Vista - Backup Vista via Hard Drive Image

What's my best option?

I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it Symantic
site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with Vista? Why
shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy and backup the
entire partition?

I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I have
Home Premimum and it's not included.

TrueImage HOME 10.0.4942 is the way to go. It is 100% compatible with Vista.

The NTFS file system has changed between XP and Vista. The older utilities
can not handle this without errors, either immediate of delayed by a few
days.

TrueImage allows you to "create" an image from the boot CD - Ghost only
allows you to recover from a failed system with their boot CD.

TrueImage wins.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> What's my best option?
>
> I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it Symantic
> site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with Vista? Why
> shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy and backup the
> entire partition?
>
> I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I have
> Home Premimum and it's not included.
>
>
>

Hi there,

I don't think you can boot from a floppy and use Ghost 10. I use Ghost 7.5
from a network enabled boot floppy. So, far, the backup part is fine. Upon
restore, I get a Black Screen of Error and that winload.exe is not present
or corrupted and I need to repair the OS. I boot with the Vista Business
DVD and select Repair... it then installs some drivers and restarts fine. I
agree with Richard that is due to the change in structure of Vista's NTFS.
As I'm only restoring for testing purposes for now, it's not a biggie. By
the time we go live, there will no doubt be better options for this.

Cheers
Craig


"Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> What's my best option?
>
> I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it Symantic
> site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with Vista? Why
> shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy and backup the
> entire partition?
>
> I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I have
> Home Premimum and it's not included.
>
>
>

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OryoDLIbHHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> TrueImage HOME 10.0.4942 is the way to go. It is 100% compatible with
> Vista.
>
> The NTFS file system has changed between XP and Vista. The older utilities
> can not handle this without errors, either immediate of delayed by a few
> days.
>
> TrueImage allows you to "create" an image from the boot CD - Ghost only
> allows you to recover from a failed system with their boot CD.
>
> TrueImage wins.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban MVP
> Microsoft Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:VtuMh.21070$Wc.15713@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> What's my best option?
>>
>> I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it Symantic
>> site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with Vista? Why
>> shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy and backup the
>> entire partition?
>>
>> I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I have
>> Home Premimum and it's not included.
>>
>>
>>
>


Thanks for that. Just so I undersand what your're saying, to create the
partition image with True Image you boot off the CD then pick the partion to
backup to and the loction to place the image right? Then to restore, boot
of the CD pick the backup image file and the destination partition?

You can also create the image from within Vista if you so desire. The
capability is also on the boot CD.

In Ghost you MUST create the image from within Windows.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OryoDLIbHHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> TrueImage HOME 10.0.4942 is the way to go. It is 100% compatible with
>> Vista.
>>
>> The NTFS file system has changed between XP and Vista. The older
>> utilities can not handle this without errors, either immediate of delayed
>> by a few days.
>>
>> TrueImage allows you to "create" an image from the boot CD - Ghost only
>> allows you to recover from a failed system with their boot CD.
>>
>> TrueImage wins.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban MVP
>> Microsoft Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:VtuMh.21070$Wc.15713@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>> What's my best option?
>>>
>>> I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it Symantic
>>> site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with Vista?
>>> Why shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy and backup
>>> the entire partition?
>>>
>>> I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I have
>>> Home Premimum and it's not included.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks for that. Just so I undersand what your're saying, to create the
> partition image with True Image you boot off the CD then pick the partion
> to
> backup to and the loction to place the image right? Then to restore, boot
> of the CD pick the backup image file and the destination partition?
>
>
>

As Richard has advised you, Ghost will restore only from the CD. Images
MUST be made from the installed product and it will not install on Vista.


"Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OryoDLIbHHA.3584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> TrueImage HOME 10.0.4942 is the way to go. It is 100% compatible with
>> Vista.
>>
>> The NTFS file system has changed between XP and Vista. The older
>> utilities can not handle this without errors, either immediate of delayed
>> by a few days.
>>
>> TrueImage allows you to "create" an image from the boot CD - Ghost only
>> allows you to recover from a failed system with their boot CD.
>>
>> TrueImage wins.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban MVP
>> Microsoft Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:VtuMh.21070$Wc.15713@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>> What's my best option?
>>>
>>> I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it Symantic
>>> site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with Vista?
>>> Why shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy and backup
>>> the entire partition?
>>>
>>> I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I have
>>> Home Premimum and it's not included.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks for that. Just so I undersand what your're saying, to create the
> partition image with True Image you boot off the CD then pick the partion
> to
> backup to and the loction to place the image right? Then to restore, boot
> of the CD pick the backup image file and the destination partition?
>
>
>

On Mar 22, 3:18 pm, "Sam" <s...@nospam.com> wrote:
> What's my best option?
>
> I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it Symantic
> site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with Vista? Why
> shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy and backup the
> entire partition?
>
> I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I have
> Home Premimum and it's not included.

You may try Paragon Drive Backup 8.5.
http://www.drive-backup.com/home/personal/

I used it with Vista and XP (dual boot) for 3 months already and it
looks like fine. Tried to restore the whole HDD and partitions
separately, everything is booting OK and all data are secured. Once I
restored from their recovery CD in case of my system boot crash and
find it very useful. Anyway, you can try it and make your own opinion.

"Sam" <sam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> What's my best option?
>
> I was looking to use Ghost to image my C-Drive partition but it
> Symantic site says XP/2000 only for Ghost 10. Anyone tried ghost with
> Vista? Why shouldn't it work if it's I just want to boot from floppy
> and backup the entire partition?
>
> I also ran across Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore but alas I
> have Home Premimum and it's not included.
>
>
The only way I've gotten Ghost 10 or earlier to produce an image of
Vista that boots when restored is to boot to DOS (using a CD or USB key)
and use ghost.exe in raw mode (-ir if I recall correctly). Takes
forever and you end up with a larger image than is necessary, but it
works.

On the other hand, Ghost 11 works great with Vista.

Regards,

Dave

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You can also create the image from within Vista if you so desire. The
> capability is also on the boot CD.
>
> In Ghost you MUST create the image from within Windows.
>

Not so. I create images using Ghost from a DOS boot all the time.

Regards,

Dave

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
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> As Richard has advised you, Ghost will restore only from the CD.
> Images MUST be made from the installed product and it will not install
> on Vista.
>
>
If I understand what you are saying, this isn't correct. Ghost can
create perfectly usable Vista images from outside of Vista. Boot to the
Ghost CD and use ghost.exe. For versions before Ghost 11, you have to
use raw mode to produce a usable image. Ghost 11 doesn't require this
workaround.

Regards,

Dave