Vista - Vista and Burning CD's

Im using Vista to Burn my Cds but when the progress starts it says
formatting 574 (or something like that) and it will not play in my cd
player, nor my car (and my car nav system supports mp3, wma, wav, etc.). All
the files were transferred from .wma to .mp3 by a program. Can anyone help
me with this?

Thanks,
Thvoicwethin@hotmail.com

Almost no CD players support MP3 format disks. Are you sure your car does?
All disks must be closed before they will be able to be played on another
"Andrew Watkins" <thvoicwethin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OJQF15SfHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Im using Vista to Burn my Cds but when the progress starts it says
> formatting 574 (or something like that) and it will not play in my cd
> player, nor my car (and my car nav system supports mp3, wma, wav, etc.).
> All the files were transferred from .wma to .mp3 by a program. Can anyone
> help me with this?
>
> Thanks,
> Thvoicwethin@hotmail.com

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:udBKCTTfHHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Almost no CD players support MP3 format disks. Are you sure your car
> does? All disks must be closed before they will be able to be played on
> another

You are very much behind the time on this topic. More and more vehicel
steros are "MP3 Capable". Virtually any PC with QuickTime, to name just one
product, can play an MP3 file written to the CD . . . unless you are lazy
and do not read the prompt asking if you want a music CD or a data CD. By
selecting Data CD, you accept the file as is, i.e. MP3 files are copied to
the CD as MP3 file and not translated to CDA.

You are partially correct about closing the CD. This is a step I always do
as it ensures the disk will be read by another device. Leaving the disk open
*usually* allows the disk to be read ny the same drive that created it, i.e.
you want to burn additional files to the same CD at a later date.

As for WMA, what is that? It must be some propietary standard because no one
I know uses it. I only use CDA or MP3 because anyone can play them.


> "Andrew Watkins" <thvoicwethin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OJQF15SfHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Im using Vista to Burn my Cds but when the progress starts it says
>> formatting 574 (or something like that) and it will not play in my cd
>> player, nor my car (and my car nav system supports mp3, wma, wav, etc.).
>> All the files were transferred from .wma to .mp3 by a program. Can anyone
>> help me with this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Thvoicwethin@hotmail.com
>

I wasn't talking about computer CD players. I was talking about stand alone
players, like boom boxes. Car players I didn't say anything about, only
asked if he was sure his was MP3 capable. As to the rest of your asinine
ramblings they can stand on their own. I copy MP3 files to CDA every day to
play on my other standalone players.

"emanon" <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote in message
news:OJPbPgTfHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:udBKCTTfHHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Almost no CD players support MP3 format disks. Are you sure your car
>> does? All disks must be closed before they will be able to be played on
>> another
>
> You are very much behind the time on this topic. More and more vehicel
> steros are "MP3 Capable". Virtually any PC with QuickTime, to name just
> one product, can play an MP3 file written to the CD . . . unless you are
> lazy and do not read the prompt asking if you want a music CD or a data
> CD. By selecting Data CD, you accept the file as is, i.e. MP3 files are
> copied to the CD as MP3 file and not translated to CDA.
>
> You are partially correct about closing the CD. This is a step I always do
> as it ensures the disk will be read by another device. Leaving the disk
> open *usually* allows the disk to be read ny the same drive that created
> it, i.e. you want to burn additional files to the same CD at a later date.
>
> As for WMA, what is that? It must be some propietary standard because no
> one I know uses it. I only use CDA or MP3 because anyone can play them.
>
>
>> "Andrew Watkins" <thvoicwethin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:OJQF15SfHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Im using Vista to Burn my Cds but when the progress starts it says
>>> formatting 574 (or something like that) and it will not play in my cd
>>> player, nor my car (and my car nav system supports mp3, wma, wav, etc.).
>>> All the files were transferred from .wma to .mp3 by a program. Can
>>> anyone help me with this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Thvoicwethin@hotmail.com
>>
>
>

Today, John Barnes made these interesting comments ...

> Almost no CD players support MP3 format disks. Are you sure
> your car does? All disks must be closed before they will be
> able to be played on another "Andrew Watkins"

Standard CD players in cars will not play MP3s but all car makers
offer an optional MP3 player, typically with a 4 or 6 disc
changer. Both my 2006 Dodge Charger and 2007 Chrysler PT Cruiser
each have a 6-disc in-dash MP3 player/changer, works just fine.
Ostensibly, these players will not read UDF, only Joliet, so that
is how I burn mine although I have tested UDF and it appears to
work OK. Also, my owner's manuals say that the max titles/disc
recognized is 256, but I have exceeded that as well.

