Vista - Video Thumbnails, WMP, and other MAJOR slow down areas

OK, if I can't get these Vista problems fixed, the Wow ENDS next week!

My biggest problem with Vista is how long it takes to cache the video
thumbnails when looking at a folder full of videos (maybe 20-30 videos). It
seriously takes up to 5 minutes! Even worse, during that time, the computer
is practically unusable! It's almost as though it has crashed! I almost
dread opening a folder full of videos for fear of this! I would just turn
off the thumbnails, but it's hard to tell the videos apart without it! I had
no problems with thumbnails in XP. They were instantaneous! Who cares about
scalable thumbnails if they take 5 minutes to load EVERY TIME I OPEN THE
FREAKIN FOLDER!!!

My 2nd biggest problem with Vista is with WMP 11. When I try to open a file
(both music and video, though video is worse) it takes 30 seconds to a minute
to load! Again, this was practically instantaneous in XP. Tack this on to
the time it takes to open the folder the video is saved in and you've got a 6
minute process to load a freakin video! This is ridiculous!

OK, my final major problem is actually within Office 2007 on Vista (I'm too
afraid to install it on my XP laptop to see how it runs on XP).
Specifically, my problem is with PowerPoint 2007. I do a lot of timed slides
and the timing is crucial to the fraction of a second. Unfortunately,
PowerPoint runs so slow that the timing is EXTREMELY screwed up. My only
solution to this is to use my laptop and Office 2003 until the problem is
fixed.

These are just the major problems which are driving me out of my skull.
Does anyone have any ideas about solving any of these problems? I've been
patiently dealing with these problems since Vista launch. I'm going back to
XP if I can't solve these problems by next week.

Computer Specs:
Pentium 4 3.2 GHz
2 GB Ram
500 GB Hard Drive
ATI Radeon X850 (AGP)
Sound Blaster X-Fi
Window Vista Ultimate (for now, but the countdown back to XP has started!)

"mpotter" wrote:

> My biggest problem with Vista is how long it takes to cache the video
> thumbnails when looking at a folder full of videos (maybe 20-30 videos). It
> seriously takes up to 5 minutes!
> My 2nd biggest problem with Vista is with WMP 11. When I try to open a file
> (both music and video, though video is worse) it takes 30 seconds to a minute
> to load! Again, this was practically instantaneous in XP.

I'm pretty sure you've installed incompatible codec packs or the bloated
Nero7 suite which comes with codecs too.

Bill,

I do have Nero 7 installed. Will simply uninstalling it fix the problem?
Also, how do I change the codec packs to the Vista default?

"BillD" wrote:

> I'm pretty sure you've installed incompatible codec packs or the bloated
> Nero7 suite which comes with codecs too.
>

Better Yet, here is a list of audio and video codecs and plugins I have.
What are and how can I delete the problem codecs?

Audio Codecs
Type Name Format Binary Version
ACM Microsoft IMA ADPCM CODEC 0011 imaadp32.acm 6.0.6000.16386
ACM Microsoft CCITT G.711 A-Law and u-Law CODEC 0007 msg711.acm
6.0.6000.16386
ACM Microsoft GSM 6.10 Audio CODEC 0031 msgsm32.acm 6.0.6000.16386
ACM Microsoft ADPCM CODEC 0002 msadp32.acm 6.0.6000.16386
ACM Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (decode only) 0055 L3CODECA.ACM
1.9.0.401
ACM SHARP G.726 ACM Audio Decoder 0045 scg726.acm 1.0.0.3
ACM NCT ALF2 CD Audio CODEC 1FC4 alf2cd.acm 2.3.1.0
ACM AC-3 ACM Decompressor 2000 AC3ACM.acm 0.7.0.0
ACM Microsoft PCM Converter 0001
DMO InterVideo G726Dec DMO 0045 G726Dec.dll 1.0.0.1
DMO WMAudio Decoder DMO 0160, 0161, 0162, 0163 WMADMOD.DLL 11.0.6000.6324
DMO WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO 0162 WMADMOD.DLL 11.0.6000.6324
DMO WMSpeech Decoder DMO 000A, 000B WMSPDMOD.DLL 11.0.6000.6324
DMO Canon G.726 DMO Decoder 0045 CanonG726DMODecoder.dll 1.0.0.3
DMO MP3 Decoder DMO 0055 mp3dmod.dll 11.0.6000.6324

