Vista - Visual task tips for xp (like vista) (free)

kirk jim wrote:
> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>
> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.
>
> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make xp
> do whatever vista can....
>
> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has but
> do not want
> or can not upgrade,
>
> or
>
> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>
> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>
> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list

Horses for courses I guess, but I wish I could run the Zune theme on
vista. lol

http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)

this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.

If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make xp
do whatever vista can....

This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has but
do not want
or can not upgrade,

or

those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.

Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
but I am always interested in trying things out.

So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
.....

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:01:22 +0000, Isaac Hunt wrote:

> kirk jim wrote:
>> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>>
>> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
>> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.
>>
>> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make xp
>> do whatever vista can....
>>
>> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has but
>> do not want
>> or can not upgrade,
>>
>> or
>>
>> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
>> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>>
>> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
>> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>>
>> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
>
> Horses for courses I guess, but I wish I could run the Zune theme on
> vista. lol

Many people just wish they could RUN something on Vista. Anything. At all.


--
If Bill Gates had a penny for every time a Windows box
crashed....Oh, wait a minute, he already does.

Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista can, or
is this just a list of visual enhancements?


"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:%23zvy13tbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>
> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.
>
> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make xp
> do whatever vista can....
>
> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has
> but do not want
> or can not upgrade,
>
> or
>
> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>
> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>
> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
> ....
>
>
>

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

solitaire ?

that runs ;-)



"Stutterer" <stutter@jibber-jabber.us> wrote in message
newsan.2007.03.25.14.16.53.42944@jibber-jabber.us...
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:01:22 +0000, Isaac Hunt wrote:
>
>> kirk jim wrote:
>>> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>>>
>>> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
>>> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make
>>> xp
>>> do whatever vista can....
>>>
>>> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has
>>> but
>>> do not want
>>> or can not upgrade,
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
>>> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>>>
>>> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
>>> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>>>
>>> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
>>
>> Horses for courses I guess, but I wish I could run the Zune theme on
>> vista. lol
>
> Many people just wish they could RUN something on Vista. Anything. At all.
>
>
> --
> If Bill Gates had a penny for every time a Windows box
> crashed....Oh, wait a minute, he already does.
>

> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista can,
> or is this just a list of visual enhancements?

Mike.. The way you state your question implies that vista actually is better
at memory handling that XP is.

I disagree.

I remember applications back on windows 95 that does what superfetch does
now for vista.... and that was with 8-16 mb of ram... lol. Not only did
thos programs learn by themselves, but you could actually select which
programs would be accelerated, something that prefetch does only
automatically.

Of course they did not catch on with so little ram then and they have been
forgotten.

The thing is Vista tries to tell us this is a revolution. Its an old
concept,
and many have done it... if you look around there are apps that do the same
thing for XP, but you know what? I always hated them....

I turn prefetch off on XP, and superfetch off on vista.

These features may be ok for most people, but not for me.

There are no REAL improvements in memory that vista has over XP, since both
due to 32 bit limitations (if that's what we are talking about and not 64
bit), you cant have more than 4 gigs...

DO you have something in mind that I may not know? Perhaps something about
the new kernel?
Please provide links so I can see any information relative to this.

On my tests I have seen that vista degrades considerably the performance of
a computer you install it on compared to xp on the SAME machine. And I have
tested 6 different machines now ... tested them in detail.. Why did I do
these tests? Well because people kept saying that vista is faster... well
sorry guys..
its not faster... it has faster boot and shut down, but that's it.

What I would love to do, but cant... would to have 2 machines side by side
and record them on a camcorder,
one with XP and one with vista. I cant do this because I don't have 2
identical machines. I would to all imaginable tests
and see visually the response time of each OS. Benchmark apps have their
limitations, and they dont really show
the reaction of the computer in real world computing habbits.

And the readyboost is a good feature for low memory systems that have under
1 gig... but if you have 1+ gigs you wont see any difference with
readyboost.

I advise people to not use vista with less than 1 gig minimum anyway... 2 is
better.

However this is all a big waste of time.... by the time I needed to write
this post, the level of technology for CPU speed has already increased...
lol Intel wants to have 100 core cpus in 5 years.

On that kind of a machine, even vista will run fast <g>






"Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OfL0szubHHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista can,
> or is this just a list of visual enhancements?
>
>
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:%23zvy13tbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>>
>> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
>> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.
>>
>> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make xp
>> do whatever vista can....
>>
>> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has
>> but do not want
>> or can not upgrade,
>>
>> or
>>
>> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
>> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>>
>> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
>> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>>
>> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
>> ....
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> Mike Hall
> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>
>
>

You must have an underpowered computer. PCMag released a taskbar for 3.1.
"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:%23zvy13tbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>
> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.
>
> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make xp
> do whatever vista can....
>
> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has
> but do not want
> or can not upgrade,
>
> or
>
> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>
> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>
> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
> ....
>
>
>

