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Do I need Windows Defender or not?

  1. #1


    Larry E Guest

    Do I need Windows Defender or not?

    I have Windows Live OneCare on my Vista Home Premium computer. I also
    noticed that there is a separate entry for Windows Defender under All
    Programs, but every time I click on it, it tells me that Windows Defender is
    turned off. I'm pretty sure Windows Defender is now an integrated part of
    Windows Live OneCare. If that is the case, can I safely uninstall the other
    incidence of Windows Defender? It's not listed on the Add/Remove programs
    list in the Control Panel.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.

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  3. #2


    Shane Nokes Guest

    Re: Do I need Windows Defender or not?

    It doesn't install another instance of Windows Defender.

    It actually integrates the functionality into OneCare so there's nothing to
    uninstall really.

    I just delete the shortcut so I'm not tempted to try to start it up.


    "Larry E" <LarryE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:16BC56E1-1CDE-44CB-8E30-59349014D4AD@microsoft.com...
    >I have Windows Live OneCare on my Vista Home Premium computer. I also
    > noticed that there is a separate entry for Windows Defender under All
    > Programs, but every time I click on it, it tells me that Windows Defender
    > is
    > turned off. I'm pretty sure Windows Defender is now an integrated part of
    > Windows Live OneCare. If that is the case, can I safely uninstall the
    > other
    > incidence of Windows Defender? It's not listed on the Add/Remove programs
    > list in the Control Panel.
    >
    > Thanks in advance for any advice.



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  4. #3


    Richard Guest

    Re: Do I need Windows Defender or not?

    Just goes to show you how out of touch the security team at Microsoft is
    with the real world.

    First they push out Defender. Actually a good utility.

    Then, without telling anyone they add Defender functionality into
    LiveOneCare. It is designed to turn off Defender each time you boot. But you
    the user don't know that is going on and it looks like a worm has started to
    shut down your protection utilities. You panic and start to run virus and
    spyware scans, etc.

    Only by reading the Defender Teams blog did I learn what they had done.
    These folks need a real talking too.

    Richard.



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  5. #4


    Shane Nokes Guest

    Re: Do I need Windows Defender or not?

    What are you talking about?

    It doesn't turn off Defender, it merely integrates the functionality into
    the main interface of OneCare.

    Maybe you should complain about Norton.

    I install Norton Utilities and then went to Norton Systemworks.

    Now I've found that I can only access the utilities through the Systemworks
    interface.

    How dare they....see how moronic that sounds?



    "Richard" <rfeirste@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:1307rlvb38pfqfe@corp.supernews.com...
    > Just goes to show you how out of touch the security team at Microsoft is
    > with the real world.
    >
    > First they push out Defender. Actually a good utility.
    >
    > Then, without telling anyone they add Defender functionality into
    > LiveOneCare. It is designed to turn off Defender each time you boot. But
    > you the user don't know that is going on and it looks like a worm has
    > started to shut down your protection utilities. You panic and start to run
    > virus and spyware scans, etc.
    >
    > Only by reading the Defender Teams blog did I learn what they had done.
    > These folks need a real talking too.
    >
    > Richard.
    >


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  6. #5


    Larry E Guest

    Re: Do I need Windows Defender or not?

    Thank you very much Shane. I think I'll delete it from the list too so I'm
    not tempted to start it up again. LOL

    "Shane Nokes" wrote:

    > What are you talking about?
    >
    > It doesn't turn off Defender, it merely integrates the functionality into
    > the main interface of OneCare.
    >
    > Maybe you should complain about Norton.
    >
    > I install Norton Utilities and then went to Norton Systemworks.
    >
    > Now I've found that I can only access the utilities through the Systemworks
    > interface.
    >
    > How dare they....see how moronic that sounds?
    >
    >
    >
    > "Richard" <rfeirste@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:1307rlvb38pfqfe@corp.supernews.com...
    > > Just goes to show you how out of touch the security team at Microsoft is
    > > with the real world.
    > >
    > > First they push out Defender. Actually a good utility.
    > >
    > > Then, without telling anyone they add Defender functionality into
    > > LiveOneCare. It is designed to turn off Defender each time you boot. But
    > > you the user don't know that is going on and it looks like a worm has
    > > started to shut down your protection utilities. You panic and start to run
    > > virus and spyware scans, etc.
    > >
    > > Only by reading the Defender Teams blog did I learn what they had done.
    > > These folks need a real talking too.
    > >
    > > Richard.
    > >

    >


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  7. #6


    Shane Nokes Guest

    Re: Do I need Windows Defender or not?

    No problem Larry.

    I'll talk to one of the guys on the OneCare team and ask if they can see
    about fixing the UI inconsistency at least though


    "Larry E" <LarryE@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:EAA32B24-D8BC-4FD8-B57B-EFB66CAF9238@microsoft.com...
    > Thank you very much Shane. I think I'll delete it from the list too so
    > I'm
    > not tempted to start it up again. LOL
    >
    > "Shane Nokes" wrote:
    >
    >> What are you talking about?
    >>
    >> It doesn't turn off Defender, it merely integrates the functionality into
    >> the main interface of OneCare.
    >>
    >> Maybe you should complain about Norton.
    >>
    >> I install Norton Utilities and then went to Norton Systemworks.
    >>
    >> Now I've found that I can only access the utilities through the
    >> Systemworks
    >> interface.
    >>
    >> How dare they....see how moronic that sounds?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Richard" <rfeirste@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1307rlvb38pfqfe@corp.supernews.com...
    >> > Just goes to show you how out of touch the security team at Microsoft
    >> > is
    >> > with the real world.
    >> >
    >> > First they push out Defender. Actually a good utility.
    >> >
    >> > Then, without telling anyone they add Defender functionality into
    >> > LiveOneCare. It is designed to turn off Defender each time you boot.
    >> > But
    >> > you the user don't know that is going on and it looks like a worm has
    >> > started to shut down your protection utilities. You panic and start to
    >> > run
    >> > virus and spyware scans, etc.
    >> >
    >> > Only by reading the Defender Teams blog did I learn what they had done.
    >> > These folks need a real talking too.
    >> >
    >> > Richard.
    >> >

    >>


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