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Microsoft XP after Vista

  1. #1


    circlebbart@nemont.net Guest

    Microsoft XP after Vista

    I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    Explorer and Outlook Express.

    I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    the cause of my problems.

    Has anyone else experienced these problems?


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  2. #2


    MICHAEL Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista


    <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    >I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    > over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    > significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    > Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >
    > I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    > and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    > the cause of my problems.
    >
    > Has anyone else experienced these problems?


    What?

    Did you install Vista as an upgrade over XP?


    -Michael


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  3. #3


    Dale M. White -LV32 Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    Are you asking that since the release of MS Vista, does windows update some
    how break XP ?

    That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard all
    week. I've not had any issues with Xp sicne the release of Vista and I dual
    boot the OSes. Odds are, you might have just picked up some malware or other
    little internet nasty around the launch time.

    Unless there was some kind of bug, where some updates to Vista somehow got
    applied to XP, I don't see how you would there would be a problem. Though it
    does make for a good CT against MS

    <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    >I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    > over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    > significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    > Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >
    > I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    > and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    > the cause of my problems.
    >
    > Has anyone else experienced these problems?
    >



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  4. #4


    John Inzer Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    circlebbart@nemont.net wrote:
    > I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    > over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    > significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    > Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >
    > I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    > and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    > the cause of my problems.
    >
    > Has anyone else experienced these problems?

    =============================
    I've seen a few WinXP issues reported
    that were corrected by uninstalling IE7...
    mainly relating to Windows Movie Maker.

    You can uninstall IE7 from your XP system...
    If you would like to give it a try...have a look
    at the following article:

    (927177) How to uninstall Internet Explorer 7
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927177/en-us

    Also...if you have specific WinXP issues...it
    might be worth a try to post them in an appropriate
    newsgroup.

    Internet Explorer General
    http://tinyurl.com/y925vx

    Outlook Express 6 General
    http://tinyurl.com/crde9

    Windows XP General
    http://tinyurl.com/c3c9v

    --
    John Inzer
    MS Picture It! -
    Digital Image MVP

    Digital Image
    Highlights and FAQs
    http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

    Notice
    This is not tech support
    I am a volunteer

    Solutions that work for
    me may not work for you

    Proceed at your own risk



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  5. #5


    kirk jim Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    You installed internet explorer 7 because microsoft PUSHED IT in the
    automatic
    updates. This was a blundering mistake on part of microsoft.

    You can uninstall internet explorer 7 from the add-remove programs....

    you can post your problems on the internet explorer newsgroup...
    Perhaps they can help there, but its a jungle in that newsgroup.

    IE7 has create a huge amount of havoc.

    I have it installed on XP but I use www.avantbrowser.com for browsing.

    The only good way I have found to install IE7 is directly after a fresh
    install of XP.



    <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    >I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    > over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    > significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    > Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >
    > I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    > and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    > the cause of my problems.
    >
    > Has anyone else experienced these problems?
    >




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  6. #6


    kirk jim Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    >That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard all
    week.

    Its not crazy.. its IE7 that has created a huge amount of problems.. go to
    the IE newsgroup
    and hang around there and you will see how the poor XP users are suffering
    from this
    monstrosity....

    Ie7 was part of the XP autoupdate... many thought it was ok and installed
    it... and to their
    horror 100 things broke on their machines. Thats why he says "since vista
    came out"
    IE7 for XP was released about the same time vista was released.


    "Dale M. White -LV32" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
    news:uHEK7TDbHHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Are you asking that since the release of MS Vista, does windows update
    > some how break XP ?
    >
    > That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard all
    > week. I've not had any issues with Xp sicne the release of Vista and I
    > dual boot the OSes. Odds are, you might have just picked up some malware
    > or other little internet nasty around the launch time.
    >
    > Unless there was some kind of bug, where some updates to Vista somehow got
    > applied to XP, I don't see how you would there would be a problem. Though
    > it does make for a good CT against MS
    >
    > <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    > news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    >>I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    >> over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    >> significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    >> Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >>
    >> I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    >> and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    >> the cause of my problems.
    >>
    >> Has anyone else experienced these problems?
    >>

