Vista - Vista - Arrogance & Stupidity

An important read ...

"Upgrading to Windows Vista has been banned by the U.S. Department of
Transportation (DOT), the National Institute of Standards and Technology
(NIST), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), technology giant Texas
Instruments and other corporations and government agencies (V1, V10, V11).
These organizations are evaluating their options, but overseas it's turning
into a stampede to get out of Microsoft software (V15)."

"It's becoming clear people are going to be holding on to their XP machines
as long as they can. Chip manufacturers in particular face a damaging glut
of memory and CPU chips because the anticipated Vista upgrade demand isn't
materializing."

"What went wrong? Basically, Vista was designed with almost no consideration
for the needs of Microsoft's customers. James Allchin, co-president of
Microsoft's Platform Products and Services Group wrote an internal memo
saying that Microsoft had lost touch with customer needs and if he didn't
work there he'd buy an Apple Macintosh (V12). Allchin retired the day Vista
shipped."

Full article here ...

http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html

Cheers.

--
The "Wow" starts now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=

Windows is not a virus! Viruses are small, efficient and built to get a job
done. Windows on the other hand ...

In article <1174443657.93323@netadmin1.interbaun.net>, nospam@nospam.com
says...
> An important read ...
>
> "Upgrading to Windows Vista has been banned by the U.S. Department of
> Transportation (DOT), the National Institute of Standards and Technology
> (NIST), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), technology giant Texas
> Instruments and other corporations and government agencies (V1, V10, V11).
> These organizations are evaluating their options, but overseas it's turning
> into a stampede to get out of Microsoft software (V15)."
>
> "It's becoming clear people are going to be holding on to their XP machines
> as long as they can. Chip manufacturers in particular face a damaging glut
> of memory and CPU chips because the anticipated Vista upgrade demand isn't
> materializing."
>
> "What went wrong? Basically, Vista was designed with almost no consideration
> for the needs of Microsoft's customers. James Allchin, co-president of
> Microsoft's Platform Products and Services Group wrote an internal memo
> saying that Microsoft had lost touch with customer needs and if he didn't
> work there he'd buy an Apple Macintosh (V12). Allchin retired the day Vista
> shipped."
>
> Full article here ...
>
> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>
> Cheers.

This guy sets up businesses of approx 1-100 computers in size, maybe
larger by now.

He KNOWS his stuff, and for instance when specifying cable, he suggests
not only the type of cable, but BRAND of cable, because per him, it makes
a HUGE difference.

I hope you do realize that they said the same thing about XP.

It's not against Vista per se, it's just how the gov deals with things.

They'll roll out Vista in late '08 or early '09 just watch, that's what they
always do.


"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1174443657.93323@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
> An important read ...
>
> "Upgrading to Windows Vista has been banned by the U.S. Department of
> Transportation (DOT), the National Institute of Standards and Technology
> (NIST), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), technology giant Texas
> Instruments and other corporations and government agencies (V1, V10, V11).
> These organizations are evaluating their options, but overseas it's
> turning
> into a stampede to get out of Microsoft software (V15)."
>
> "It's becoming clear people are going to be holding on to their XP
> machines
> as long as they can. Chip manufacturers in particular face a damaging glut
> of memory and CPU chips because the anticipated Vista upgrade demand isn't
> materializing."
>
> "What went wrong? Basically, Vista was designed with almost no
> consideration
> for the needs of Microsoft's customers. James Allchin, co-president of
> Microsoft's Platform Products and Services Group wrote an internal memo
> saying that Microsoft had lost touch with customer needs and if he didn't
> work there he'd buy an Apple Macintosh (V12). Allchin retired the day
> Vista
> shipped."
>
> Full article here ...
>
> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> The "Wow" starts now.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
>
> Windows is not a virus! Viruses are small, efficient and built to get a
> job
> done. Windows on the other hand ...
>

I've been in civil service for 22 years, and (yes) US government LOVES
to knuckle under industry. Especially if they're getting something for
their indiscretions.

But a lot of departments are seriously cash-starved, and (let's face it)
linux is simply better for secure/sensitive/discrete sorts of work,
research efforts, large-scale work, blah blah blah.

The X and Y generation is hip to linux, sometimes out of economic
necessity. They'll eventually become the next generation of
bureaucrats. The implications are fairly trivial to read.

