Dear Microsoft:

1. Easier to install overall but took 4 hours.
2. Control over display properties is now much more difficult
than it ever was under windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.
I really think you should re-examine putting it back the way it was.
3. Control over networking and file sharing is now much more
difficult and unclear than it ever was under under
windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.It is especially ambiguous
to make file sharing active. I think you should re-examine putting it
back the way it was.
4. The xml or whatever it is GUI is nice but not particularly easier. I had
to
look for the "old" controls to really get anything configured or done.
5. Everything is basicly present (almost) and some new things were added
but overall, not a big improvement over win2k or xp pro.
6. If this is a beta it is too slow. yes I DO understand debug code and
extra processess are present, but I should NOT have to run my
UNOBTANIUM to its MAX to run this slow beta.
7. I was not impressed. I unplugged that drive and put my original system
drive back in.
8. When will java security and activeX security be addressed? When will
windows be secure?
9. I bet you a thousand dollars it does not clean up after itself. As long
as files can build
up inside windows temp folders and profile temp folders and profile temp
internet folders,
and elsewhere unchecked, this will continue to be a major problem for all
Microsoft OS owners.
10. When will the OS keep the drive defragged automatically with no
interaction or need for user
intervention??
12. You should concentrate on fixing these crittical areas before you go and
customize the gui to your own liking,
making it more difficult to find what we already know how to do.
13. Why change the file system, Documents and Settings to Users? Just
exactly what is the point? There is no
argument you can possibly make tht makes more sense than leaving it
alone.
14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It aint
broke, dont fix it, he said.
15 Now you will have to debug a bunch of new stuff which used to work fine,
and it obvoius you can't make
your new interface "DO" what the old one(s) already could. In my world,
we call this
A. Make-Work
B. Wasteful.
C. Thoughtless.



James W. Long.

James W. Long wrote:
> Dear Microsoft:
>
> 1. Easier to install overall but took 4 hours.
> 2. Control over display properties is now much more difficult
> than it ever was under windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.
> I really think you should re-examine putting it back the way it
> was. 3. Control over networking and file sharing is now much more
> difficult and unclear than it ever was under under
> windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.It is especially ambiguous
> to make file sharing active. I think you should re-examine
> putting it back the way it was.
> 4. The xml or whatever it is GUI is nice but not particularly easier.
> I had to
> look for the "old" controls to really get anything configured or
> done. 5. Everything is basicly present (almost) and some new things were
> added but overall, not a big improvement over win2k or xp pro.
> 6. If this is a beta it is too slow. yes I DO understand debug code
> and extra processess are present, but I should NOT have to run my
> UNOBTANIUM to its MAX to run this slow beta.
> 7. I was not impressed. I unplugged that drive and put my original
> system drive back in.
> 8. When will java security and activeX security be addressed? When
> will windows be secure?
> 9. I bet you a thousand dollars it does not clean up after itself. As
> long as files can build
> up inside windows temp folders and profile temp folders and profile
> temp internet folders,
> and elsewhere unchecked, this will continue to be a major problem
> for all Microsoft OS owners.
> 10. When will the OS keep the drive defragged automatically with no
> interaction or need for user
> intervention??
> 12. You should concentrate on fixing these crittical areas before you
> go and customize the gui to your own liking,
> making it more difficult to find what we already know how to do.
> 13. Why change the file system, Documents and Settings to Users? Just
> exactly what is the point? There is no
> argument you can possibly make tht makes more sense than
> leaving it alone.
> 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It
> aint broke, dont fix it, he said.
> 15 Now you will have to debug a bunch of new stuff which used to
> work fine, and it obvoius you can't make
> your new interface "DO" what the old one(s) already could. In my
> world, we call this
> A. Make-Work
> B. Wasteful.
> C. Thoughtless.
>
> James W. Long.

So in other words you'd like things to stay the same as they always have
been? Or at least similar to Windows 95?

