Vista - Roll back to XP

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:41:46 -0700, "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote:

>"Terry" <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
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>
>> His convoluted statements cause him to have to defend himself. Then he
>> quickly reverts to name calling. Justin is one of those little men driving
>> a raised 4x4 truck three feet off the ground so he can feel like a man.
>> He'd never be able to say to someone's face what he types. Hiding behind a
>> keyboard is just so small...
>
>Revert? You acted like a fool so I called you on it. However, to this
>point you have failed to address your own mouth. Care you try again?

Something for Justin to consider since he never "gets" what other
people think of him.

Proverbs 17:28 "Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted
wise and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

Or a more modern maxim, often credited to Mark Twain, but he never
said it is the following which many scholars suggest has roots in the
above bibical proberb.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open
your mouth and remove all doubt".

Do try to remember for the future reference Justin.

Terry" <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:eyzkwtxcHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> His convoluted statements cause him to have to defend himself. Then he
> quickly reverts to name calling. Justin is one of those little men driving
> a raised 4x4 truck three feet off the ground so he can feel like a man.
> He'd never be able to say to someone's face what he types. Hiding behind a
> keyboard is just so small...

Revert? You acted like a fool so I called you on it. However, to this
point you have failed to address your own mouth. Care you try again?


_______________________________________

I knew you couldn't do it. So I guess you are a fool. You talk a lot of
talk but it never means anything real. You make claims that do not exist
and you can't backup your own mouth. Unless you would like to try again?

I'll tell you what! I'll take "fool" back once you post PROOF (quotes from
me) where I claim I will upgrade EVERY MACHINE in my business and where I
claim Vista as the "end all".

If you can't do that then you are the fool I claim you are.
_______________________________________


Again terry, you made very specific claims of what I said. If you don't
like the term fool then maybe you prefer LIAR?

On 3/30/2007 4:14 PM On a whim, Adam Albright pounded out on the keyboard

> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:41:46 -0700, "Justin" <None@None.com> wrote:
>
>> "Terry" <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
>> news:eyzkwtxcHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> His convoluted statements cause him to have to defend himself. Then he
>>> quickly reverts to name calling. Justin is one of those little men driving
>>> a raised 4x4 truck three feet off the ground so he can feel like a man.
>>> He'd never be able to say to someone's face what he types. Hiding behind a
>>> keyboard is just so small...
>> Revert? You acted like a fool so I called you on it. However, to this
>> point you have failed to address your own mouth. Care you try again?
>
> Something for Justin to consider since he never "gets" what other
> people think of him.
>
> Proverbs 17:28 "Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted
> wise and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
>
> Or a more modern maxim, often credited to Mark Twain, but he never
> said it is the following which many scholars suggest has roots in the
> above bibical proberb.
>
> "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open
> your mouth and remove all doubt".
>
> Do try to remember for the future reference Justin.
>
>

We could only hope he would actually read and comprehend what you
quoted. But I had to plonk him after he started in with calling me a
fool and a liar and defending his helical statements.

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"Terry" <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> We could only hope he would actually read and comprehend what you quoted.
> But I had to plonk him after he started in with calling me a fool and a
> liar and defending his helical statements.

That's because you are a liar. In another thread you claim you plonked me
yesterday yet you replied to me today?

What do you think a liar is? You just made a bold faced lie. Unless you
plonked me then unplonked me then plonked me?

Make up your mind!

You are also a liar because you claimed I said very specific things. Yet
when asked, you COULD NOT back up those claims with proof.

Thus, you lied.

If you have a problem with being a liar then maybe you should stop lying.
That makes sense.

Since you probably do not remember here are your lies:


"Terry" <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
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>> The wisest thing you can do is plonk him, which I just did.
>
> Did the same yesterday myself.
>
> --
> Terry

If you did it yesterday then how did you reply to me today?



Terry" <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message

>> And I'm not trying to persuade anyone away from Vista. That clearly
>> doesn't need my input at all. But we don't need you getting on your
>> pedestal and claiming Vista as the "end all" either. Because it's far
>> from it.
>
> You really are a fool. I never claimed Vista was "end all". You can take
> your exaggerations and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
>
> I'll tell you what! I'll take "fool" back once you post PROOF (quotes
> from me) where I claim I will upgrade EVERY MACHINE in my business and
> where I claim Vista as the "end all".
>
> If you can't do that then you are the fool I claim you are.

Lol, I wish. Thanks for asking. Yeah I been out for a bit, had surgery but
things are coming along.

I hear you on Colin. I haven't seen a post by him in ages, well before I
stopped out at the beginning of March.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote
> Where have you been? You and Colin been fishing? :-)
> Haven't seen Colin in a long time.

> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>> Replace every few years? XP has been out for 6 years. That's one of the
>> longest intervals between OS releases.
>>
>> "TK" <tk@home.com> wrote
>>> Xp runs so good for people I know they don't see a need to upgrade.
>>> I think people are getting tired of having to replace
>>> hardware/software/OS
>>> every few years maybe. I know I am and Vista doesn't bring enough to the
>>> plate
>>> to make an upgrade worthwhile.
>>>
>>> Having said that I do realize in another 2-3 years Vista may be truly
>>> ready and maybe by
>>> then Microsoft will realize it's overpriced.
>>>
>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>> So your saying, rather than develop new technologies, Microsoft's main
>>>> goal with new OS's should be to make sure it's backwards compatible
>>>> with all apps? What would be the point of releasing a new OS then?
>>
>>>> "Billy" <bigbill52a@slapsoap.com> wrote
>>>>>I really dont think that it is too much to ask that the majority of
>>>>> progams that worked in XP should also work in Vista. When I upgraded
>>>>> from
>>>>> 2000 to XP, the only programs that didnt work in both were the
>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>> toys that were designed specifically for XP. An operating system
>>>>> should
>>>>> be written to accommodate the customers needs. Otherwise it is a
>>>>> useless
>>>>> toy, and in the case of Vista, a broken toy.
>>
>>>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:32:36 -0700, Justin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "IanB" <IanB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Having installed Vista I find that is does not work with: 1. Our
>>>>>>> accounts system - Sage
>>>>>>> 2. Our CRM system - ACT!
>>>>>>> 3. Our shopping cart system - Actinic 4. Our design package - Quark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could have found all that out before upgrading to Vista. MAS90
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> MAS200 are not ready for Vista.

Glad you're back. Hope you have a speedy recovery.

I finally heard from Colin. He's also recovering from
a health related issue. Hopefully, he pops in soon, too.


Take care,

Michael

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message news:e6x0%23W$cHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Lol, I wish. Thanks for asking. Yeah I been out for a bit, had surgery but
> things are coming along.
>
> I hear you on Colin. I haven't seen a post by him in ages, well before I
> stopped out at the beginning of March.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote
>> Where have you been? You and Colin been fishing? :-)
>> Haven't seen Colin in a long time.
>
>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>>> Replace every few years? XP has been out for 6 years. That's one of the
>>> longest intervals between OS releases.
>>>
>>> "TK" <tk@home.com> wrote
>>>> Xp runs so good for people I know they don't see a need to upgrade.
>>>> I think people are getting tired of having to replace
>>>> hardware/software/OS
>>>> every few years maybe. I know I am and Vista doesn't bring enough to the
>>>> plate
>>>> to make an upgrade worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that I do realize in another 2-3 years Vista may be truly
>>>> ready and maybe by
>>>> then Microsoft will realize it's overpriced.
>>>>
>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>> So your saying, rather than develop new technologies, Microsoft's main
>>>>> goal with new OS's should be to make sure it's backwards compatible
>>>>> with all apps? What would be the point of releasing a new OS then?
>>>
>>>>> "Billy" <bigbill52a@slapsoap.com> wrote
>>>>>>I really dont think that it is too much to ask that the majority of
>>>>>> progams that worked in XP should also work in Vista. When I upgraded
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> 2000 to XP, the only programs that didnt work in both were the
>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>> toys that were designed specifically for XP. An operating system
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be written to accommodate the customers needs. Otherwise it is a
>>>>>> useless
>>>>>> toy, and in the case of Vista, a broken toy.
>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:32:36 -0700, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "IanB" <IanB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Having installed Vista I find that is does not work with: 1. Our
>>>>>>>> accounts system - Sage
>>>>>>>> 2. Our CRM system - ACT!
>>>>>>>> 3. Our shopping cart system - Actinic 4. Our design package - Quark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could have found all that out before upgrading to Vista. MAS90
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> MAS200 are not ready for Vista.
>

This newsgroup has become more and more a pissing contest between trolls.
Maybe Rock and Colin would be better off not to look at the crap.
I mean, is there a maximum on the junkmail filters in Windows Mail? :-)

BTW, glad you're doing better, Rock.