Shane Nokes wrote:
> I hope you do realize that they said the same thing about XP.
>
> It's not against Vista per se, it's just how the gov deals with things.
>
> They'll roll out Vista in late '08 or early '09 just watch, that's what
> they always do.
>
>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:1174443657.93323@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
>> An important read ...
>>
>> "Upgrading to Windows Vista has been banned by the U.S. Department of
>> Transportation (DOT), the National Institute of Standards and Technology
>> (NIST), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), technology giant Texas
>> Instruments and other corporations and government agencies (V1, V10,
>> V11).
>> These organizations are evaluating their options, but overseas it's
>> turning
>> into a stampede to get out of Microsoft software (V15)."
>>
>> "It's becoming clear people are going to be holding on to their XP
>> machines
>> as long as they can. Chip manufacturers in particular face a damaging
>> glut
>> of memory and CPU chips because the anticipated Vista upgrade demand
>> isn't
>> materializing."
>>
>> "What went wrong? Basically, Vista was designed with almost no
>> consideration
>> for the needs of Microsoft's customers. James Allchin, co-president of
>> Microsoft's Platform Products and Services Group wrote an internal memo
>> saying that Microsoft had lost touch with customer needs and if he didn't
>> work there he'd buy an Apple Macintosh (V12). Allchin retired the day
>> Vista
>> shipped."
>>
>> Full article here ...
>>
>> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
>> The "Wow" starts now.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
>>
>> Windows is not a virus! Viruses are small, efficient and built to get
>> a job
>> done. Windows on the other hand ...
>>

In article <efxgQH3aHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
Morpheus_Phreak@nospam.msn.com says...
> I hope you do realize that they said the same thing about XP.
>
> It's not against Vista per se, it's just how the gov deals with things.
>
> They'll roll out Vista in late '08 or early '09 just watch, that's what they
> always do.

Vista is a whole new problem. DOT and others banning it?? That is very
new news and reaction to MS indeed.

MS hasn't just shot itself in the foot, it's blown it's own legs off.

And this JUST when Linux is maturing (at least at this current plateau)
and taking business away from MS around the world and in LARGE
organizations.

It's sinmply not the same anymore. The latecomer in the race is now
catching up fast. It really is (And it makes me smile with every new
Linux adoption).










>
>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:1174443657.93323@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
> > An important read ...
> >
> > "Upgrading to Windows Vista has been banned by the U.S. Department of
> > Transportation (DOT), the National Institute of Standards and Technology
> > (NIST), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), technology giant Texas
> > Instruments and other corporations and government agencies (V1, V10, V11).
> > These organizations are evaluating their options, but overseas it's
> > turning
> > into a stampede to get out of Microsoft software (V15)."
> >
> > "It's becoming clear people are going to be holding on to their XP
> > machines
> > as long as they can. Chip manufacturers in particular face a damaging glut
> > of memory and CPU chips because the anticipated Vista upgrade demand isn't
> > materializing."
> >
> > "What went wrong? Basically, Vista was designed with almost no
> > consideration
> > for the needs of Microsoft's customers. James Allchin, co-president of
> > Microsoft's Platform Products and Services Group wrote an internal memo
> > saying that Microsoft had lost touch with customer needs and if he didn't
> > work there he'd buy an Apple Macintosh (V12). Allchin retired the day
> > Vista
> > shipped."
> >
> > Full article here ...
> >
> > http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > --
> > The "Wow" starts now.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc&eurl=
> >
> > Windows is not a virus! Viruses are small, efficient and built to get a
> > job
> > done. Windows on the other hand ...
> >
>

