Vista Tutorial - Temperature Monitors

Is there a way to monitor your hard drive temperatures in Vista without third
party software?

Has anyone found third party software that will work with Vista to monitor
hard drive temperatures?
Thanks
Irv

Irv wrote on 20-4-2007 :
> Is there a way to monitor your hard drive temperatures in Vista
> without third party software?
>
> Has anyone found third party software that will work with Vista to
> monitor hard drive temperatures?
> Thanks
> Irv

Speedfan works with Vista:
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php

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"Irv" <Irv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a way to monitor your hard drive temperatures in Vista without
> third
> party software?

No. It's simply not possible. The ability to monitor hardware components
depends on the hardware manufacturers writing drivers and making software
available that both expose this data to the system. And it's very specific
to what hardware you're using so there isn't really anything in Vista itself
that I'm aware of (and if there was, it would simply be using the data
exposed by drivers, for reasons I've already covered).

> Has anyone found third party software that will work with Vista to monitor
> hard drive temperatures?

Sure. http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
Again, it assumes the data is made available by the drivers your hardware
manufacturer provide.

Actually you can talk to the hardware directly (if you know how). The
hardware BIOS has to support the appropriate command set to allow you to
interrogate the temperature.

Joe

"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Irv" <Irv@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:040D1840-2A98-4659-B208-AA8ACC75C87A@microsoft.com...
>> Is there a way to monitor your hard drive temperatures in Vista without
>> third
>> party software?
>
> No. It's simply not possible. The ability to monitor hardware components
> depends on the hardware manufacturers writing drivers and making software
> available that both expose this data to the system. And it's very specific
> to what hardware you're using so there isn't really anything in Vista
> itself that I'm aware of (and if there was, it would simply be using the
> data exposed by drivers, for reasons I've already covered).
>
>> Has anyone found third party software that will work with Vista to
>> monitor
>> hard drive temperatures?
>
> Sure. http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
> Again, it assumes the data is made available by the drivers your hardware
> manufacturer provide.
>

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:52:08 -0500, "Joe Guidera"

>Actually you can talk to the hardware directly (if you know how). The
>hardware BIOS has to support the appropriate command set to allow you to
>interrogate the temperature.

You can get the HD temperature via SMART, and several utilities do
just that. The trouble is, they need admin rights to do that, and
Vista does not allow such rights to be conferred to items in the
startup axis. So you have...
- works
- runs automatically
....pick one.

Reading processor and motherboard temperatures is another matter;
there's no standard interface, so you have to address the various
chipsets directly, and that appears to be difficult. I see many tools
that claim to offer that functionality, but fail to.



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latest version of Speed Fan do work with with vista and do not require admin rights to run. also the driver is signed to work.
can read, cpu, case and drive temps if the sensors are available.



mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in message news:61q033dkrf4mes33aul42ju00esjtllm08@4ax.com...
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:52:08 -0500, "Joe Guidera"

>Actually you can talk to the hardware directly (if you know how). The
>hardware BIOS has to support the appropriate command set to allow you to
>interrogate the temperature.

You can get the HD temperature via SMART, and several utilities do
just that. The trouble is, they need admin rights to do that, and
Vista does not allow such rights to be conferred to items in the
startup axis. So you have...
- works
- runs automatically
...pick one.

Reading processor and motherboard temperatures is another matter;
there's no standard interface, so you have to address the various
chipsets directly, and that appears to be difficult. I see many tools
that claim to offer that functionality, but fail to.



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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 07:50:00 -0500, "mikeyhsd"

>latest version of Speed Fan do work with with vista and do not require admin rights to run. also the driver is signed to work.
>can read, cpu, case and drive temps if the sensors are available.

Ahh... that's the way it would have to be done, but it's a pop-up
dialog; what I'd really like is HD temperatures shown and updated in
the System Tray. There's a free tool that does this in XP...

http://private.peterlink.ru/tochinov/

....but in Vista it doesn't get the right to access SMART if it is
autorun. I doubt if it has a driver or service component, which is
the approved way of working around this in Vista.



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