Video Codecs
Type Name Format Binary Version
ICM Microsoft RLE MRLE msrle32.dll 6.0.6000.16386
ICM Microsoft Video 1 MSVC msvidc32.dll 6.0.6000.16386
ICM Microsoft YUV UYVY msyuv.dll 6.0.6000.16386
ICM Intel IYUV codec IYUV iyuv_32.dll 6.0.6000.16386
ICM Toshiba YUV Codec Y411 tsbyuv.dll 6.0.6000.16386
ICM Cinepak Codec by Radius cvid iccvid.dll 1.10.0.12
ICM EA VP60® Simple Decoder VP60 vp6vfw.dll 6.1.0.5
ICM EA VP61® Advanced Decoder VP61 vp6vfw.dll 6.1.0.5
ICM MainConcept DV Codec 2.0.4 dvsd MCDVD_32.DLL 2.0.0.0
ICM XviD MPEG-4 Codec XVID
ICM DivX 5.0.5 Codec DIVX DivX.dll 5.0.5.830
ICM Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1 MPG4 mpg4c32.dll 4.1.0.3927
ICM Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2 MP42 mpg4c32.dll 4.1.0.3927
ICM Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V3 MP43 mpg4c32.dll 4.1.0.3927
DMO Mpeg4s Decoder DMO mp4s, MP4S, m4s2, M4S2 mp4sdecd.dll 11.0.6000.6324
DMO WMV Screen decoder DMO MSS1, MSS2 wmvsdecd.dll 11.0.6000.6324
DMO WMVideo Decoder DMO WMV1, WMV2, WMV3, WMVP, WVP2, WMVR, WMVA, WVC1
wmvdecod.dll 11.0.6000.6324
DMO Mpeg43 Decoder DMO mp43, MP43 mp43decd.dll 11.0.6000.6324
DMO Mpeg4 Decoder DMO MPG4, mpg4, mp42, MP42 mpg4decd.dll 11.0.6000.6324

MPEG/DVD Filters
Type Name Binary Version
video AVS MPEG2 Decoder Filter AVSMPEG2DecoderFilter.ax 1.1.0.140
video InterVideo Video Decoder IVIVIDEO.ax 8.0.6.104
video Nero Video Decoder nevideo.ax 4.6.15.0
video Nero DVD Decoder nevideo.ax 4.6.15.0
video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.5840.6324
video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
video Nero Video Decoder HD nevideohd.ax 4.6.15.0
video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Multiplexer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Multiplexer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
video Pinnacle MPEG Adjust PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
video Pinnacle MPEG Adjust PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6000.16386
video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
audio AVS Audio Decoder Filter AVSAudioDecoderFilter.ax 1.1.0.103
audio InterVideo Audio Decoder iviaudio.ax 8.0.6.104
audio Nero Audio Decoder 2 neaudio2.ax 4.6.15.0
audio Pinnacle Audio Codec PcleAudioCodec.ax 1.0.145.0
audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll 11.0.5840.6324
audio Pinnacle MPEG Layer-1/2 Audio Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
audio Pinnacle Audio Codec PcleAudioCodec.ax 1.0.145.0
audio Pinnacle MPEG Layer-1/2 Audio Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
audio Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
audio Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0

Plug-ins
Type Name Binary Version
Background Nero Fast CD-DVD Burning Plug-in NeroBurnPlugin.dll 2.0.2.6


"BillD" wrote:

>
>
> "mpotter" wrote:
>
> > My biggest problem with Vista is how long it takes to cache the video
> > thumbnails when looking at a folder full of videos (maybe 20-30 videos). It
> > seriously takes up to 5 minutes!
> > My 2nd biggest problem with Vista is with WMP 11. When I try to open a file
> > (both music and video, though video is worse) it takes 30 seconds to a minute
> > to load! Again, this was practically instantaneous in XP.
>
> I'm pretty sure you've installed incompatible codec packs or the bloated
> Nero7 suite which comes with codecs too.
>

It's really difficult to 'delete' codecs properly, which is one reason why
codec packs are noxious...

You have a really huge amount of codecs. What had you installed? I see a
really old version of DivX (extremel suspect - get at least their latest
version), Nero, Pinnacle, and Intervideo... generally most of those look out
of date and in need of updates.

