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Old 04-06-2007   #1 (permalink)
MJ


 
 

Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

Hi,

I'm using Windows Business version, and tring to use Subsystem for
UNIX-Based Applications (SUA) on my Vista machine.

However, it seems that SUA subsystem cannot be installed on Windows
Business version; only Enterprise and Ultimate versions are supporting
that.

Is there any way to install SUA by a kind of hacking(!) or just
copying SUA files from already installed in Ultimate version?

I hope you give some advice using SUA on Business version. Do I only
have to upgrade to Enterprise or Ultimate version?

Thanks


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-06-2007   #2 (permalink)
Carey Frisch [MVP]


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications is only available in the following versions of Windows Vista:

. Windows Vista Ultimate
. Windows Vista Enterprise


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----


"MJ" wrote:

Hi,

I'm using Windows Business version, and tring to use Subsystem for
UNIX-Based Applications (SUA) on my Vista machine.

However, it seems that SUA subsystem cannot be installed on Windows
Business version; only Enterprise and Ultimate versions are supporting
that.

Is there any way to install SUA by a kind of hacking(!) or just
copying SUA files from already installed in Ultimate version?

I hope you give some advice using SUA on Business version. Do I only
have to upgrade to Enterprise or Ultimate version?

Thanks

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-06-2007   #3 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

Is it possible for MJ to use a copy of Services for Unix on Vista Business
instead?
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:4D9CBBD6-9670-4784-84CE-0ADEE1B5EED8@microsoft.com...
> Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications is only available in the following
> versions of Windows Vista:
>
> . Windows Vista Ultimate
> . Windows Vista Enterprise
>
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
>
>
> "MJ" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm using Windows Business version, and tring to use Subsystem for
> UNIX-Based Applications (SUA) on my Vista machine.
>
> However, it seems that SUA subsystem cannot be installed on Windows
> Business version; only Enterprise and Ultimate versions are supporting
> that.
>
> Is there any way to install SUA by a kind of hacking(!) or just
> copying SUA files from already installed in Ultimate version?
>
> I hope you give some advice using SUA on Business version. Do I only
> have to upgrade to Enterprise or Ultimate version?
>
> Thanks
>



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-06-2007   #4 (permalink)
Carey Frisch [MVP]


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

No, it can only be installed on Vista Ultimate or Enterprise editions.
MJ would need to upgrade to Vista Ultimate.

Upgrade to another edition of Windows Vista
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...93bb81033.mspx

Windows Anytime Upgrade: frequently asked questions
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:

Is it possible for MJ to use a copy of Services for Unix on Vista Business
instead?
--
Andre

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-06-2007   #5 (permalink)
Doris Day


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications is only available in the following
> versions of Windows Vista:
>
> . Windows Vista Ultimate
> . Windows Vista Enterprise
>
>

The fool should have known that! It's written right on the box.

Love and Kisses,
Doris

--
My Microsoft Hero (he loves this company!) ...
http://tinyurl.com/yp9cn2
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Old 04-06-2007   #6 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

No, I'm talking about old Services for Unix software which was available for
2000 or XP.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:273E6B5B-5A45-4083-A894-FDC2B8A22EDA@microsoft.com...
> No, it can only be installed on Vista Ultimate or Enterprise editions.
> MJ would need to upgrade to Vista Ultimate.
>
> Upgrade to another edition of Windows Vista
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...93bb81033.mspx
>
> Windows Anytime Upgrade: frequently asked questions
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>
> Is it possible for MJ to use a copy of Services for Unix on Vista Business
> instead?
> --
> Andre
>



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-06-2007   #7 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

The Microsoft download won't install on Vista according to:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

From System Requirements:
"Note: The product will not install on Windows 9x or Windows XP Home Edition
or Windows Vista."