    >




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  7. #7


    Mick Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    What a load of crap! IE7 came out in a Beta version last year, and the final
    version was released last year, NOT when vista was released. Absolutely
    nothing wrong with IE7 in XP. Learn how to use a computer before you make
    wild and untrue accusations. I run XP with IE7 on 1 comp, and vista on the
    other with IE7.
    Mick in Australia

    "kirk jim" wrote:

    > >That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard all

    > week.
    >
    > Its not crazy.. its IE7 that has created a huge amount of problems.. go to
    > the IE newsgroup
    > and hang around there and you will see how the poor XP users are suffering
    > from this
    > monstrosity....
    >
    > Ie7 was part of the XP autoupdate... many thought it was ok and installed
    > it... and to their
    > horror 100 things broke on their machines. Thats why he says "since vista
    > came out"
    > IE7 for XP was released about the same time vista was released.
    >
    >
    > "Dale M. White -LV32" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
    > news:uHEK7TDbHHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > > Are you asking that since the release of MS Vista, does windows update
    > > some how break XP ?
    > >
    > > That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard all
    > > week. I've not had any issues with Xp sicne the release of Vista and I
    > > dual boot the OSes. Odds are, you might have just picked up some malware
    > > or other little internet nasty around the launch time.
    > >
    > > Unless there was some kind of bug, where some updates to Vista somehow got
    > > applied to XP, I don't see how you would there would be a problem. Though
    > > it does make for a good CT against MS
    > >
    > > <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    > > news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    > >>I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    > >> over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    > >> significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    > >> Explorer and Outlook Express.
    > >>
    > >> I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    > >> and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    > >> the cause of my problems.
    > >>
    > >> Has anyone else experienced these problems?
    > >>

    > >

    >
    >
    >


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  8. #8


    kirk jim Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    LOL! You are telling ME to learn how to use a computer?
    I know more about computers than 100 of you.
    You see 100 fools does not make 1 smart person.

    Stop the crap and drag your butt to the ie newsgroup sit there for a while
    and see what is going on before you open your maw and let blabbering
    nonsense come out!
    I respect people from australia... I love them... its only you that I am
    calling stupid..
    so dont be offended.. its just true.

    "Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:CEE8A0DE-3A3E-4DB1-9871-074CB9BC0B1D@microsoft.com...
    > What a load of crap! IE7 came out in a Beta version last year, and the
    > final
    > version was released last year, NOT when vista was released. Absolutely
    > nothing wrong with IE7 in XP. Learn how to use a computer before you make
    > wild and untrue accusations. I run XP with IE7 on 1 comp, and vista on the
    > other with IE7.
    > Mick in Australia
    >
    > "kirk jim" wrote:
    >
    >> >That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard
    >> >all

    >> week.
    >>
    >> Its not crazy.. its IE7 that has created a huge amount of problems.. go
    >> to
    >> the IE newsgroup
    >> and hang around there and you will see how the poor XP users are
    >> suffering
    >> from this
    >> monstrosity....
    >>
    >> Ie7 was part of the XP autoupdate... many thought it was ok and installed
    >> it... and to their
    >> horror 100 things broke on their machines. Thats why he says "since vista
    >> came out"
    >> IE7 for XP was released about the same time vista was released.
    >>
    >>
    >> "Dale M. White -LV32" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
    >> news:uHEK7TDbHHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> > Are you asking that since the release of MS Vista, does windows update
    >> > some how break XP ?
    >> >
    >> > That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard
    >> > all
    >> > week. I've not had any issues with Xp sicne the release of Vista and I
    >> > dual boot the OSes. Odds are, you might have just picked up some
    >> > malware
    >> > or other little internet nasty around the launch time.
    >> >
    >> > Unless there was some kind of bug, where some updates to Vista somehow
    >> > got
    >> > applied to XP, I don't see how you would there would be a problem.
    >> > Though
    >> > it does make for a good CT against MS
    >> >
    >> > <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    >> > news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    >> >>I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    >> >> over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    >> >> significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    >> >> Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >> >>
    >> >> I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    >> >> and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    >> >> the cause of my problems.
    >> >>
    >> >> Has anyone else experienced these problems?
    >> >>
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >>




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  9. #9


    Alias Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    kirk jim wrote:
    > LOL! You are telling ME to learn how to use a computer?
    > I know more about computers than 100 of you.
    > You see 100 fools does not make 1 smart person.
    >
    > Stop the crap and drag your butt to the ie newsgroup sit there for a while
    > and see what is going on before you open your maw and let blabbering
    > nonsense come out!
    > I respect people from australia... I love them... its only you that I am
    > calling stupid..
    > so dont be offended.. its just true.


