Vista - Re: how do you turn off firewall

"AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
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> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
> no need for it.


If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off the
Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall, you do
need the Windows firewall.

--
Jim

On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:35:06 -0700, "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote:

>"AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
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>> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
>> no need for it.
>
>
>If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off the
>Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall, you do
>need the Windows firewall.

Maybe I listen to too much Leo Laporte, but I thought if you had a
home router you did not need a firewall?

"JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
> news:F18648AE-465B-4CC5-9CBE-A4FEDF3BCA5A@microsoft.com...
>> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
>> no need for it.
>
>
> If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off the
> Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall, you do
> need the Windows firewall.
>
> --
> Jim

I've been running for years without a firewall. Nothing has yet made it
through Nat on my router. So, how do you turn off the Vista firewall?

Is it a resource hog?
"Zootal" <Don't send me any freaking spam at zootal dot com remove the don't
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> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> "AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
>> news:F18648AE-465B-4CC5-9CBE-A4FEDF3BCA5A@microsoft.com...
>>> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
>>> no need for it.
>>
>>
>> If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off
>> the Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall,
>> you do need the Windows firewall.
>>
>> --
>> Jim
>
> I've been running for years without a firewall. Nothing has yet made it
> through Nat on my router. So, how do you turn off the Vista firewall?
>

"SwampYankee" <122.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:35:06 -0700, "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote:
>
>>"AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
>>news:F18648AE-465B-4CC5-9CBE-A4FEDF3BCA5A@microsoft.com...
>>> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
>>> no need for it.
>>
>>
>>If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off the
>>Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall, you do
>>need the Windows firewall.
>
> Maybe I listen to too much Leo Laporte, but I thought if you had a
> home router you did not need a firewall?

If you are behind a "home router", it will stop all incoming packets. I have
operated like this for years, and nothing has ever gotten through. The
router stops all incoming packets. It will NOT stop outgoing packets, so if
your computer gets infected, it can spread it's disease to the rest of the
world. For the most part a good AV will stop the infection. Good antivirus
is essential, a firewall is not.

If you are not behind NAT, but are instead open to the Internet without a
firewall, and you run Windows, it's like putting up a sign saying "I'm here,
hack me, I'm here!". I made the mistake of connecting my laptop to the
Internet without a firewall or router (I used dialup), and it didn't take 5
mintues before some nasty used one of the many vulnerabilities of Windows to
infect my system. I ended up having to wipe the drive and reloaded Windows.
Painful lesson learned - never connect directly to the Internet without a
firewall.

He said completely turn it off. OK, mr microsoft! MVP, major virtual p****

"JimR" wrote:

> "AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
> news:F18648AE-465B-4CC5-9CBE-A4FEDF3BCA5A@microsoft.com...
> > how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
> > no need for it.
>
>
> If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off the
> Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall, you do
> need the Windows firewall.
>
> --
> Jim
>

"JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote in message
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> "AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
> news:F18648AE-465B-4CC5-9CBE-A4FEDF3BCA5A@microsoft.com...
>> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
>> no need for it.
>
>
> If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off the
> Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall, you do
> need the Windows firewall.
>
> --
> Jim


No, I don't need any software firewall. I am secure without it since I am
totally protected by my Sonicwall and it also causes many issues.

So how do you shut it off totally?

"Zootal" <Don't send me any freaking spam at zootal dot com remove the don't
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> "SwampYankee" <122.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:35:06 -0700, "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
>>>news:F18648AE-465B-4CC5-9CBE-A4FEDF3BCA5A@microsoft.com...
>>>> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i
>>>> have
>>>> no need for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off
>>>the
>>>Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall, you
>>>do
>>>need the Windows firewall.
>>
>> Maybe I listen to too much Leo Laporte, but I thought if you had a
>> home router you did not need a firewall?
>
> If you are behind a "home router", it will stop all incoming packets. I
> have operated like this for years, and nothing has ever gotten through.
> The router stops all incoming packets. It will NOT stop outgoing packets,
> so if your computer gets infected, it can spread it's disease to the rest
> of the world. For the most part a good AV will stop the infection. Good
> antivirus is essential, a firewall is not.
>
> If you are not behind NAT, but are instead open to the Internet without a
> firewall, and you run Windows, it's like putting up a sign saying "I'm
> here, hack me, I'm here!". I made the mistake of connecting my laptop to
> the Internet without a firewall or router (I used dialup), and it didn't
> take 5 mintues before some nasty used one of the many vulnerabilities of
> Windows to infect my system. I ended up having to wipe the drive and
> reloaded Windows. Painful lesson learned - never connect directly to the
> Internet without a firewall.
>
>
>


None of you are answering my question. Do not get off topic!!

"Zootal" <Don't send me any freaking spam at zootal dot com remove the don't
send me any freaking spam> wrote in message
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> If you are behind a "home router", it will stop all incoming packets. I
> have operated like this for years, and nothing has ever gotten through.
> The router stops all incoming packets. It will NOT stop outgoing packets,
> so if your computer gets infected, it can spread it's disease to the rest
> of the world.

If your computer got infected by something sophisticated enough, do you not
think it could just turn the damn firewall off itself, or better still
quietly create an exception for itself? A 'software firewall' running on a
system is at the tender mercy of ever other system level process running on
that machine, such as any currently running malware.

See my previous response.

"AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
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> "JimR" <jrap107@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> "AMDX2" <d@d.com> wrote in message
>> news:F18648AE-465B-4CC5-9CBE-A4FEDF3BCA5A@microsoft.com...
>>> how do you totally turn off the vista firewall on all interfaces? i have
>>> no need for it.
>>
>>
>> If you have installed a third party firewall it should have turned off
>> the Windows firewall. If you have not installed a third party firewall,
>> you do need the Windows firewall.
>>
>> --
>> Jim
>
>
> No, I don't need any software firewall. I am secure without it since I am
> totally protected by my Sonicwall and it also causes many issues.
>
> So how do you shut it off totally?