My guess is that this is to force use of the enterprise or ultimate versions
in order to get this feature. Could be because of the networking
requirements that are needed.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%236WZHsKeHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> No, I'm talking about old Services for Unix software which was available
> for 2000 or XP.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:273E6B5B-5A45-4083-A894-FDC2B8A22EDA@microsoft.com...
>> No, it can only be installed on Vista Ultimate or Enterprise editions.
>> MJ would need to upgrade to Vista Ultimate.
>>
>> Upgrade to another edition of Windows Vista
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...93bb81033.mspx
>>
>> Windows Anytime Upgrade: frequently asked questions
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible for MJ to use a copy of Services for Unix on Vista
>> Business
>> instead?
>> --
>> Andre
>>

>
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-06-2007   #8 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

Thanks Roger.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uscxj%23KeHHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The Microsoft download won't install on Vista according to:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> From System Requirements:
> "Note: The product will not install on Windows 9x or Windows XP Home
> Edition or Windows Vista."
>
> My guess is that this is to force use of the enterprise or ultimate
> versions in order to get this feature. Could be because of the networking
> requirements that are needed.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%236WZHsKeHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> No, I'm talking about old Services for Unix software which was available
>> for 2000 or XP.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:273E6B5B-5A45-4083-A894-FDC2B8A22EDA@microsoft.com...
>>> No, it can only be installed on Vista Ultimate or Enterprise editions.
>>> MJ would need to upgrade to Vista Ultimate.
>>>
>>> Upgrade to another edition of Windows Vista
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...93bb81033.mspx
>>>
>>> Windows Anytime Upgrade: frequently asked questions
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carey Frisch
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows - Shell/User
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible for MJ to use a copy of Services for Unix on Vista
>>> Business
>>> instead?
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>>

>>
>>

>



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Old 04-06-2007   #9 (permalink)
~^_^~


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

I'm not sure whether my question is appropriate in this topic.
However, I'd appreciate if you give some information about my
questions:

I'm a newbie SFU and SUA. My ultimate goal is compiling and
*debugging* Linux based applications with Visual Studio 2005.
Actually, now I'm doing like this with Eclipse + CDT + cygwin.
Cygwin's gcc and gdb work great, however Eclipse + CDT is really poor
than Visual Studio in terms of speead and easiness of debugging.

1. Is it possible to use Visual Studio 2005 for compiling and
debugging Linux-based source codes?

2. I've found SFU and SUA. What is the exact difference of them? I
think SFU is old-fashioned and SUA is preferred. Do I have to use
SUA?

3. In order to run SUA, Windows Server 2003 'R2' needed. But, I only
have Windows Server 2003 with service pack 2. How can I upgrade to R2
version? I have valid product key of Win 2003 from my university's
MSDN program.

Appreciate your answers.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-06-2007   #10 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications

Questions answered in-line:
1. Is it possible to use Visual Studio 2005 for compiling and
debugging Linux-based source codes?
>I think its best using the platforms native development tools. Thats just
>my opinion of course, I'm not a developer.


2. I've found SFU and SUA. What is the exact difference of them? I
think SFU is old-fashioned and SUA is preferred. Do I have to use
SUA?
> Don't know much, just that they do the same thing. You might wanna drop
> this one over at the appropriate ng:

microsoft.public.servicesforunix.general

3. In order to run SUA, Windows Server 2003 'R2' needed. But, I only
have Windows Server 2003 with service pack 2. How can I upgrade to R2
version? I have valid product key of Win 2003 from my university's
MSDN program.
>You can upgrade to Windows Server 2003 "R2" by purchasing it from
>authorized software dealers.

--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"~^_^~" <null.function@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175908966.688235.23130@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> I'm not sure whether my question is appropriate in this topic.
> However, I'd appreciate if you give some information about my
> questions:
>
> I'm a newbie SFU and SUA. My ultimate goal is compiling and
> *debugging* Linux based applications with Visual Studio 2005.
> Actually, now I'm doing like this with Eclipse + CDT + cygwin.
> Cygwin's gcc and gdb work great, however Eclipse + CDT is really poor
> than Visual Studio in terms of speead and easiness of debugging.
>
> 1. Is it possible to use Visual Studio 2005 for compiling and
> debugging Linux-based source codes?
>
> 2. I've found SFU and SUA. What is the exact difference of them? I
> think SFU is old-fashioned and SUA is preferred. Do I have to use
> SUA?
>
> 3. In order to run SUA, Windows Server 2003 'R2' needed. But, I only
> have Windows Server 2003 with service pack 2. How can I upgrade to R2
> version? I have valid product key of Win 2003 from my university's
> MSDN program.
>
> Appreciate your answers.
>



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