Why do you have so many MPEG2 decoders installed? Had you installed codec
packs or something on this system? It almost looked like something stomped
on the system MP3 decoder too. That's kind of hard to tell from "here" but
....

What had you installed? No out of box Vista system would or could look like
this. =(

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--

"mpotter" <mpotter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:86FEE052-FCBC-4E4F-92B7-FA6471EBB165@microsoft.com...
> Better Yet, here is a list of audio and video codecs and plugins I have.
> What are and how can I delete the problem codecs?
>
> Audio Codecs
> Type Name Format Binary Version
> ACM Microsoft IMA ADPCM CODEC 0011 imaadp32.acm 6.0.6000.16386
> ACM Microsoft CCITT G.711 A-Law and u-Law CODEC 0007 msg711.acm
> 6.0.6000.16386
> ACM Microsoft GSM 6.10 Audio CODEC 0031 msgsm32.acm 6.0.6000.16386
> ACM Microsoft ADPCM CODEC 0002 msadp32.acm 6.0.6000.16386
> ACM Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec (decode only) 0055 L3CODECA.ACM
> 1.9.0.401
> ACM SHARP G.726 ACM Audio Decoder 0045 scg726.acm 1.0.0.3
> ACM NCT ALF2 CD Audio CODEC 1FC4 alf2cd.acm 2.3.1.0
> ACM AC-3 ACM Decompressor 2000 AC3ACM.acm 0.7.0.0
> ACM Microsoft PCM Converter 0001
> DMO InterVideo G726Dec DMO 0045 G726Dec.dll 1.0.0.1
> DMO WMAudio Decoder DMO 0160, 0161, 0162, 0163 WMADMOD.DLL 11.0.6000.6324
> DMO WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO 0162 WMADMOD.DLL 11.0.6000.6324
> DMO WMSpeech Decoder DMO 000A, 000B WMSPDMOD.DLL 11.0.6000.6324
> DMO Canon G.726 DMO Decoder 0045 CanonG726DMODecoder.dll 1.0.0.3
> DMO MP3 Decoder DMO 0055 mp3dmod.dll 11.0.6000.6324
>
> Video Codecs
> Type Name Format Binary Version
> ICM Microsoft RLE MRLE msrle32.dll 6.0.6000.16386
> ICM Microsoft Video 1 MSVC msvidc32.dll 6.0.6000.16386
> ICM Microsoft YUV UYVY msyuv.dll 6.0.6000.16386
> ICM Intel IYUV codec IYUV iyuv_32.dll 6.0.6000.16386
> ICM Toshiba YUV Codec Y411 tsbyuv.dll 6.0.6000.16386
> ICM Cinepak Codec by Radius cvid iccvid.dll 1.10.0.12
> ICM EA VP60® Simple Decoder VP60 vp6vfw.dll 6.1.0.5
> ICM EA VP61® Advanced Decoder VP61 vp6vfw.dll 6.1.0.5
> ICM MainConcept DV Codec 2.0.4 dvsd MCDVD_32.DLL 2.0.0.0
> ICM XviD MPEG-4 Codec XVID
> ICM DivX 5.0.5 Codec DIVX DivX.dll 5.0.5.830
> ICM Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1 MPG4 mpg4c32.dll 4.1.0.3927
> ICM Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2 MP42 mpg4c32.dll 4.1.0.3927
> ICM Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V3 MP43 mpg4c32.dll 4.1.0.3927
> DMO Mpeg4s Decoder DMO mp4s, MP4S, m4s2, M4S2 mp4sdecd.dll 11.0.6000.6324
> DMO WMV Screen decoder DMO MSS1, MSS2 wmvsdecd.dll 11.0.6000.6324
> DMO WMVideo Decoder DMO WMV1, WMV2, WMV3, WMVP, WVP2, WMVR, WMVA, WVC1
> wmvdecod.dll 11.0.6000.6324
> DMO Mpeg43 Decoder DMO mp43, MP43 mp43decd.dll 11.0.6000.6324
> DMO Mpeg4 Decoder DMO MPG4, mpg4, mp42, MP42 mpg4decd.dll 11.0.6000.6324
>
> MPEG/DVD Filters
> Type Name Binary Version
> video AVS MPEG2 Decoder Filter AVSMPEG2DecoderFilter.ax 1.1.0.140
> video InterVideo Video Decoder IVIVIDEO.ax 8.0.6.104
> video Nero Video Decoder nevideo.ax 4.6.15.0
> video Nero DVD Decoder nevideo.ax 4.6.15.0
> video Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Decoder msmpeg2vdec.dll 11.0.5840.6324
> video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> video Nero Video Decoder HD nevideohd.ax 4.6.15.0
> video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Multiplexer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Multiplexer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> video Pinnacle MPEG Adjust PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> video Pinnacle MPEG Adjust PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> video CBVA DMO wrapper filter cbva.dll 6.0.6000.16386
> video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> video Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> audio AVS Audio Decoder Filter AVSAudioDecoderFilter.ax 1.1.0.103
> audio InterVideo Audio Decoder iviaudio.ax 8.0.6.104
> audio Nero Audio Decoder 2 neaudio2.ax 4.6.15.0
> audio Pinnacle Audio Codec PcleAudioCodec.ax 1.0.145.0
> audio Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder msmpeg2adec.dll 11.0.5840.6324
> audio Pinnacle MPEG Layer-1/2 Audio Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> audio Pinnacle Audio Codec PcleAudioCodec.ax 1.0.145.0
> audio Pinnacle MPEG Layer-1/2 Audio Decoder PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> audio Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
> audio Pinnacle MPEG 2 Splicer PCLEMPEGBox.ax 5.0.365.0
>
> Plug-ins
> Type Name Binary Version
> Background Nero Fast CD-DVD Burning Plug-in NeroBurnPlugin.dll 2.0.2.6
>
>
> "BillD" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "mpotter" wrote:
>>
>> > My biggest problem with Vista is how long it takes to cache the video
>> > thumbnails when looking at a folder full of videos (maybe 20-30
>> > videos). It
>> > seriously takes up to 5 minutes!
>> > My 2nd biggest problem with Vista is with WMP 11. When I try to open a
>> > file
>> > (both music and video, though video is worse) it takes 30 seconds to a
>> > minute
>> > to load! Again, this was practically instantaneous in XP.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure you've installed incompatible codec packs or the bloated
>> Nero7 suite which comes with codecs too.
>>