Also, my newer DVR VHS/DVD player/DVD burners for my TVs support
JPEG CDs and music CDs/DVDs of any valid type, including MP3.

None of this solves the OP's problem, of course, I just commented
that the technology one can buy for the home or their car has
changed dramatically in the last couple of years and likely MP3-
compatible players are there on the order blank for your next
car. I don't know, but I suppose one could buy an after-market
add-on below-the-dash disc changer with the electronics to play
MP3 CDs in a car, with correct wiring harnesses to plug into the
existing radio.

Now, as to DVDs with music on them, WAV or MP3, neither of my
cars will play those, but I am told that 2008 cars from most
manufacturers will offer that as part of upgrades to support DVD
video for the 2nd and 3rd row seats.

> <thvoicwethin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OJQF15SfHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Im using Vista to Burn my Cds but when the progress starts it
>> says formatting 574 (or something like that) and it will not
>> play in my cd player, nor my car (and my car nav system
>> supports mp3, wma, wav, etc.). All the files were transferred
>> from .wma to .mp3 by a program. Can anyone help me with this?

--
HP, aka Jerry

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:%23$SYW2TfHHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I wasn't talking about computer CD players. I was talking about stand
>alone players, like boom boxes. Car players I didn't say anything about,
>only asked if he was sure his was MP3 capable. As to the rest of your
>asinine ramblings they can stand on their own. I copy MP3 files to CDA
>every day to play on my other standalone players.
>

And in creating a CDA, they are no longer MP3. That is what your original
post implied you were interested in doing: play MP3 format CDs in a vehicle.
Many people do this because you can get around the usual 80 minute time
constraint of the CD media. If you copy all you files as MP3, then you can
pack around 700 MB of material onto a single disk, regardless of play
length. You may have different maximum capacities depending on your media or
your hardware. The playback catch is, you must have a drive capable of
playing MP3 music files. As I said, more vehicles are coming so equipped and
vistrually any PC with a media player will do the job.

One caution relating to the quality of the MP3: the more you try to compress
it, the more the sound quality degrades. There are two corrollaries to this:
1) NEVER compress an MP3 after the inital conversion and 2) you can NEVER
recover what has been lost. This is the real tragedy of many traded music
files. Someone will minimally compress an MP3 to preserve as much of the
quality as possible. Then someone else will try to fit this on their CD and
find they need a high compression. This double compressed file is now passed
off. Someone else receives this file and says, oh wait, let me store this at
a lower compression so it sounds better. NOTHING IS REGAINED.

The same applies to people that receive an MP3, then create a CDA CD from
the MP3. Whatever was lost during the original compression stays lost. The
first pass drops all frequencies outside of 20 - 20,000 Hz and any frequency
also below a particular amplitutude. Once eliminated, these frequencies
cannot be recovered. If a second MP3 is created from the reconstituted CDA,
the sound quality is absolutely awful.

Of couse you can disregard all these quality issues if your sole goal is
cramming your portable player full as much as you can.

> "emanon" <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote in message
> news:OJPbPgTfHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> news:udBKCTTfHHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Almost no CD players support MP3 format disks. Are you sure your car
>>> does? All disks must be closed before they will be able to be played on
>>> another
>>
>> You are very much behind the time on this topic. More and more vehicel
>> steros are "MP3 Capable". Virtually any PC with QuickTime, to name just
>> one product, can play an MP3 file written to the CD . . . unless you are
>> lazy and do not read the prompt asking if you want a music CD or a data
>> CD. By selecting Data CD, you accept the file as is, i.e. MP3 files are
>> copied to the CD as MP3 file and not translated to CDA.
>>
>> You are partially correct about closing the CD. This is a step I always
>> do as it ensures the disk will be read by another device. Leaving the
>> disk open *usually* allows the disk to be read ny the same drive that
>> created it, i.e. you want to burn additional files to the same CD at a
>> later date.
>>
>> As for WMA, what is that? It must be some propietary standard because no
>> one I know uses it. I only use CDA or MP3 because anyone can play them.
>>
>>
>>> "Andrew Watkins" <thvoicwethin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message news:OJQF15SfHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Im using Vista to Burn my Cds but when the progress starts it says
>>>> formatting 574 (or something like that) and it will not play in my cd
>>>> player, nor my car (and my car nav system supports mp3, wma, wav,
>>>> etc.). All the files were transferred from .wma to .mp3 by a program.
>>>> Can anyone help me with this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Thvoicwethin@hotmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>