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
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> Glad you're back. Hope you have a speedy recovery.
>
> I finally heard from Colin. He's also recovering from
> a health related issue. Hopefully, he pops in soon, too.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Michael
>
> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:e6x0%23W$cHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Lol, I wish. Thanks for asking. Yeah I been out for a bit, had surgery
>> but things are coming along.
>>
>> I hear you on Colin. I haven't seen a post by him in ages, well before I
>> stopped out at the beginning of March.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote
>>> Where have you been? You and Colin been fishing? :-)
>>> Haven't seen Colin in a long time.
>>
>>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>>>> Replace every few years? XP has been out for 6 years. That's one of
>>>> the longest intervals between OS releases.
>>>>
>>>> "TK" <tk@home.com> wrote
>>>>> Xp runs so good for people I know they don't see a need to upgrade.
>>>>> I think people are getting tired of having to replace
>>>>> hardware/software/OS
>>>>> every few years maybe. I know I am and Vista doesn't bring enough to
>>>>> the plate
>>>>> to make an upgrade worthwhile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that I do realize in another 2-3 years Vista may be truly
>>>>> ready and maybe by
>>>>> then Microsoft will realize it's overpriced.
>>>>>
>>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> So your saying, rather than develop new technologies, Microsoft's
>>>>>> main goal with new OS's should be to make sure it's backwards
>>>>>> compatible with all apps? What would be the point of releasing a new
>>>>>> OS then?
>>>>
>>>>>> "Billy" <bigbill52a@slapsoap.com> wrote
>>>>>>>I really dont think that it is too much to ask that the majority of
>>>>>>> progams that worked in XP should also work in Vista. When I upgraded
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> 2000 to XP, the only programs that didnt work in both were the
>>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>>> toys that were designed specifically for XP. An operating system
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be written to accommodate the customers needs. Otherwise it is a
>>>>>>> useless
>>>>>>> toy, and in the case of Vista, a broken toy.
>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:32:36 -0700, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "IanB" <IanB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Having installed Vista I find that is does not work with: 1. Our
>>>>>>>>> accounts system - Sage
>>>>>>>>> 2. Our CRM system - ACT!
>>>>>>>>> 3. Our shopping cart system - Actinic 4. Our design package -
>>>>>>>>> Quark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could have found all that out before upgrading to Vista. MAS90
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> MAS200 are not ready for Vista.
>>

Hey thanks,
--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Thor" <valhalla@sweden.comm> wrote
> This newsgroup has become more and more a pissing contest between trolls.
> Maybe Rock and Colin would be better off not to look at the crap.
> I mean, is there a maximum on the junkmail filters in Windows Mail? :-)
>
> BTW, glad you're doing better, Rock.
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:%23PG1EMBdHHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Glad you're back. Hope you have a speedy recovery.
>>
>> I finally heard from Colin. He's also recovering from
>> a health related issue. Hopefully, he pops in soon, too.
>>
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:e6x0%23W$cHHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Lol, I wish. Thanks for asking. Yeah I been out for a bit, had surgery
>>> but things are coming along.
>>>
>>> I hear you on Colin. I haven't seen a post by him in ages, well before
>>> I stopped out at the beginning of March.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>>>
>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote
>>>> Where have you been? You and Colin been fishing? :-)
>>>> Haven't seen Colin in a long time.
>>>
>>>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>>>>> Replace every few years? XP has been out for 6 years. That's one of
>>>>> the longest intervals between OS releases.
>>>>>
>>>>> "TK" <tk@home.com> wrote
>>>>>> Xp runs so good for people I know they don't see a need to upgrade.
>>>>>> I think people are getting tired of having to replace
>>>>>> hardware/software/OS
>>>>>> every few years maybe. I know I am and Vista doesn't bring enough to
>>>>>> the plate
>>>>>> to make an upgrade worthwhile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having said that I do realize in another 2-3 years Vista may be truly
>>>>>> ready and maybe by
>>>>>> then Microsoft will realize it's overpriced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So your saying, rather than develop new technologies, Microsoft's
>>>>>>> main goal with new OS's should be to make sure it's backwards
>>>>>>> compatible with all apps? What would be the point of releasing a new
>>>>>>> OS then?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Billy" <bigbill52a@slapsoap.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>I really dont think that it is too much to ask that the majority of
>>>>>>>> progams that worked in XP should also work in Vista. When I
>>>>>>>> upgraded from
>>>>>>>> 2000 to XP, the only programs that didnt work in both were the
>>>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>>>> toys that were designed specifically for XP. An operating system
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be written to accommodate the customers needs. Otherwise it is a
>>>>>>>> useless
>>>>>>>> toy, and in the case of Vista, a broken toy.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:32:36 -0700, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "IanB" <IanB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Having installed Vista I find that is does not work with: 1. Our
>>>>>>>>>> accounts system - Sage
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Our CRM system - ACT!
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Our shopping cart system - Actinic 4. Our design package -
>>>>>>>>>> Quark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You could have found all that out before upgrading to Vista.
>>>>>>>>> MAS90 and
>>>>>>>>> MAS200 are not ready for Vista.