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

This is the wrong place for this. You should use the feedback link to send
this to Microsoft. This newsgroup is not a managed newsgroup and Microsoft
will not see your concerns here. This newsgroup is a mutual self-help
newsgroup.

"James W. Long" <JamesLong@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:2IKdnRD5GMCAjA_ZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
> Dear Microsoft:
>
> 1. Easier to install overall but took 4 hours.
> 2. Control over display properties is now much more difficult
> than it ever was under windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.
> I really think you should re-examine putting it back the way it was.
> 3. Control over networking and file sharing is now much more
> difficult and unclear than it ever was under under
> windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.It is especially ambiguous
> to make file sharing active. I think you should re-examine putting it
> back the way it was.
> 4. The xml or whatever it is GUI is nice but not particularly easier. I
> had to
> look for the "old" controls to really get anything configured or done.
> 5. Everything is basicly present (almost) and some new things were added
> but overall, not a big improvement over win2k or xp pro.
> 6. If this is a beta it is too slow. yes I DO understand debug code and
> extra processess are present, but I should NOT have to run my
> UNOBTANIUM to its MAX to run this slow beta.
> 7. I was not impressed. I unplugged that drive and put my original system
> drive back in.
> 8. When will java security and activeX security be addressed? When will
> windows be secure?
> 9. I bet you a thousand dollars it does not clean up after itself. As long
> as files can build
> up inside windows temp folders and profile temp folders and profile temp
> internet folders,
> and elsewhere unchecked, this will continue to be a major problem for
> all Microsoft OS owners.
> 10. When will the OS keep the drive defragged automatically with no
> interaction or need for user
> intervention??
> 12. You should concentrate on fixing these crittical areas before you go
> and customize the gui to your own liking,
> making it more difficult to find what we already know how to do.
> 13. Why change the file system, Documents and Settings to Users? Just
> exactly what is the point? There is no
> argument you can possibly make tht makes more sense than leaving it
> alone.
> 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It aint
> broke, dont fix it, he said.
> 15 Now you will have to debug a bunch of new stuff which used to work
> fine, and it obvoius you can't make
> your new interface "DO" what the old one(s) already could. In my
> world, we call this
> A. Make-Work
> B. Wasteful.
> C. Thoughtless.
>
> James W. Long.
>
>
>

Did you even read any materials on Vista????? Windows Defender will set up
automatic disc clean and defrag so you can send my $1000 through my paypal
account. Install was only 35 minutes from boot to user input for account set
up and loading programs and drivers was less than another hour. New OS are
like buying a new car-things are different and take time to get used to-this
model is now more secure. The user controls are a big part of the
security-unwanted programs can not silent install anymore-active x controls
included. Stick with XP and complain about security if you do not like
Vista-you did not give it a chance or time to learn what it has to offer.
BTW-this is a beta not finished software.

"James W. Long" wrote:

> Dear Microsoft:
>
> 1. Easier to install overall but took 4 hours.
> 2. Control over display properties is now much more difficult
> than it ever was under windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.
> I really think you should re-examine putting it back the way it was.
> 3. Control over networking and file sharing is now much more
> difficult and unclear than it ever was under under
> windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.It is especially ambiguous
> to make file sharing active. I think you should re-examine putting it
> back the way it was.
> 4. The xml or whatever it is GUI is nice but not particularly easier. I had
> to
> look for the "old" controls to really get anything configured or done.
> 5. Everything is basicly present (almost) and some new things were added
> but overall, not a big improvement over win2k or xp pro.
> 6. If this is a beta it is too slow. yes I DO understand debug code and
> extra processess are present, but I should NOT have to run my
> UNOBTANIUM to its MAX to run this slow beta.
> 7. I was not impressed. I unplugged that drive and put my original system
> drive back in.
> 8. When will java security and activeX security be addressed? When will
> windows be secure?
> 9. I bet you a thousand dollars it does not clean up after itself. As long
> as files can build
> up inside windows temp folders and profile temp folders and profile temp
> internet folders,
> and elsewhere unchecked, this will continue to be a major problem for all
> Microsoft OS owners.
> 10. When will the OS keep the drive defragged automatically with no
> interaction or need for user
> intervention??
> 12. You should concentrate on fixing these crittical areas before you go and
> customize the gui to your own liking,
> making it more difficult to find what we already know how to do.
> 13. Why change the file system, Documents and Settings to Users? Just
> exactly what is the point? There is no
> argument you can possibly make tht makes more sense than leaving it
> alone.
> 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It aint
> broke, dont fix it, he said.
> 15 Now you will have to debug a bunch of new stuff which used to work fine,
> and it obvoius you can't make
> your new interface "DO" what the old one(s) already could. In my world,
> we call this
> A. Make-Work
> B. Wasteful.
> C. Thoughtless.
>
> James W. Long.
>
>
>
>

