Vista - File names size limit?

Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like to
give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like to know
the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server 2003 if
better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole
path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file names would
be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
Any info?
Thanks!
Alejandro.

Windows XP allows file names upto 255 characters in length while Windows
Vista allows filenames containing upto 260 characters


"Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e16%23xyzYHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like to
> give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like to
> know the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server 2003 if
> better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole
> path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
> file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file names would
> be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
> Any info?
> Thanks!
> Alejandro.
>

It is still 256 characters (255?) if I remember correctly. It is still based
on NTFS.

WinFS is the next file system, and it should have a MUCH higher limit, if
not theoretically unlimited.

--
Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com

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"Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e16%23xyzYHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like to
> give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like to
> know the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server 2003 if
> better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole
> path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
> file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file names would
> be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
> Any info?
> Thanks!
> Alejandro.
>

This is directly from microsoft.com
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...61033.mspx#EIC

Windows usually limits file names to 260 characters. But the file name must
actually be shorter than that, since the complete path (such as C:\Program
Files\filename.txt) is included in this character count. This is why you
might occasionally encounter an error when copying a file with a very long
file name to a location that has a longer path than its current location.



"Dustin Harper" <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote in message
news:eh4%23r5zYHHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> It is still 256 characters (255?) if I remember correctly. It is still
> based on NTFS.
>
> WinFS is the next file system, and it should have a MUCH higher limit, if
> not theoretically unlimited.
>
> --
> Dustin Harper
> dharper@vistarip.com
> http://www.vistarip.com
>
> --
> "Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e16%23xyzYHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like to
>> give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like to
>> know the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server 2003 if
>> better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole
>> path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
>> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
>> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
>> file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file names
>> would be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
>> Any info?
>> Thanks!
>> Alejandro.
>>
>

that is a great news, lets hope WinFS project dont get's dropped


"Dustin Harper" <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote in message
news:eh4%23r5zYHHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> It is still 256 characters (255?) if I remember correctly. It is still
> based on NTFS.
>
> WinFS is the next file system, and it should have a MUCH higher limit, if
> not theoretically unlimited.
>
> --
> Dustin Harper
> dharper@vistarip.com
> http://www.vistarip.com
>
> --
> "Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e16%23xyzYHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like to
>> give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like to
>> know the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server 2003 if
>> better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole
>> path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
>> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
>> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
>> file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file names
>> would be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
>> Any info?
>> Thanks!
>> Alejandro.
>>
>

WinFS is now .net3

NIK

"Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eWtkCI0YHHA.4232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> that is a great news, lets hope WinFS project dont get's dropped
>
>
> "Dustin Harper" <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote in message
> news:eh4%23r5zYHHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> It is still 256 characters (255?) if I remember correctly. It is still
>> based on NTFS.
>>
>> WinFS is the next file system, and it should have a MUCH higher limit, if
>> not theoretically unlimited.
>>
>> --
>> Dustin Harper
>> dharper@vistarip.com
>> http://www.vistarip.com
>>
>> --
>> "Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e16%23xyzYHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like
>>> to give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like
>>> to know the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server
>>> 2003 if better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes
>>> the whole path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
>>> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
>>> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista,
>>> this file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file
>>> names would be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
>>> Any info?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Alejandro.
>>>
>>
>
>

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:51:11 -0500, Alejandro wrote:

> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like to
> give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like to know
> the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server 2003 if
> better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole
> path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
> file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file names would
> be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
> Any info?
> Thanks!
> Alejandro.

According to wikipedia, most modern filesystems have a limit of 256
characters (+- a few) - the one notable exception being the Reiserfs file
system for Linux which has a limit of 4032. You might do a web search to
see if there is an MS driver for Reiser - that would solve your problem.

do you mean that WinFS object types are included in .net 3 ?

"nicholas hall" <niknik1971NOSPAM@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> WinFS is now .net3
>
> NIK
>
> "Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eWtkCI0YHHA.4232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> that is a great news, lets hope WinFS project dont get's dropped
>>
>>
>> "Dustin Harper" <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote in message
>> news:eh4%23r5zYHHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> It is still 256 characters (255?) if I remember correctly. It is still
>>> based on NTFS.
>>>
>>> WinFS is the next file system, and it should have a MUCH higher limit,
>>> if not theoretically unlimited.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dustin Harper
>>> dharper@vistarip.com
>>> http://www.vistarip.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Alejandro" <alexware69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e16%23xyzYHHA.984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like
>>>> to give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like
>>>> to know the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server
>>>> 2003 if better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes
>>>> the whole path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
>>>> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
>>>> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista,
>>>> this file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file
>>>> names would be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
>>>> Any info?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Alejandro.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

you are right regarding the Reiser4 file system (I read that wiki article
this morning but I missed the reiser one exception). problem with that is
that the reiser4 is not even included in the linux kernel so its future
looks uncertain...


"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:51:11 -0500, Alejandro wrote:
>
>> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I would like to
>> give a try again in case there are new info about this. I would like to
>> know
>> the file name size limit in windows vista (or windows server 2003 if
>> better). For NTFS the limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole
>> path like c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN.
>> I know Microsoft was working in a new file system and was planning to
>> include it with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
>> file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file names
>> would
>> be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
>> Any info?
>> Thanks!
>> Alejandro.
>
> According to wikipedia, most modern filesystems have a limit of 256
> characters (+- a few) - the one notable exception being the Reiserfs file
> system for Linux which has a limit of 4032. You might do a web search to
> see if there is an MS driver for Reiser - that would solve your problem.
>

Today, Alejandro made these interesting comments ...

> Hi, I posted this question some time ago with no luck, so I
> would like to give a try again in case there are new info
> about this. I would like to know the file name size limit in
> windows vista (or windows server 2003 if better). For NTFS the
> limit is 256 characters and this includes the whole path like
> c:\folder1\folder2\folder3....\folderN. I know Microsoft was
> working in a new file system and was planning to include it
> with Vista but later they removed the proyect from Vista, this
> file system was SQL-based and I suppose the limit for the file
> names would be greatly increased...but now I dont know.
> Any info?
> Thanks!
> Alejandro.
>
There are some good reasons to keep file names to 125 or less,
principly, you can't backup to optical even with UDF if they are
longer without being forced to truncate them. The extension counts,
I believe, as does any punctuation and the path as you say, AFAIK.
The latter leads me to want as few large sub-folder levels as I
can, besides making it easier to manage, although I set up my
folder structure for me to manage, and not Windows.

--
HP, aka Jerry