Vista - Windows Mail complaints

Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
"not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
(b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me deal
with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have Vista
Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul

I agree. Half the time I try to post about a bug in Vista (and I'm surprised
at the number I'm seeing in the UI; unfortunately, I can't recall a single
UI bug that MS has ever fixed in a hotfix or service pack...this is stuff
like focus being highly inconsistent and window sizes spontaneously),
Windows Main flat out hangs, and I lose my post. Other than that, it's OE
with all it's bad aspects. Only improvement for me (besides appearance) is
the option to turn off the New Newsgroups modal dialog that always pops up.

Here's another really annoying one: if you try to reply to someone directly
in WM, it will walk you through the entire email identity wizard before
telling you that WM no longer supports HTTP mail and dumping you out. Gotta
love that!

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
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> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore
> all",
> but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me
> deal
> with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have
> Vista
> Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
> just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul

You can ignore a word ONCE or you can ignore all those words in THAT email
and THAT email only.

If you want your spell check to think that word is OK all the time then you
need to ADD the word to your dictionary.

Click ADD.

There shouldn't be a delay when you click "Create Mail" - I don't have it.
An invisible but major improvement in WinMail is eradication of OE's flakey
quirk of losing all the emails every once in a while for this person or that one,
each of whom invariably never had the message store backed up. Why don't
you holler for help in the WinMail newsgroup? They may have suggestions:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
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> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
> but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me deal
> with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have Vista
> Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
> just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul
>

I never lost my mail with OE. Which is good as there were tens of thousands
of messages.
"Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eFvFr4qbHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> There shouldn't be a delay when you click "Create Mail" - I don't have it.
> An invisible but major improvement in WinMail is eradication of OE's
> flakey
> quirk of losing all the emails every once in a while for this person or
> that one,
> each of whom invariably never had the message store backed up. Why don't
> you holler for help in the WinMail newsgroup? They may have suggestions:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:eWFETMobHHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no
>> problems.
>> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts.
>> No
>> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for
>> up
>> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change
>> from
>> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email.
>> Also,
>> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore
>> all",
>> but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me
>> deal
>> with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have
>> Vista
>> Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
>> just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul
>>
>

I never lost mail either, but the "Help, all my messages are missing," was an
irritating frequent plea in the OE group because the messages were likely
unrecoverable - no help was possible. http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
furnishes some possibilities for recovery. The data structure in WinMail
has been completely redesigned to be considerably less brittle than OE's.

<.> wrote in message news:%23Xz0iirbHHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I never lost my mail with OE. Which is good as there were tens of thousands
> of messages.
>
> "Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eFvFr4qbHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> There shouldn't be a delay when you click "Create Mail" - I don't have it.
>> An invisible but major improvement in WinMail is eradication of OE's
>> flakey
>> quirk of losing all the emails every once in a while for this person or
>> that one,
>> each of whom invariably never had the message store backed up. Why don't
>> you holler for help in the WinMail newsgroup? They may have suggestions:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>>
>> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:eWFETMobHHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no
>>> problems.
>>> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts.
>>> No
>>> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for
>>> up
>>> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change
>>> from
>>> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email.
>>> Also,
>>> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore
>>> all",
>>> but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me
>>> deal
>>> with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have
>>> Vista
>>> Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
>>> just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul
>>>
>>
>

>There shouldn't be a delay when you click "Create Mail"

Well, there is for a lot users. I have been dealing with
this same problem since RC2. I have tried numerous things
to fix it. I think WinMail is beta junk. I am disappointed it was
ever allowed to be put in Vista in such condition.

Outlook Express never seemed this bad.


-Michael

"Michael Jennings" <metarhyme@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eFvFr4qbHHA.1388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> There shouldn't be a delay when you click "Create Mail" - I don't have it.
> An invisible but major improvement in WinMail is eradication of OE's flakey
> quirk of losing all the emails every once in a while for this person or that one,
> each of whom invariably never had the message store backed up. Why don't
> you holler for help in the WinMail newsgroup? They may have suggestions:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...ows.vista.mail
>
> "Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
> news:eWFETMobHHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
>> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
>> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
>> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
>> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
>> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
>> but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me deal
>> with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have Vista
>> Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
>> just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul
>>
>

"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:eWFETMobHHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
> but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me deal
> with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have Vista
> Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
> just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul

There is a "delay" for a lot of folks using Windows Mail when
composing and replying. I have seen this delay since RC2,
and not in any prior beta build.
Like you said, the window may pop up right away, but you can't do
anything for awhile. Do you also have a delay when you try
to highlight text in a reply window to cut or copy? I do.
This used to drive me crazy trying to figure out what the problem
was. I've tried numerous things. I have found that after having
WinMail open for about 30 minutes to an hour, the "delay" goes away.

I never thought I would say this, but Windows Mail is far worse than
Outlook Express ever was. I don't care what supposedly was done
to it to make it "better", but it really blows. I am amazed WinMail was
put into Vista in this condition. I really feel like I am using a beta product.
Pathetic is the only word I can muster to describe Windows Mail.

Luckily, I use Outlook for email and only use WinMail for newsgroups.


Take care,

Michael

the delay maybe caused by the size of your data store.
I do notice if I allow mine to stay large and NOT COMPACTED, WM seems to slow down a bit.

mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message news:eWFETMobHHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no problems.
I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts. No
problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for up
to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
"not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
(b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore all",
but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me deal
with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have Vista
Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul

Thanks MICHAEL. I do also have a delay when I click on "To" or "Cc:", etc.
One more annoying characteristic. But I'm most annoyed by the "Ignore all"
bug.


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
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"Paul H" <NoSpamphobergNoSpam@att.net> wrote in message
news:eWFETMobHHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Windows Mail is driving me crazy. I used OE on my XP Pro, with no
> problems.
> I successfully moved my folders to Windows Mail, and set up the accounts.
> No
> problem. But (a) When I click "Create Mail", I sometimes have to wait for
> up
> to a minute for the window, which does come up immediately, to change from
> "not responding" to a state that lets me begin to compose the email. Also,
> (b) After a spell check, OE remembered the words I told it to "Ignore
> all",
> but now every subsequent spell check, including when I "Send" makes me
> deal
> with the words again. Not "show-stoppers", but super annoying. I have
> Vista
> Home Premium on a very fast laptop. Anyone have a solution, or are these
> just bugs I have to live with until they are fixed? Thanks, Paul

There is a "delay" for a lot of folks using Windows Mail when
composing and replying. I have seen this delay since RC2,
and not in any prior beta build.
Like you said, the window may pop up right away, but you can't do
anything for awhile. Do you also have a delay when you try
to highlight text in a reply window to cut or copy? I do.
This used to drive me crazy trying to figure out what the problem
was. I've tried numerous things. I have found that after having
WinMail open for about 30 minutes to an hour, the "delay" goes away.

I never thought I would say this, but Windows Mail is far worse than
Outlook Express ever was. I don't care what supposedly was done
to it to make it "better", but it really blows. I am amazed WinMail was
put into Vista in this condition. I really feel like I am using a beta
product.
Pathetic is the only word I can muster to describe Windows Mail.

Luckily, I use Outlook for email and only use WinMail for newsgroups.


Take care,

Michael