September 7, 2006
>
> In the past 20 years, the Microsoft Windows operating system has
> accumulated
> old code libraries that brought it to the size it has today, 2.5 GB and
> about 50 million lines of code (Windows Vista).
>
> These old code libraries consume resources and are often the targets of
> security exploits.
>
> The best way to avoid such problems, is to start from scratch, which is
> close to what Microsoft plans to do with Windows Vienna.
>
> Windows Vienna will represent the start of a different generation of
> operating systems, bringing in new concepts and support for new types of
> hardware, along with a better security and a modular approach, which will
> allow future versions of Windows to be built more easily on Windows
> Vienna's
> engine.
>
> It is also likely that the future success of Microsoft's products will be
> strongly decided by the success of the new generation operating system.
>
> <http://www.windowsvienna.com/>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> STARTING FROM SCRATCH...
>
> Sounds Quite Sensible...
>
> Waiting for Vienna, if one can, sounds increasingly attractive.
>
> XP Pro SP2 is a sweet OS.
>
> Vista may turn out to be as transient and inconsequential as Millennium --
> IF we can have Vienna in 2009.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> New, But Associated Subject:
>
> I agree with Jerry, "HEMI-Powered" [what's your moniker mean, Jerry?],
> that
> I will NEVER leave any of my machines alone at night -- or any other
> time --
> to do a DEFRAG or a DISK IMAGE or a WINDOWS or AV UPDATE -- all by ITSELF.
>
> So, this silly-buggers business of "scheduling a weekly backup/download at
> 3AM" is absurd.
>
> I also will never allow the cursed AUTOMATIC UPDATES on any of my
> machines -- even for my Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs and Windows
> Update -- which would love to put IE7 on all my machines if I let it --
> because MS insists IE7 is a "CRITICAL UPDATE".
>
> Baloney et Twaddle!
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>

Today, D. Spencer Hines made these interesting comments ...

Spence, I do have to politely ask you to soften a bit, this IS an
XP NG, not a speculative blog for MS future products. If I had
waited for simple 4-function calculators to be what I wanted, I
would still be waiting, the same as I would still be waiting for
my first car to be all that I want it to be and none of the
things I want it not to be.

> Microsoft Vienna may well be worth the wait, if it is indeed
> as radical a redesign as this indicates:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Windows Vienna - opening a new generation of operating systems
>
> September 7, 2006
>
> In the past 20 years, the Microsoft Windows operating system
> has accumulated old code libraries that brought it to the size
> it has today, 2.5 GB and about 50 million lines of code
> (Windows Vista).
>
> These old code libraries consume resources and are often the
> targets of security exploits.
>
> The best way to avoid such problems, is to start from scratch,
> which is close to what Microsoft plans to do with Windows
> Vienna.
>
> Windows Vienna will represent the start of a different
> generation of operating systems, bringing in new concepts and
> support for new types of hardware, along with a better
> security and a modular approach, which will allow future
> versions of Windows to be built more easily on Windows
> Vienna's engine.
>
> It is also likely that the future success of Microsoft's
> products will be strongly decided by the success of the new
> generation operating system.
>
> <http://www.windowsvienna.com/>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> STARTING FROM SCRATCH...
>
> Sounds Quite Sensible...
>
> Waiting for Vienna, if one can, sounds increasingly
> attractive.
>
> XP Pro SP2 is a sweet OS.
>
> Vista may turn out to be as transient and inconsequential as
> Millennium -- IF we can have Vienna in 2009.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> New, But Associated Subject:
>
> I agree with Jerry, "HEMI-Powered" [what's your moniker mean,
> Jerry?], that I will NEVER leave any of my machines alone at
> night -- or any other time -- to do a DEFRAG or a DISK IMAGE
> or a WINDOWS or AV UPDATE -- all by ITSELF.

I used to be All Things Mopar but changed last summer. It simply
means I have a 2006 Dodge Charger R/T with the 5.7L HEMI in it,
and have always loved the Chrysler hemispherical engines all the
way back to the 1951 FirePower. No sinnister stuff, I promise!

> So, this silly-buggers business of "scheduling a weekly
> backup/download at 3AM" is absurd.
>
> I also will never allow the cursed AUTOMATIC UPDATES on any of
> my machines -- even for my Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs
> and Windows Update -- which would love to put IE7 on all my
> machines if I let it -- because MS insists IE7 is a "CRITICAL
> UPDATE".
>
> Baloney et Twaddle!
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>
>
>



--
HP, aka Jerry

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
news:Xns98EDB8B3834F7ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
> I used to be All Things Mopar but changed last summer. It simply
> means I have a 2006 Dodge Charger R/T with the 5.7L HEMI in it,
> and have always loved the Chrysler hemispherical engines all the
> way back to the 1951 FirePower. No sinnister stuff, I promise!

What!?!?! You didn't buy Charger Ultimate? I mean...the Charger SRT8?

