Vista - Vist Firewall Outgoing?

I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It appears that
in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are also flagged and
stopped? Can someone confirm that?

Installed VHP on Grandson's computer and was going to add a third party
firewall, but from what I could see, the inbuilt one was doing a good job.
Certainly Shields Up (https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2) gave it a 100%
stealth attaboy for incoming, but need to be re-assured the outgoing is
monitored and blocked.

Thanks
Frenchy

"Frenchy" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It appears
>that in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are also flagged
>and stopped? Can someone confirm that?
>
> Installed VHP on Grandson's computer and was going to add a third party
> firewall, but from what I could see, the inbuilt one was doing a good job.
> Certainly Shields Up (https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2) gave it a
> 100% stealth attaboy for incoming, but need to be re-assured the outgoing
> is monitored and blocked.
>
> Thanks
> Frenchy
>
>

Vista does have outbound filtering, but it is not on by default :-)

/Frenchy/ said:

> I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It appears that
> in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are also flagged and
> stopped? Can someone confirm that?
>
> Installed VHP on Grandson's computer and was going to add a third party
> firewall, but from what I could see, the inbuilt one was doing a good job.
> Certainly Shields Up (https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2) gave it a 100%
> stealth attaboy for incoming, but need to be re-assured the outgoing is
> monitored and blocked.

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"Frenchy" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It appears
>that in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are also flagged
>and stopped? Can someone confirm that?
>
> Installed VHP on Grandson's computer and was going to add a third party
> firewall, but from what I could see, the inbuilt one was doing a good job.
> Certainly Shields Up (https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2) gave it a
> 100% stealth attaboy for incoming, but need to be re-assured the outgoing
> is monitored and blocked.

You can configure the firewall to block outbound traffic by pressing Start
and typing Windows Firewall with Advanced Security and hitting enter.

Although in all honesty if you have to worry about outgoing data then your
system has *already* been compromised.

Steve Gibson is also a, shall we say, controversial figure then it comes to
security.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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/Paul Smith/ said:
>
> You can configure the firewall to block outbound traffic by pressing Start
> and typing Windows Firewall with Advanced Security and hitting enter.

A good tip. Can this interface be accessed in another manner - perhaps
via Control Panel?

Microsoft, too, is very controversial when it comes to security.


Paul Smith wrote:
> "Frenchy" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:et1cjq$lrk$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It
>> appears that in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are
>> also flagged and stopped? Can someone confirm that?
>>
>> Installed VHP on Grandson's computer and was going to add a third
>> party firewall, but from what I could see, the inbuilt one was doing a
>> good job. Certainly Shields Up (https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2)
>> gave it a 100% stealth attaboy for incoming, but need to be re-assured
>> the outgoing is monitored and blocked.
>
> You can configure the firewall to block outbound traffic by pressing
> Start and typing Windows Firewall with Advanced Security and hitting enter.
>
> Although in all honesty if you have to worry about outgoing data then
> your system has *already* been compromised.
>
> Steve Gibson is also a, shall we say, controversial figure then it comes
> to security.
>

>> I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It appears
>> that
in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are also flagged and
stopped? Can someone confirm that?

Frenchy:

Vista's f/w outbound control is "set to allow all if there is not a rule to
disallow" by default.

IMO, a good solution to outbound control is to use one of the following:

1) VistaFirewallControl app (free) for outbound control similar to ZA free.
Run it with the Vista f/w unless you are behind a NAT-router.
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html

2) PC Tools Firewall is a more full featured f/w, but there are some bugs in
the current version.
http://www.pctools.com/firewall/

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> A good tip. Can this interface be accessed in another manner - perhaps
> via Control Panel?

Yes, it's in Administrative Tools.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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I just wiped off PCTools Vista Firewall Plus.

The damn thing kept chewing up resources an an ever increasing rate. After
being up for 6-8 hours my CPU usage was constantly over 45%. My RAM usage
was up to 65-70%.

If I shut down the firewall my CPU usage immediately dropped to 4-8% and the
RAM usage decreased to about 23%.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"CZ" <CZ@no99spam.com> wrote in message
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>>> I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It appears
>>> that
> in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are also flagged and
> stopped? Can someone confirm that?
>
> Frenchy:
>
> Vista's f/w outbound control is "set to allow all if there is not a rule
> to disallow" by default.
>
> IMO, a good solution to outbound control is to use one of the following:
>
> 1) VistaFirewallControl app (free) for outbound control similar to ZA
> free. Run it with the Vista f/w unless you are behind a NAT-router.
> http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html
>
> 2) PC Tools Firewall is a more full featured f/w, but there are some bugs
> in the current version.
> http://www.pctools.com/firewall/
>
>

"Frenchy" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:et1cjq$lrk$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>I had heard Vista's firewall only stopped incoming nasties. It appears
>that in the final release outgoing non-approved programs are also flagged
>and stopped? Can someone confirm that?
>
> Installed VHP on Grandson's computer and was going to add a third party
> firewall, but from what I could see, the inbuilt one was doing a good job.
> Certainly Shields Up (https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2) gave it a
> 100% stealth attaboy for incoming, but need to be re-assured the outgoing
> is monitored and blocked.
>
> Thanks
> Frenchy

Control Panel/Admin Tools/Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0106.mspx