__/ [ Paul Bramscher ] on Wednesday 21 March 2007 04:42 \__

> Shane Nokes wrote:
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:1174443657.93323@netadmin1.interbaun.net...
>>> An important read ...
>>>
>>> "Upgrading to Windows Vista has been banned by the U.S. Department of
>>> Transportation (DOT), the National Institute of Standards and Technology
>>> (NIST), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), technology giant Texas
>>> Instruments and other corporations and government agencies (V1, V10,
>>> V11).
>>> These organizations are evaluating their options, but overseas it's
>>> turning
>>> into a stampede to get out of Microsoft software (V15)."
>>>
>>> "It's becoming clear people are going to be holding on to their XP
>>> machines
>>> as long as they can. Chip manufacturers in particular face a damaging
>>> glut
>>> of memory and CPU chips because the anticipated Vista upgrade demand
>>> isn't
>>> materializing."
>>>
>>> "What went wrong? Basically, Vista was designed with almost no
>>> consideration
>>> for the needs of Microsoft's customers. James Allchin, co-president of
>>> Microsoft's Platform Products and Services Group wrote an internal memo
>>> saying that Microsoft had lost touch with customer needs and if he didn't
>>> work there he'd buy an Apple Macintosh (V12). Allchin retired the day
>>> Vista
>>> shipped."
>>>
>>> Full article here ...
>>>
>>> http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit043.html
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>
>> I hope you do realize that they said the same thing about XP.
>>
>> It's not against Vista per se, it's just how the gov deals with things.
>>
>> They'll roll out Vista in late '08 or early '09 just watch, that's what
>> they always do.
>
> I've been in civil service for 22 years, and (yes) US government LOVES
> to knuckle under industry. Especially if they're getting something for
> their indiscretions.
>
> But a lot of departments are seriously cash-starved, and (let's face it)
> linux is simply better for secure/sensitive/discrete sorts of work,
> research efforts, large-scale work, blah blah blah.
>
> The X and Y generation is hip to linux, sometimes out of economic
> necessity. They'll eventually become the next generation of
> bureaucrats. The implications are fairly trivial to read.

Comparisons between the adoption rates of XP and the adoption rates of Vista
have already been made. The differences are mind blowing.

Survey: Vista Used Less than 1 percent of PCs

,----[ Quot
| Windows Vista may yet prove to be an unstoppable juggernaut,
| but statistics released Thursday by a market research firm
| show that the new operating system hasn't even licked its
| nine-year old ancestor.
`----

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129525/article.html

The poor quality of Windows Vista results from internal issues, so look for
no past patterns.

Understanding Open Source technology

,----[ Quote ]
| Already industrial watchers are pointing to a serious showdown,
| which in the meantime, the Chief Executive of Microsoft Corporation,
| Steve Ballmer did not rule out in a recent interview in which he
| also explained why Microsoft announced a sweeping reorganisation
| of its Windows division.
|
| "We have to outrun this phenomenon" he was quoted as saying, and "
| ...if we let up for a minute... then that other stuff [Linux] will gain
| attraction."
`----

http://www.thetidenews.com/article.a...rColumn=ISSUES

Also consider these:

MS Insider: The Office Crew Isn't Smart Enough to Supplant Real Windows
Developers

,----[ Quote ]
| "With Alchin retiring, MarkL and MarkZ, two of the most talented
| architects in MS already having left, the picture gets really
| ugly for the Windows division," my friend claimed, and the BV's
| core team members, Ian McDonald, Jack Mayo, Todd ****e, Clyde
| Rodriguez and others are starting to connect the dots.
|
| [...]
|
| He concluded ominously. "A trainwreck of biblical proportions looms.
| Pick a good seat on the sidelines, trainwrecks this large take
| awhile to complete. Vista may be the last MS OS for some time to
| come, especially if Cutler decides to play hardball."
`----

http://www.emailbattles.com/2006/09/...ws-developers/
http://tinyurl.com/35eqrt


,----[ Quote ]
| "Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new Vista
| operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company 'scrambles' to fix
| internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to SHN... Microsoft has
| also admitted that it has major problems in it's Windows division and has
| has immediately initiated a total restructure of the division..."
`----

http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computi...forms/R7G5G6U4


Microsoft admits Vista screwed - report

,----[ Quote ]
| Vista SP1 is code named "Fiji", presumably after a pretty looking
| island which is paralysed by coups.
|
| In a statement regarding the service pack Microsoft admits that
| Vista has "high impact" problems.
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37125


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> But a lot of departments are seriously cash-starved, and (let's face it)

lets face what?
your nonsense

is that some sort of premise that you can never prove? if you could you
would
so lets face it? heh


oh brother

Rich wrote:
>> But a lot of departments are seriously cash-starved, and (let's face it)
>
> lets face what?
> your nonsense
>
> is that some sort of premise that you can never prove? if you could you
> would
> so lets face it? heh
>
>
> oh brother

Dude, get real. When you've seen half of what I've seen, I may bite
your troll-bait. Until then, buzz off.

Don't you get weary of playing this off Broadway act to the same three guys
in the back row all the time?

heh


Rich

ps ... those who ignore history or worse make up their own, are condemed to
repeat the real thing.

> Dude, get real. When you've seen half of what I've seen, I may bite

there's that IRONY again, don't just love it

you're expertise isn't impressing anyone. When experience leads to nonsese,
get better experience or a better scientific method.

Rich