Hi Zach,

I think you've helped me in the past. Thanks for all your help.

I do have Pinnacle Studio 10, Intervideo WinDVD, and Nero 7 installed. I
have some several other audio and video creation suites installed as well
which could explain all the codecs. Before simply reverting back to XP, I
may try just reinstalling Vista from scratch and seeing if I have these
problems on a fresh install with video and music files. From there, I may be
able to weed out the problem programs. Do you have any suggestions about
programs I should definitely NOT install???

As for PowerPoint 2007, I don't know if the codecs could be causing the slow
down there or not. I use timed synchronization for music lryics and the
program runs so slow that the timing is off.

***One other question . . . of the problems I listed in the original post,
are any of them common or known problems others are experiencing in Vista or
do they all seem to be a result of software/codecs installed on my computer?
This will make a big difference in deciding my next step.

Any help you can give me is appreciated. Let me know if I can provide you
with any more info.

Thanks

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

>
> It's really difficult to 'delete' codecs properly, which is one reason why
> codec packs are noxious...
>
> You have a really huge amount of codecs. What had you installed? I see a
> really old version of DivX (extremel suspect - get at least their latest
> version), Nero, Pinnacle, and Intervideo... generally most of those look out
> of date and in need of updates.
>
> Why do you have so many MPEG2 decoders installed? Had you installed codec
> packs or something on this system? It almost looked like something stomped
> on the system MP3 decoder too. That's kind of hard to tell from "here" but
> ....
>
> What had you installed? No out of box Vista system would or could look like
> this. =(
>
> --
> Speaking for myself only.
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Anyone know where I can get a Sharp G.726 Audio Codec for Vista to use with
Windows media player?
--
Jon from Annapolis


"mpotter" wrote:

> Hi Zach,
>
> I think you've helped me in the past. Thanks for all your help.
>
> I do have Pinnacle Studio 10, Intervideo WinDVD, and Nero 7 installed. I
> have some several other audio and video creation suites installed as well
> which could explain all the codecs. Before simply reverting back to XP, I
> may try just reinstalling Vista from scratch and seeing if I have these
> problems on a fresh install with video and music files. From there, I may be
> able to weed out the problem programs. Do you have any suggestions about
> programs I should definitely NOT install???
>
> As for PowerPoint 2007, I don't know if the codecs could be causing the slow
> down there or not. I use timed synchronization for music lryics and the
> program runs so slow that the timing is off.
>
> ***One other question . . . of the problems I listed in the original post,
> are any of them common or known problems others are experiencing in Vista or
> do they all seem to be a result of software/codecs installed on my computer?
> This will make a big difference in deciding my next step.
>
> Any help you can give me is appreciated. Let me know if I can provide you
> with any more info.
>
> Thanks
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>
> >
> > It's really difficult to 'delete' codecs properly, which is one reason why
> > codec packs are noxious...
> >
> > You have a really huge amount of codecs. What had you installed? I see a
> > really old version of DivX (extremel suspect - get at least their latest
> > version), Nero, Pinnacle, and Intervideo... generally most of those look out
> > of date and in need of updates.
> >
> > Why do you have so many MPEG2 decoders installed? Had you installed codec
> > packs or something on this system? It almost looked like something stomped
> > on the system MP3 decoder too. That's kind of hard to tell from "here" but
> > ....
> >
> > What had you installed? No out of box Vista system would or could look like
> > this. =(
> >
> > --
> > Speaking for myself only.
> > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Starting new threads for new issues makes things much easier to track. =)

Have you talked with Sharp here? I believe they'd be the ones who would
need to deliver a Vista-compatible codec. I don't have anything in my
personal notes about any status on that, and I don't see that they and I've
talked (not necessary, but Tim often loops me in to help). I see their VFW
and their DirectShow implementation - I don't know which one -
http://www.sharp.co.jp/viewcam/downl..._download.html
contains, but that package would be my first starting point if I were you.
If that doesn't work, you would want to contact Sharp about whether they
were going to make a Vista Media Foundation compatible version of their
codec available. If that puzzles them, they'd need to contact Microsoft...
we've worked with them before.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"Jon" <Jon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:709153E2-CAF7-44CF-9883-5EB1F2AF87B8@microsoft.com...
> Anyone know where I can get a Sharp G.726 Audio Codec for Vista to use
> with
> Windows media player?
> --
> Jon from Annapolis
>
>
> "mpotter" wrote:
>
>> Hi Zach,
>>
>> I think you've helped me in the past. Thanks for all your help.
>>
>> I do have Pinnacle Studio 10, Intervideo WinDVD, and Nero 7 installed. I
>> have some several other audio and video creation suites installed as well
>> which could explain all the codecs. Before simply reverting back to XP,
>> I
>> may try just reinstalling Vista from scratch and seeing if I have these
>> problems on a fresh install with video and music files. From there, I
>> may be
>> able to weed out the problem programs. Do you have any suggestions about
>> programs I should definitely NOT install???
>>
>> As for PowerPoint 2007, I don't know if the codecs could be causing the
>> slow
>> down there or not. I use timed synchronization for music lryics and the
>> program runs so slow that the timing is off.
>>
>> ***One other question . . . of the problems I listed in the original
>> post,
>> are any of them common or known problems others are experiencing in Vista
>> or
>> do they all seem to be a result of software/codecs installed on my
>> computer?
>> This will make a big difference in deciding my next step.
>>
>> Any help you can give me is appreciated. Let me know if I can provide
>> you
>> with any more info.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > It's really difficult to 'delete' codecs properly, which is one reason
>> > why
>> > codec packs are noxious...
>> >
>> > You have a really huge amount of codecs. What had you installed? I
>> > see a
>> > really old version of DivX (extremel suspect - get at least their
>> > latest
>> > version), Nero, Pinnacle, and Intervideo... generally most of those
>> > look out
>> > of date and in need of updates.
>> >
>> > Why do you have so many MPEG2 decoders installed? Had you installed
>> > codec
>> > packs or something on this system? It almost looked like something
>> > stomped
>> > on the system MP3 decoder too. That's kind of hard to tell from "here"
>> > but
>> > ....
>> >
>> > What had you installed? No out of box Vista system would or could look
>> > like
>> > this. =(
>> >
>> > --
>> > Speaking for myself only.
>> > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> > rights.