    Kirk, in all fairness, if you install IE7 properly there are no
    problems. Problem is that MS doesn't tell their paying customers how to
    install it and people have problems with it. The culprits for messing up
    the IE7 installation are malware, add ons and not disabling the AV and
    anti spyware/malware apps. When the install for IE7 comes up, users
    should be forced to read a pop up that explains what to do to prepare
    for installing it but that would mean that MS cares for their paying
    customers and this is just more evidence that they only care about money.

    Alias
    >
    > "Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:CEE8A0DE-3A3E-4DB1-9871-074CB9BC0B1D@microsoft.com...
    >> What a load of crap! IE7 came out in a Beta version last year, and the
    >> final
    >> version was released last year, NOT when vista was released. Absolutely
    >> nothing wrong with IE7 in XP. Learn how to use a computer before you make
    >> wild and untrue accusations. I run XP with IE7 on 1 comp, and vista on the
    >> other with IE7.
    >> Mick in Australia
    >>
    >> "kirk jim" wrote:
    >>
    >>>> That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard
    >>>> all
    >>> week.
    >>>
    >>> Its not crazy.. its IE7 that has created a huge amount of problems.. go
    >>> to
    >>> the IE newsgroup
    >>> and hang around there and you will see how the poor XP users are
    >>> suffering
    >>> from this
    >>> monstrosity....
    >>>
    >>> Ie7 was part of the XP autoupdate... many thought it was ok and installed
    >>> it... and to their
    >>> horror 100 things broke on their machines. Thats why he says "since vista
    >>> came out"
    >>> IE7 for XP was released about the same time vista was released.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Dale M. White -LV32" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
    >>> news:uHEK7TDbHHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Are you asking that since the release of MS Vista, does windows update
    >>>> some how break XP ?
    >>>>
    >>>> That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard
    >>>> all
    >>>> week. I've not had any issues with Xp sicne the release of Vista and I
    >>>> dual boot the OSes. Odds are, you might have just picked up some
    >>>> malware
    >>>> or other little internet nasty around the launch time.
    >>>>
    >>>> Unless there was some kind of bug, where some updates to Vista somehow
    >>>> got
    >>>> applied to XP, I don't see how you would there would be a problem.
    >>>> Though
    >>>> it does make for a good CT against MS
    >>>>
    >>>> <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    >>>> news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    >>>>> I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    >>>>> over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have had
    >>>>> significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    >>>>> Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not compatible
    >>>>> and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista are
    >>>>> the cause of my problems.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Has anyone else experienced these problems?
    >>>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >


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  10. #10


    kirk jim Guest

    Re: Microsoft XP after Vista

    Alias... I know that.. thats why I install ie7 after a fresh format...
    but I think about it twice before I install it on a clients computer...

    too many things can go wrong.. there are many things that can break..
    Its not only malware and add ons... there are whole programs that dont work
    with IE7...

    If I dont have the time to fiddle with a problem, and the machine has to be
    working I dont experiment with IE7 installations, or at least I make a
    restore point before I attempt installing the dreaded thing.

    What you say is theoretical... most people of the world don't know
    much about browser versions and compatibility problems...
    they may run into one of the thousand things that may go wrong,
    and they get frustrated.....

    That is why it was VERY important MS to make it an OPTIONAL installation,
    and not have autoupdate download it, even though
    IE7 asked you before you installed, that is a very stupid excuse.
    Many people see something new, and trust MS and say.. ok if they give me
    this update lets go ahead and do it....

    well this IE7 monstrosity has created hundreds of thousands of problems...

    IT HAS BUGS, LOTS OF THEM...

    I was in the IE newsgroup for a long time seeing the reaction of people to
    IE7. They absolutely hated it....
    The outcry from the people was huge.. im not kidding here.


    I personally don't really care, since I don't use IE7 because of its
    horrible interface. I use avantbrowser that is a shell, and firefox.