but Colin I want him to pay me the $1000 dollars he owes me for proving him
wrong.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> This is the wrong place for this. You should use the feedback link to send
> this to Microsoft. This newsgroup is not a managed newsgroup and Microsoft
> will not see your concerns here. This newsgroup is a mutual self-help
> newsgroup.
>
> "James W. Long" <JamesLong@wowway.com> wrote in message
> news:2IKdnRD5GMCAjA_ZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
> > Dear Microsoft:
> >
> > 1. Easier to install overall but took 4 hours.
> > 2. Control over display properties is now much more difficult
> > than it ever was under windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.
> > I really think you should re-examine putting it back the way it was.
> > 3. Control over networking and file sharing is now much more
> > difficult and unclear than it ever was under under
> > windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.It is especially ambiguous
> > to make file sharing active. I think you should re-examine putting it
> > back the way it was.
> > 4. The xml or whatever it is GUI is nice but not particularly easier. I
> > had to
> > look for the "old" controls to really get anything configured or done.
> > 5. Everything is basicly present (almost) and some new things were added
> > but overall, not a big improvement over win2k or xp pro.
> > 6. If this is a beta it is too slow. yes I DO understand debug code and
> > extra processess are present, but I should NOT have to run my
> > UNOBTANIUM to its MAX to run this slow beta.
> > 7. I was not impressed. I unplugged that drive and put my original system
> > drive back in.
> > 8. When will java security and activeX security be addressed? When will
> > windows be secure?
> > 9. I bet you a thousand dollars it does not clean up after itself. As long
> > as files can build
> > up inside windows temp folders and profile temp folders and profile temp
> > internet folders,
> > and elsewhere unchecked, this will continue to be a major problem for
> > all Microsoft OS owners.
> > 10. When will the OS keep the drive defragged automatically with no
> > interaction or need for user
> > intervention??
> > 12. You should concentrate on fixing these crittical areas before you go
> > and customize the gui to your own liking,
> > making it more difficult to find what we already know how to do.
> > 13. Why change the file system, Documents and Settings to Users? Just
> > exactly what is the point? There is no
> > argument you can possibly make tht makes more sense than leaving it
> > alone.
> > 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It aint
> > broke, dont fix it, he said.
> > 15 Now you will have to debug a bunch of new stuff which used to work
> > fine, and it obvoius you can't make
> > your new interface "DO" what the old one(s) already could. In my
> > world, we call this
> > A. Make-Work
> > B. Wasteful.
> > C. Thoughtless.
> >
> > James W. Long.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Add that thought to your lotto prayer.