Hum...it took MS 5+ years to chisel out a new wheel. What's going to happen
when they try to make a whole new wheel?


<.> wrote in message news:uwB4m4cYHHA.2320@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Most companies that start again from scratch go broke.
>
> Perhaps Microsoft will build new technologies into Vienna like they built
> virtualisation and search into Vista - hold on, they were in 2000 and XP
> too.
>
> So look at features you already have then get ready to upgrade so you will
> use them. Because the evidence is if MS doesn't say it's a feature noone
> will use it.
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:evFmdxcYHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Microsoft Vienna may well be worth the wait, if it is indeed as radical a
>> redesign as this indicates:
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Windows Vienna - opening a new generation of operating systems
>>
>> September 7, 2006
>>
>> In the past 20 years, the Microsoft Windows operating system has
>> accumulated
>> old code libraries that brought it to the size it has today, 2.5 GB and
>> about 50 million lines of code (Windows Vista).
>>
>> These old code libraries consume resources and are often the targets of
>> security exploits.
>>
>> The best way to avoid such problems, is to start from scratch, which is
>> close to what Microsoft plans to do with Windows Vienna.
>>
>> Windows Vienna will represent the start of a different generation of
>> operating systems, bringing in new concepts and support for new types of
>> hardware, along with a better security and a modular approach, which will
>> allow future versions of Windows to be built more easily on Windows
>> Vienna's
>> engine.
>>
>> It is also likely that the future success of Microsoft's products will be
>> strongly decided by the success of the new generation operating system.
>>
>> <http://www.windowsvienna.com/>
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> STARTING FROM SCRATCH...
>>
>> Sounds Quite Sensible...
>>
>> Waiting for Vienna, if one can, sounds increasingly attractive.
>>
>> XP Pro SP2 is a sweet OS.
>>
>> Vista may turn out to be as transient and inconsequential as
>> Millennium -- IF we can have Vienna in 2009.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> New, But Associated Subject:
>>
>> I agree with Jerry, "HEMI-Powered" [what's your moniker mean, Jerry?],
>> that
>> I will NEVER leave any of my machines alone at night -- or any other
>> time --
>> to do a DEFRAG or a DISK IMAGE or a WINDOWS or AV UPDATE -- all by
>> ITSELF.
>>
>> So, this silly-buggers business of "scheduling a weekly backup/download
>> at
>> 3AM" is absurd.
>>
>> I also will never allow the cursed AUTOMATIC UPDATES on any of my
>> machines -- even for my Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs and Windows
>> Update -- which would love to put IE7 on all my machines if I let it --
>> because MS insists IE7 is a "CRITICAL UPDATE".
>>
>> Baloney et Twaddle!
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>
>

Defrag and Backup on the machine I'm currently using take all of 30 minutes.

I initiate, control and monitor those processes.

I certainly don't sit there and watch the screen all the time.

DSH

Why would he not want to schedule a defrag and backup overnight? Easy... Can
you say "paranoid malcontent?"

Lang

"Richard" <noemail@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
news:qO%Hh.50096$3a3.40163@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> You have a valid point. Why on earth would you want to schedule a defrag
> & backup overnight when you can sit there & watch it in real-time.
> I'm so glad I read your post, I'll cancel all my maintenace schedules so I
> can watch it myself.
> Won't need to renew my cable subscription now i'll be too busy watching
> defrag to bother with 24.
>
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:evFmdxcYHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> New, But Associated Subject:
>>
>> I agree with Jerry, "HEMI-Powered" [what's your moniker mean, Jerry?],
>> that
>> I will NEVER leave any of my machines alone at night -- or any other
>> time --
>> to do a DEFRAG or a DISK IMAGE or a WINDOWS or AV UPDATE -- all by
>> ITSELF.
>>
>> So, this silly-buggers business of "scheduling a weekly backup/download
>> at
>> 3AM" is absurd.
>>
>> I also will never allow the cursed AUTOMATIC UPDATES on any of my
>> machines -- even for my Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware programs and Windows
>> Update -- which would love to put IE7 on all my machines if I let it --
>> because MS insists IE7 is a "CRITICAL UPDATE".
>>
>> Baloney et Twaddle!
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>
>

How do you monitor it if you don't watch the screen :-)
Being paranoid enough to not schedule unattended maintenance is ridiculous.
BTW it helps if you quote text you are replying to.

"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ozlt63eYHHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Defrag and Backup on the machine I'm currently using take all of 30
> minutes.
>
> I initiate, control and monitor those processes.
>
> I certainly don't sit there and watch the screen all the time.

>> You have a valid point. Why on earth would you want to schedule a defrag
>> & backup overnight when you can sit there & watch it in real-time.
>> I'm so glad I read your post, I'll cancel all my maintenace schedules so
>> I can watch it myself.
>> Won't need to renew my cable subscription now i'll be too busy watching
>> defrag to bother with 24