I need info on how to compress a wav file in Vista. In my XP I could type
SNDREC32.EXE in the RUN blank and a little sound recorder came up and
compressed my wavs, after I had changed them from MP3 to wav, a large file. I
have prayer chains and I want background music on them all that I send
in.....but so far since I got Vista, I can't compress them. I've tried
downloading different compressors but nothing works. I would love to get some
info, Raylene Boggs
***************************************************

"emanon" wrote:

>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:%23$SYW2TfHHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >I wasn't talking about computer CD players. I was talking about stand
> >alone players, like boom boxes. Car players I didn't say anything about,
> >only asked if he was sure his was MP3 capable. As to the rest of your
> >asinine ramblings they can stand on their own. I copy MP3 files to CDA
> >every day to play on my other standalone players.
> >
>
> And in creating a CDA, they are no longer MP3. That is what your original
> post implied you were interested in doing: play MP3 format CDs in a vehicle.
> Many people do this because you can get around the usual 80 minute time
> constraint of the CD media. If you copy all you files as MP3, then you can
> pack around 700 MB of material onto a single disk, regardless of play
> length. You may have different maximum capacities depending on your media or
> your hardware. The playback catch is, you must have a drive capable of
> playing MP3 music files. As I said, more vehicles are coming so equipped and
> vistrually any PC with a media player will do the job.
>
> One caution relating to the quality of the MP3: the more you try to compress
> it, the more the sound quality degrades. There are two corrollaries to this:
> 1) NEVER compress an MP3 after the inital conversion and 2) you can NEVER
> recover what has been lost. This is the real tragedy of many traded music
> files. Someone will minimally compress an MP3 to preserve as much of the
> quality as possible. Then someone else will try to fit this on their CD and
> find they need a high compression. This double compressed file is now passed
> off. Someone else receives this file and says, oh wait, let me store this at
> a lower compression so it sounds better. NOTHING IS REGAINED.
>
> The same applies to people that receive an MP3, then create a CDA CD from
> the MP3. Whatever was lost during the original compression stays lost. The
> first pass drops all frequencies outside of 20 - 20,000 Hz and any frequency
> also below a particular amplitutude. Once eliminated, these frequencies
> cannot be recovered. If a second MP3 is created from the reconstituted CDA,
> the sound quality is absolutely awful.
>
> Of couse you can disregard all these quality issues if your sole goal is
> cramming your portable player full as much as you can.
>
> > "emanon" <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote in message
> > news:OJPbPgTfHHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> >> news:udBKCTTfHHA.1456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>> Almost no CD players support MP3 format disks. Are you sure your car
> >>> does? All disks must be closed before they will be able to be played on
> >>> another
> >>
> >> You are very much behind the time on this topic. More and more vehicel
> >> steros are "MP3 Capable". Virtually any PC with QuickTime, to name just
> >> one product, can play an MP3 file written to the CD . . . unless you are
> >> lazy and do not read the prompt asking if you want a music CD or a data
> >> CD. By selecting Data CD, you accept the file as is, i.e. MP3 files are
> >> copied to the CD as MP3 file and not translated to CDA.
> >>
> >> You are partially correct about closing the CD. This is a step I always
> >> do as it ensures the disk will be read by another device. Leaving the
> >> disk open *usually* allows the disk to be read ny the same drive that
> >> created it, i.e. you want to burn additional files to the same CD at a
> >> later date.
> >>
> >> As for WMA, what is that? It must be some propietary standard because no
> >> one I know uses it. I only use CDA or MP3 because anyone can play them.
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Andrew Watkins" <thvoicwethin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>> message news:OJQF15SfHHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Im using Vista to Burn my Cds but when the progress starts it says
> >>>> formatting 574 (or something like that) and it will not play in my cd
> >>>> player, nor my car (and my car nav system supports mp3, wma, wav,
> >>>> etc.). All the files were transferred from .wma to .mp3 by a program.
> >>>> Can anyone help me with this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Thvoicwethin@hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>