"daddy3" <daddy3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8C756B70-94CB-4C9B-A36A-5281DCA414AC@microsoft.com...
> but Colin I want him to pay me the $1000 dollars he owes me for proving
> him
> wrong.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> This is the wrong place for this. You should use the feedback link to
>> send
>> this to Microsoft. This newsgroup is not a managed newsgroup and
>> Microsoft
>> will not see your concerns here. This newsgroup is a mutual self-help
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> "James W. Long" <JamesLong@wowway.com> wrote in message
>> news:2IKdnRD5GMCAjA_ZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@wideopenwest.com...
>> > Dear Microsoft:
>> >
>> > 1. Easier to install overall but took 4 hours.
>> > 2. Control over display properties is now much more difficult
>> > than it ever was under windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.
>> > I really think you should re-examine putting it back the way it was.
>> > 3. Control over networking and file sharing is now much more
>> > difficult and unclear than it ever was under under
>> > windows 95, 98 me, nt 200 and xp.It is especially ambiguous
>> > to make file sharing active. I think you should re-examine putting
>> > it
>> > back the way it was.
>> > 4. The xml or whatever it is GUI is nice but not particularly easier. I
>> > had to
>> > look for the "old" controls to really get anything configured or
>> > done.
>> > 5. Everything is basicly present (almost) and some new things were
>> > added
>> > but overall, not a big improvement over win2k or xp pro.
>> > 6. If this is a beta it is too slow. yes I DO understand debug code and
>> > extra processess are present, but I should NOT have to run my
>> > UNOBTANIUM to its MAX to run this slow beta.
>> > 7. I was not impressed. I unplugged that drive and put my original
>> > system
>> > drive back in.
>> > 8. When will java security and activeX security be addressed? When will
>> > windows be secure?
>> > 9. I bet you a thousand dollars it does not clean up after itself. As
>> > long
>> > as files can build
>> > up inside windows temp folders and profile temp folders and profile
>> > temp
>> > internet folders,
>> > and elsewhere unchecked, this will continue to be a major problem for
>> > all Microsoft OS owners.
>> > 10. When will the OS keep the drive defragged automatically with no
>> > interaction or need for user
>> > intervention??
>> > 12. You should concentrate on fixing these crittical areas before you
>> > go
>> > and customize the gui to your own liking,
>> > making it more difficult to find what we already know how to do.
>> > 13. Why change the file system, Documents and Settings to Users? Just
>> > exactly what is the point? There is no
>> > argument you can possibly make tht makes more sense than leaving
>> > it
>> > alone.
>> > 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It
>> > aint
>> > broke, dont fix it, he said.
>> > 15 Now you will have to debug a bunch of new stuff which used to work
>> > fine, and it obvoius you can't make
>> > your new interface "DO" what the old one(s) already could. In my
>> > world, we call this
>> > A. Make-Work
>> > B. Wasteful.
>> > C. Thoughtless.
>> >
>> > James W. Long.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

> 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It aint
> broke, dont fix it, he said.

I guess your Grandfather is still running Windows 3.1 :-)

ROFL ;o)

--
Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
"Angel Massa" <angel2@puntweb.com> wrote in message
news:eXpg%23oSkGHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It aint
>> broke, dont fix it, he said.
>
> I guess your Grandfather is still running Windows 3.1 :-)
>

At least he read my tips...


"Jane C" wrote:

> ROFL ;o)
>
> --
> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation
> "Angel Massa" <angel2@puntweb.com> wrote in message
> news:eXpg%23oSkGHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> 14. You all could have learned something from my Grandfather. If It aint
> >> broke, dont fix it, he said.
> >
> > I guess your Grandfather is still running Windows 3.1 :-)
> >
>

> 2. [snip] I really think you should re-examine putting it back the way it
> was.

> 3. [snip] I think you should re-examine putting it back the way it was.

> 12. [snip] making it more difficult to find what we already know how to
> do.

> 13. Why change the file system, Documents and Settings to Users? [snip]
> leaving it alone.

> 14. [snip] If It aint broke, dont fix it, he said.

> 15 [snip] you can't make your new interface "DO" what the old one(s)
> already could.

It sounds to me like you're just dead-set against any change.





> I bet you a thousand dollars

Yeah, place a bet against a company with billions in the bank--I'm sure you
have them sweating now... :-p