    I do however install ie7 on MY machines after fresh install of XP, I would
    even slipstream it at some point. I don't use it though... Avant uses the
    ie7 engine and has a far better interface, and firefox is also very good....

    I have to say that Ie7 drove more people to firefox than would ever go if it
    wasnt for Ie7! lol

    Why? Well they installed ie7 and they liked the tabs idea.. but ie7 was
    crappy, and they didnt want to lose the tabs and go back to ie6, so they
    uninstalled ie7 and downloaded
    FF 2.0 that was stable and had tabs.... I havent been in the ie newsgroup
    for a while now... but I can imagine people
    are still having problems.



    "Alias" <alias@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
    news:ettn65$ohc$1@aioe.org...
    > kirk jim wrote:
    >> LOL! You are telling ME to learn how to use a computer?
    >> I know more about computers than 100 of you.
    >> You see 100 fools does not make 1 smart person.
    >>
    >> Stop the crap and drag your butt to the ie newsgroup sit there for a
    >> while
    >> and see what is going on before you open your maw and let blabbering
    >> nonsense come out!
    >> I respect people from australia... I love them... its only you that I am
    >> calling stupid..
    >> so dont be offended.. its just true.

    >
    > Kirk, in all fairness, if you install IE7 properly there are no problems.
    > Problem is that MS doesn't tell their paying customers how to install it
    > and people have problems with it. The culprits for messing up the IE7
    > installation are malware, add ons and not disabling the AV and anti
    > spyware/malware apps. When the install for IE7 comes up, users should be
    > forced to read a pop up that explains what to do to prepare for installing
    > it but that would mean that MS cares for their paying customers and this
    > is just more evidence that they only care about money.
    >
    > Alias
    >>
    >> "Mick" <Mick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:CEE8A0DE-3A3E-4DB1-9871-074CB9BC0B1D@microsoft.com...
    >>> What a load of crap! IE7 came out in a Beta version last year, and the
    >>> final
    >>> version was released last year, NOT when vista was released. Absolutely
    >>> nothing wrong with IE7 in XP. Learn how to use a computer before you
    >>> make
    >>> wild and untrue accusations. I run XP with IE7 on 1 comp, and vista on
    >>> the
    >>> other with IE7.
    >>> Mick in Australia
    >>>
    >>> "kirk jim" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>> That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard
    >>>>> all
    >>>> week.
    >>>>
    >>>> Its not crazy.. its IE7 that has created a huge amount of problems.. go
    >>>> to
    >>>> the IE newsgroup
    >>>> and hang around there and you will see how the poor XP users are
    >>>> suffering
    >>>> from this
    >>>> monstrosity....
    >>>>
    >>>> Ie7 was part of the XP autoupdate... many thought it was ok and
    >>>> installed
    >>>> it... and to their
    >>>> horror 100 things broke on their machines. Thats why he says "since
    >>>> vista
    >>>> came out"
    >>>> IE7 for XP was released about the same time vista was released.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Dale M. White -LV32" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
    >>>> news:uHEK7TDbHHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> Are you asking that since the release of MS Vista, does windows update
    >>>>> some how break XP ?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> That might just be one of the craziest conspiracy theroies I've heard
    >>>>> all
    >>>>> week. I've not had any issues with Xp sicne the release of Vista and I
    >>>>> dual boot the OSes. Odds are, you might have just picked up some
    >>>>> malware
    >>>>> or other little internet nasty around the launch time.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Unless there was some kind of bug, where some updates to Vista somehow
    >>>>> got
    >>>>> applied to XP, I don't see how you would there would be a problem.
    >>>>> Though
    >>>>> it does make for a good CT against MS
    >>>>>
    >>>>> <circlebbart@nemont.net> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:1174534083.036701.162170@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
    >>>>>> I have been running Windows XP on a Dell Dimension 4600 system for
    >>>>>> over 3 years with no problems. Since the release of Vista, I have
    >>>>>> had
    >>>>>> significant performance problems with XP, in particular Internet
    >>>>>> Explorer and Outlook Express.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I have been told that the problem is the 2 products are not
    >>>>>> compatible
    >>>>>> and that microsoft automatic downloads since the release of Vista
    >>>>>> are
    >>>>>> the cause of my problems.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Has anyone else experienced these problems?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>



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