Vista - TweakUI & Vista's restore points (Feedback, please)

As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
BitLocker will protect Vista.

I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI
to hide Vista's partition. An MVP has this posted
on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?

I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.

Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.

Thanks guys.


-Michael

No it does NOT work ...
http://msmvps.com/blogs/hostsnews/ar...m-restore.aspx

Mike Burgess
Microsoft MVP - Internet Explorer - 1999-2007
"There's no place like 127.0.0.1"
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>
> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's partition.
> An MVP has this posted
> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>
> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>
> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> -Michael

TweakUI only add a new keys "Nodrives" or "NoViewOnDrive" under HKLM(or
HKCU)\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer in
system registry. It only prevent displaying/accessing selected letters
in Windows Explorer. Nothing more.
--
M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
/before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>
> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's
> partition. An MVP has this posted
> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>
> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>
> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> -Michael

Thanks, guys.


-Michael

"Michal Kawecki" <kkwinto@o2.pl> wrote in message news:e08msb3cHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> TweakUI only add a new keys "Nodrives" or "NoViewOnDrive" under HKLM(or
> HKCU)\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer in system registry. It only
> prevent displaying/accessing selected letters in Windows Explorer. Nothing more.
> --
> M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
> /before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
>> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
>> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
>> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
>> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>>
>> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's partition. An MVP has this
>> posted
>> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
>> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
>> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
>> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
>> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
>> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>>
>> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
>> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
>> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>>
>> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
>> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
>> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>>
>> Thanks guys.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>
>

some stupid MVP had that on his site...lol most mvps are smart as
vista... and you know how dumb vista is


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>
> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's partition.
> An MVP has this posted
> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>
> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>
> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>
> Thanks guys.
>
>
> -Michael

I queried this with Microsoft a while back and they stated that it is just
possible that this problem will be dealt with in XP SP3. No promises
however.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OQEyt94cHHA.4468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, guys.
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Michal Kawecki" <kkwinto@o2.pl> wrote in message
> news:e08msb3cHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> TweakUI only add a new keys "Nodrives" or "NoViewOnDrive" under HKLM(or
>> HKCU)\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer in
>> system registry. It only prevent displaying/accessing selected letters in
>> Windows Explorer. Nothing more.
>> --
>> M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
>> /before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
>>> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
>>> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
>>> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
>>> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>>>
>>> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's partition.
>>> An MVP has this posted
>>> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
>>> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
>>> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
>>> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
>>> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
>>> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
>>> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
>>> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>>>
>>> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
>>> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
>>> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks guys.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>
>>
>

John Barnett is one of the most helpful MVPs
that I know. It seems he has made a mistake,
we all do. More than likely, he saw this "fix" reported
on other sites and assumed that it actually worked
without testing it himself. Hopefully, he will correct his
site, soon.

Most MVPs are very helpful, *some* are extremely
arrogant and not very helpful at all. John is part of the
"most" category, he seems kind and dispenses help without
the disdain some MVPs show.

By the way, I happen to like Vista. There are some things
that I don't and some areas of progression that I don't agree
with, and at times, I can be very critical/outspoken.
But, for the most, I find Vista stable and in terms of performance
and security- a step in the right direction.


Take care,

Michael

"kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message news:etXOaF5cHHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> some stupid MVP had that on his site...lol most mvps are smart as
> vista... and you know how dumb vista is
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
>> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
>> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
>> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
>> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>>
>> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's partition.
>> An MVP has this posted
>> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
>> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
>> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
>> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
>> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
>> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>>
>> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
>> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
>> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>>
>> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
>> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
>> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>>
>> Thanks guys.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>
>

I have heard the same, and been told that by two
different Microsoft employees. Hopefully, it does
get fixed.