XP can use more than 4mb of memory. It has modes. I think it can use up to
16 GB of installed memory.
"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:%23qvapDvbHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista can,
>> or is this just a list of visual enhancements?
>
> Mike.. The way you state your question implies that vista actually is
> better at memory handling that XP is.
>
> I disagree.
>
> I remember applications back on windows 95 that does what superfetch does
> now for vista.... and that was with 8-16 mb of ram... lol. Not only did
> thos programs learn by themselves, but you could actually select which
> programs would be accelerated, something that prefetch does only
> automatically.
>
> Of course they did not catch on with so little ram then and they have been
> forgotten.
>
> The thing is Vista tries to tell us this is a revolution. Its an old
> concept,
> and many have done it... if you look around there are apps that do the
> same thing for XP, but you know what? I always hated them....
>
> I turn prefetch off on XP, and superfetch off on vista.
>
> These features may be ok for most people, but not for me.
>
> There are no REAL improvements in memory that vista has over XP, since
> both due to 32 bit limitations (if that's what we are talking about and
> not 64 bit), you cant have more than 4 gigs...
>
> DO you have something in mind that I may not know? Perhaps something about
> the new kernel?
> Please provide links so I can see any information relative to this.
>
> On my tests I have seen that vista degrades considerably the performance
> of a computer you install it on compared to xp on the SAME machine. And I
> have tested 6 different machines now ... tested them in detail.. Why did I
> do these tests? Well because people kept saying that vista is faster...
> well sorry guys..
> its not faster... it has faster boot and shut down, but that's it.
>
> What I would love to do, but cant... would to have 2 machines side by side
> and record them on a camcorder,
> one with XP and one with vista. I cant do this because I don't have 2
> identical machines. I would to all imaginable tests
> and see visually the response time of each OS. Benchmark apps have their
> limitations, and they dont really show
> the reaction of the computer in real world computing habbits.
>
> And the readyboost is a good feature for low memory systems that have
> under 1 gig... but if you have 1+ gigs you wont see any difference with
> readyboost.
>
> I advise people to not use vista with less than 1 gig minimum anyway... 2
> is better.
>
> However this is all a big waste of time.... by the time I needed to write
> this post, the level of technology for CPU speed has already increased...
> lol Intel wants to have 100 core cpus in 5 years.
>
> On that kind of a machine, even vista will run fast <g>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OfL0szubHHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista can,
>> or is this just a list of visual enhancements?
>>
>>
>> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
>> news:%23zvy13tbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>>>
>>> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
>>> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this out.
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make
>>> xp
>>> do whatever vista can....
>>>
>>> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista has
>>> but do not want
>>> or can not upgrade,
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
>>> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>>>
>>> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
>>> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>>>
>>> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
>>> ....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Mike Hall
>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Windows has many memory modes. One mode allows up to 16 GB of main memory.
Another allows applications to access many GB of memory. And there are
others. Any restrictions are marketing based.

Because programs can implement Virtual memory (seperate to windows memory
management). The hardware can use PAE (up to 16GB of memory).

Modes, modes, and more modes.

If you wish to be critical then you should take aim at the criminals in MS
marketing dept.


"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
news:eixvN0vbHHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It is a mathematical limitation of 32bit...
>
> no OS that is 32 bit can use more ram...
>
> perhaps there will be some workaround sometime... but I dont know of any
>
>
> <.> wrote in message news:ujmt5qvbHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> XP can use more than 4mb of memory. It has modes. I think it can use up
>> to 16 GB of installed memory.
>> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
>> news:%23qvapDvbHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista
>>>> can, or is this just a list of visual enhancements?
>>>
>>> Mike.. The way you state your question implies that vista actually is
>>> better at memory handling that XP is.
>>>
>>> I disagree.
>>>
>>> I remember applications back on windows 95 that does what superfetch
>>> does now for vista.... and that was with 8-16 mb of ram... lol. Not
>>> only did thos programs learn by themselves, but you could actually
>>> select which programs would be accelerated, something that prefetch does
>>> only automatically.
>>>
>>> Of course they did not catch on with so little ram then and they have
>>> been forgotten.
>>>
>>> The thing is Vista tries to tell us this is a revolution. Its an old
>>> concept,
>>> and many have done it... if you look around there are apps that do the
>>> same thing for XP, but you know what? I always hated them....
>>>
>>> I turn prefetch off on XP, and superfetch off on vista.
>>>
>>> These features may be ok for most people, but not for me.
>>>
>>> There are no REAL improvements in memory that vista has over XP, since
>>> both due to 32 bit limitations (if that's what we are talking about and
>>> not 64 bit), you cant have more than 4 gigs...
>>>
>>> DO you have something in mind that I may not know? Perhaps something
>>> about the new kernel?
>>> Please provide links so I can see any information relative to this.
>>>
>>> On my tests I have seen that vista degrades considerably the performance
>>> of a computer you install it on compared to xp on the SAME machine. And
>>> I have tested 6 different machines now ... tested them in detail.. Why
>>> did I do these tests? Well because people kept saying that vista is
>>> faster... well sorry guys..
>>> its not faster... it has faster boot and shut down, but that's it.
>>>
>>> What I would love to do, but cant... would to have 2 machines side by
>>> side and record them on a camcorder,
>>> one with XP and one with vista. I cant do this because I don't have 2
>>> identical machines. I would to all imaginable tests
>>> and see visually the response time of each OS. Benchmark apps have their
>>> limitations, and they dont really show
>>> the reaction of the computer in real world computing habbits.
>>>
>>> And the readyboost is a good feature for low memory systems that have
>>> under 1 gig... but if you have 1+ gigs you wont see any difference with
>>> readyboost.
>>>
>>> I advise people to not use vista with less than 1 gig minimum anyway...
>>> 2 is better.
>>>
>>> However this is all a big waste of time.... by the time I needed to
>>> write this post, the level of technology for CPU speed has already
>>> increased... lol Intel wants to have 100 core cpus in 5 years.
>>>
>>> On that kind of a machine, even vista will run fast <g>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:OfL0szubHHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista
>>>> can, or is this just a list of visual enhancements?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23zvy13tbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>>>>>
>>>>> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
>>>>> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this
>>>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make
>>>>> xp
>>>>> do whatever vista can....
>>>>>
>>>>> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista
>>>>> has but do not want
>>>>> or can not upgrade,
>>>>>
>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
>>>>> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
>>>>> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
>>>>> ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Hall
>>>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

