Vista - backups, restore points

Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and are
separate from Backups?

In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D: drive,
the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?

(If this is a dumb question feel free to educate me.)

> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and are
> separate from Backups?
Plus other system files essential for proper system operation.
>
> In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D:
> drive, the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?

yes, but usually backups include data not recovered with System Restore.

I should also add that I needed to try a system restore yesterday due to a
problem, and all 7 system restore points failed due to an 'unknown error'
About 2 weeks ago, one worked and solved a problem. I personally feel that
one should use both backups and the restore points.

"Dave Horne" <dave.horne@home.nl> wrote in message
news:evGzGe5bHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and are
> separate from Backups?
>
> In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D:
> drive, the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?
>
> (If this is a dumb question feel free to educate me.)

Dave

Go to Start/Help and Support. Search for "System Protection."

Click the "System Restore Frequently Asked Questions" in the results. This
will give you a good description of SR, how it works and how to use it.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Dave Horne" <dave.horne@home.nl> wrote in message
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> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and are
> separate from Backups?
>
> In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D:
> drive, the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?
>
> (If this is a dumb question feel free to educate me.)

Dave Horne wrote:

> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry?


Yes, and other important operating system files.


> .... and
> are separate from Backups?


Yes. When someone talks about a backup, he normally means either a backup of
his data, or an image of his entire hard drive. Either of those is very
different from what System Restore does.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Hi John,

Are there any Norton applications installed?

System Restore fails to restore in Windows Vista:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/ssrfailsv.html

Missing Restore Points/Shadow Copies in Windows Vista:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrpv.html

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org


John Barnes wrote:
> I should also add that I needed to try a system restore yesterday due to
> a problem, and all 7 system restore points failed due to an 'unknown error'
> About 2 weeks ago, one worked and solved a problem. I personally feel
> that one should use both backups and the restore points.
>
> "Dave Horne" <dave.horne@home.nl> wrote in message
> news:evGzGe5bHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and
>> are separate from Backups?
>>
>> In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D:
>> drive, the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?
>>
>> (If this is a dumb question feel free to educate me.)
>

Absolutely not. I haven't had any Norton product on my computer. I did
have Ghost on a previous computer but no other Norton products will ever be
on my computers. Ghost was just Drive Image relabeled at that point.
There were 7 normal restore points plus the undo restore point from my
networking restore problem. None of the seven worked. All seemed to work
until reboot when a message appeared that nothing had been changed due to
'an unknown error'

"Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:%235kO4KOcHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi John,
>
> Are there any Norton applications installed?
>
> System Restore fails to restore in Windows Vista:
> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/ssrfailsv.html
>
> Missing Restore Points/Shadow Copies in Windows Vista:
> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrpv.html
>
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://bertk.mvps.org
> Member: http://dts-l.org
>
>
> John Barnes wrote:
>> I should also add that I needed to try a system restore yesterday due to
>> a problem, and all 7 system restore points failed due to an 'unknown
>> error'
>> About 2 weeks ago, one worked and solved a problem. I personally feel
>> that one should use both backups and the restore points.
>>
>> "Dave Horne" <dave.horne@home.nl> wrote in message
>> news:evGzGe5bHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and
>>> are separate from Backups?
>>>
>>> In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D:
>>> drive, the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?
>>>
>>> (If this is a dumb question feel free to educate me.)
>>

Ghost?when you use SATA HD,you must boot Windows by Vista CD with fix
computer.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> ????
news:Oer%23CGVcHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Absolutely not. I haven't had any Norton product on my computer. I did
> have Ghost on a previous computer but no other Norton products will ever
> be on my computers. Ghost was just Drive Image relabeled at that point.
> There were 7 normal restore points plus the undo restore point from my
> networking restore problem. None of the seven worked. All seemed to work
> until reboot when a message appeared that nothing had been changed due to
> 'an unknown error'
>
> "Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%235kO4KOcHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Are there any Norton applications installed?
>>
>> System Restore fails to restore in Windows Vista:
>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/ssrfailsv.html
>>
>> Missing Restore Points/Shadow Copies in Windows Vista:
>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrpv.html
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://bertk.mvps.org
>> Member: http://dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> John Barnes wrote:
>>> I should also add that I needed to try a system restore yesterday due to
>>> a problem, and all 7 system restore points failed due to an 'unknown
>>> error'
>>> About 2 weeks ago, one worked and solved a problem. I personally feel
>>> that one should use both backups and the restore points.
>>>
>>> "Dave Horne" <dave.horne@home.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:evGzGe5bHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and
>>>> are separate from Backups?
>>>>
>>>> In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D:
>>>> drive, the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?
>>>>
>>>> (If this is a dumb question feel free to educate me.)
>>>
>

????????????????

"Qoli" <llqoli@MSN.com> wrote in message
news:9A661789-5F63-4778-AD39-5205FDCFC381@microsoft.com...
> Ghost?when you use SATA HD,you must boot Windows by Vista CD with fix
> computer.
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> ????
> news:Oer%23CGVcHHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Absolutely not. I haven't had any Norton product on my computer. I did
>> have Ghost on a previous computer but no other Norton products will ever
>> be on my computers. Ghost was just Drive Image relabeled at that point.
>> There were 7 normal restore points plus the undo restore point from my
>> networking restore problem. None of the seven worked. All seemed to
>> work until reboot when a message appeared that nothing had been changed
>> due to 'an unknown error'
>>
>> "Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%235kO4KOcHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Are there any Norton applications installed?
>>>
>>> System Restore fails to restore in Windows Vista:
>>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/ssrfailsv.html
>>>
>>> Missing Restore Points/Shadow Copies in Windows Vista:
>>> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/missingrpv.html
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://bertk.mvps.org
>>> Member: http://dts-l.org
>>>
>>>
>>> John Barnes wrote:
>>>> I should also add that I needed to try a system restore yesterday due
>>>> to a problem, and all 7 system restore points failed due to an 'unknown
>>>> error'
>>>> About 2 weeks ago, one worked and solved a problem. I personally feel
>>>> that one should use both backups and the restore points.
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Horne" <dave.horne@home.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:evGzGe5bHHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Are restore points basically a copy of the entire Registry? .... and
>>>>> are separate from Backups?
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, if I deleted all the backups stored on my Recovery D:
>>>>> drive, the 'restore points' are still on drive D, correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> (If this is a dumb question feel free to educate me.)
>>>>
>>
>