-Michael

"Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:eUAG4Z5cHHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I queried this with Microsoft a while back and they stated that it is just possible that this
>problem will be dealt with in XP SP3. No promises however.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
> P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OQEyt94cHHA.4468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks, guys.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> "Michal Kawecki" <kkwinto@o2.pl> wrote in message
>> news:e08msb3cHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> TweakUI only add a new keys "Nodrives" or "NoViewOnDrive" under HKLM(or
>>> HKCU)\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer in system registry. It
>>> only prevent displaying/accessing selected letters in Windows Explorer. Nothing more.
>>> --
>>> M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
>>> /before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/
>>>
>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
>>>> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
>>>> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
>>>> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
>>>> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>>>>
>>>> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's partition. An MVP has this
>>>> posted
>>>> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
>>>> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
>>>> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
>>>> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
>>>> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
>>>> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
>>>> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
>>>> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>>>>
>>>> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
>>>> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
>>>> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Hey... I suspected that would not work right away...

as an mvp he shouldnt have fallen for that hide drive thing...

We all make mistakes.... if we did not we would not learn ...


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:eIWjTc5cHHA.2332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> John Barnett is one of the most helpful MVPs
> that I know. It seems he has made a mistake,
> we all do. More than likely, he saw this "fix" reported
> on other sites and assumed that it actually worked
> without testing it himself. Hopefully, he will correct his
> site, soon.
>
> Most MVPs are very helpful, *some* are extremely
> arrogant and not very helpful at all. John is part of the
> "most" category, he seems kind and dispenses help without
> the disdain some MVPs show.
> By the way, I happen to like Vista. There are some things
> that I don't and some areas of progression that I don't agree
> with, and at times, I can be very critical/outspoken. But, for the most,
> I find Vista stable and in terms of performance
> and security- a step in the right direction.
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Michael
>
> "kirk jim" <11@11.11> wrote in message
> news:etXOaF5cHHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> some stupid MVP had that on his site...lol most mvps are smart as
>> vista... and you know how dumb vista is
>>
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
>>> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
>>> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
>>> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
>>> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>>>
>>> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's partition.
>>> An MVP has this posted
>>> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
>>> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
>>> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
>>> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
>>> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
>>> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
>>> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
>>> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>>>
>>> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
>>> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
>>> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>>>
>>> Thanks guys.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>

Well it does kind of make a mockery of Vista's so-called "added security"
features when another, older system can wipe bits of it out.
Talking about bits, I tried the Bitlocker approach in my Vista...doesn't
work. Keeps insisting that there isn't enough drive space and there is
loads, believe me.
Probably the dual boot situation is just too much for it!!
Can't wait for Vista SP1 too.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:edNFGe5cHHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I have heard the same, and been told that by two
> different Microsoft employees. Hopefully, it does
> get fixed.
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:eUAG4Z5cHHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I queried this with Microsoft a while back and they stated that it is just
>>possible that this problem will be dealt with in XP SP3. No promises
>>however.
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>> Toronto, Canada
>> XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
>> P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:OQEyt94cHHA.4468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks, guys.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> "Michal Kawecki" <kkwinto@o2.pl> wrote in message
>>> news:e08msb3cHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> TweakUI only add a new keys "Nodrives" or "NoViewOnDrive" under HKLM(or
>>>> HKCU)\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer in
>>>> system registry. It only prevent displaying/accessing selected letters
>>>> in Windows Explorer. Nothing more.
>>>> --
>>>> M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
>>>> /before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/
>>>>
>>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OqaCNs0cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> As we all know, if you dual-boot XP and Vista,
>>>>> XP's volsnap.sys will delete Vista's restore points
>>>>> and shadow copies. We know the two fixes- hide
>>>>> Vista's partition from XP or if you have Ultimate,
>>>>> BitLocker will protect Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen some users suggest using TweakUI to hide Vista's
>>>>> partition. An MVP has this posted
>>>>> on his website as an option. I have seen this posted
>>>>> in on several websites. However, I have seen quite
>>>>> a few folks say that TweakUI doesn't actually work
>>>>> properly in hiding Vista's partition and their restore points
>>>>> are deleted. Has anyone verified if TweakUI actually does
>>>>> protect Vista's restore points by hiding Vista's partition?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate feedback on this. Those that have used
>>>>> TweakUI, booted to XP and then back to Vista, and still have
>>>>> their restore points. Successful and unsuccessful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before I recommend this to anyone, I really would like to
>>>>> hear from those that have tried it. Unfortunately, I haven't
>>>>> tried it, yet. I'm using BitLocker to protect Vista on this machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>