It is a mathematical limitation of 32bit...

no OS that is 32 bit can use more ram...

perhaps there will be some workaround sometime... but I dont know of any


<.> wrote in message news:ujmt5qvbHHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> XP can use more than 4mb of memory. It has modes. I think it can use up to
> 16 GB of installed memory.
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:%23qvapDvbHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista
>>> can, or is this just a list of visual enhancements?
>>
>> Mike.. The way you state your question implies that vista actually is
>> better at memory handling that XP is.
>>
>> I disagree.
>>
>> I remember applications back on windows 95 that does what superfetch does
>> now for vista.... and that was with 8-16 mb of ram... lol. Not only did
>> thos programs learn by themselves, but you could actually select which
>> programs would be accelerated, something that prefetch does only
>> automatically.
>>
>> Of course they did not catch on with so little ram then and they have
>> been forgotten.
>>
>> The thing is Vista tries to tell us this is a revolution. Its an old
>> concept,
>> and many have done it... if you look around there are apps that do the
>> same thing for XP, but you know what? I always hated them....
>>
>> I turn prefetch off on XP, and superfetch off on vista.
>>
>> These features may be ok for most people, but not for me.
>>
>> There are no REAL improvements in memory that vista has over XP, since
>> both due to 32 bit limitations (if that's what we are talking about and
>> not 64 bit), you cant have more than 4 gigs...
>>
>> DO you have something in mind that I may not know? Perhaps something
>> about the new kernel?
>> Please provide links so I can see any information relative to this.
>>
>> On my tests I have seen that vista degrades considerably the performance
>> of a computer you install it on compared to xp on the SAME machine. And I
>> have tested 6 different machines now ... tested them in detail.. Why did
>> I do these tests? Well because people kept saying that vista is faster...
>> well sorry guys..
>> its not faster... it has faster boot and shut down, but that's it.
>>
>> What I would love to do, but cant... would to have 2 machines side by
>> side and record them on a camcorder,
>> one with XP and one with vista. I cant do this because I don't have 2
>> identical machines. I would to all imaginable tests
>> and see visually the response time of each OS. Benchmark apps have their
>> limitations, and they dont really show
>> the reaction of the computer in real world computing habbits.
>>
>> And the readyboost is a good feature for low memory systems that have
>> under 1 gig... but if you have 1+ gigs you wont see any difference with
>> readyboost.
>>
>> I advise people to not use vista with less than 1 gig minimum anyway... 2
>> is better.
>>
>> However this is all a big waste of time.... by the time I needed to write
>> this post, the level of technology for CPU speed has already increased...
>> lol Intel wants to have 100 core cpus in 5 years.
>>
>> On that kind of a machine, even vista will run fast <g>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MS MVP" <mikehall@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OfL0szubHHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Do you have one that will make XP use memory as efficiently as Vista
>>> can, or is this just a list of visual enhancements?
>>>
>>>
>>> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
>>> news:%23zvy13tbHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> http://www.visualtasktips.com/ (free)
>>>>
>>>> this effect is something they added in the vista shell...
>>>> If you are running xp and want to have this effect you can try this
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is interested... I have a list of applications that can make
>>>> xp
>>>> do whatever vista can....
>>>>
>>>> This is good for people who are running XP and may want things vista
>>>> has but do not want
>>>> or can not upgrade,
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> those who use vista and xp on different machines, and when they go
>>>> to the xp machine they feel that it lacks features.
>>>>
>>>> Personally I don't like effects and use a classic theme for speed...
>>>> but I am always interested in trying things out.
>>>>
>>>> So if anyone is interested reply to this post and I will make the list
>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Hall
>>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>