Thanks Michael. I thought it might be something like that for Colin, the
way he disappeared so suddenly. Hope he's back soon too.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote
> Glad you're back. Hope you have a speedy recovery.
>
> I finally heard from Colin. He's also recovering from
> a health related issue. Hopefully, he pops in soon, too.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Michael

> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>>
>> Lol, I wish. Thanks for asking. Yeah I been out for a bit, had surgery
>> but things are coming along.
>>
>> I hear you on Colin. I haven't seen a post by him in ages, well before I
>> stopped out at the beginning of March.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote
>>> Where have you been? You and Colin been fishing? :-)
>>> Haven't seen Colin in a long time.
>>
>>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>>>> Replace every few years? XP has been out for 6 years. That's one of
>>>> the longest intervals between OS releases.
>>>>
>>>> "TK" <tk@home.com> wrote
>>>>> Xp runs so good for people I know they don't see a need to upgrade.
>>>>> I think people are getting tired of having to replace
>>>>> hardware/software/OS
>>>>> every few years maybe. I know I am and Vista doesn't bring enough to
>>>>> the plate
>>>>> to make an upgrade worthwhile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that I do realize in another 2-3 years Vista may be truly
>>>>> ready and maybe by
>>>>> then Microsoft will realize it's overpriced.
>>>>>
>>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> So your saying, rather than develop new technologies, Microsoft's
>>>>>> main goal with new OS's should be to make sure it's backwards
>>>>>> compatible with all apps? What would be the point of releasing a new
>>>>>> OS then?
>>>>
>>>>>> "Billy" <bigbill52a@slapsoap.com> wrote
>>>>>>>I really dont think that it is too much to ask that the majority of
>>>>>>> progams that worked in XP should also work in Vista. When I upgraded
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> 2000 to XP, the only programs that didnt work in both were the
>>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>>> toys that were designed specifically for XP. An operating system
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be written to accommodate the customers needs. Otherwise it is a
>>>>>>> useless
>>>>>>> toy, and in the case of Vista, a broken toy.
>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:32:36 -0700, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "IanB" <IanB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Having installed Vista I find that is does not work with: 1. Our
>>>>>>>>> accounts system - Sage
>>>>>>>>> 2. Our CRM system - ACT!
>>>>>>>>> 3. Our shopping cart system - Actinic 4. Our design package -
>>>>>>>>> Quark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You could have found all that out before upgrading to Vista. MAS90
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> MAS200 are not ready for Vista.

Colin bowed out of the Vista newsgroups because the static level was
approaching 50%.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> Lol, I wish. Thanks for asking. Yeah I been out for a bit, had surgery
> but things are coming along.
>
> I hear you on Colin. I haven't seen a post by him in ages, well before I
> stopped out at the beginning of March.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote
>> Where have you been? You and Colin been fishing? :-)
>> Haven't seen Colin in a long time.
>
>> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>>> Replace every few years? XP has been out for 6 years. That's one of
>>> the longest intervals between OS releases.
>>>
>>> "TK" <tk@home.com> wrote
>>>> Xp runs so good for people I know they don't see a need to upgrade.
>>>> I think people are getting tired of having to replace
>>>> hardware/software/OS
>>>> every few years maybe. I know I am and Vista doesn't bring enough to
>>>> the plate
>>>> to make an upgrade worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that I do realize in another 2-3 years Vista may be truly
>>>> ready and maybe by
>>>> then Microsoft will realize it's overpriced.
>>>>
>>>> "David B." <brooks.dj@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>> So your saying, rather than develop new technologies, Microsoft's main
>>>>> goal with new OS's should be to make sure it's backwards compatible
>>>>> with all apps? What would be the point of releasing a new OS then?
>>>
>>>>> "Billy" <bigbill52a@slapsoap.com> wrote
>>>>>>I really dont think that it is too much to ask that the majority of
>>>>>> progams that worked in XP should also work in Vista. When I upgraded
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> 2000 to XP, the only programs that didnt work in both were the
>>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>>> toys that were designed specifically for XP. An operating system
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be written to accommodate the customers needs. Otherwise it is a
>>>>>> useless
>>>>>> toy, and in the case of Vista, a broken toy.
>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:32:36 -0700, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "IanB" <IanB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Having installed Vista I find that is does not work with: 1. Our
>>>>>>>> accounts system - Sage
>>>>>>>> 2. Our CRM system - ACT!
>>>>>>>> 3. Our shopping cart system - Actinic 4. Our design package - Quark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could have found all that out before upgrading to Vista. MAS90
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> MAS200 are not ready for Vista.
>