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04-21-2007
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| | Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've lost so much data I'm going crazy. What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost with Vista. Whatya think? Worth a try? |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? Hi, If you're sure that you really don't want Vista -- and that you can get your money back -- return the Vista machine. If Circuit City claims they have no XP PCs left, Dell is now offering XP on their machines again, plus I'm sure there are other brands that you can buy that come with XP as its operating system. Alan <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com... > Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so > utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole > it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've > lost so much data I'm going crazy. > > What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and > ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day > satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to > pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost > with Vista. > > Whatya think? Worth a try? |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? It is your decision. No one here can answer for Circuit City as to what their response will be. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com... > Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so > utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole > it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've > lost so much data I'm going crazy. > > What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and > ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day > satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to > pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost > with Vista. > > Whatya think? Worth a try? |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? 46erjoe@nospam.com wrote: > Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so > utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole > it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've > lost so much data I'm going crazy. > > What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and > ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day > satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to > pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost > with Vista. > > Whatya think? Worth a try? The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP. |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? "Otto Normalverbraucher" <Otto@Normalverbraucher.com> wrote in message news:mMoWh.134$zI1.60@newsfe2-win.ntli.net... > 46erjoe@nospam.com wrote: >> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so >> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole >> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've >> lost so much data I'm going crazy. >> <snip> > > The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP. > They're not?? What about all these??: XP>> = Windows XP Location Vista>> = Windows Vista Location =============================== XP>> \Documents and Settings Vista>> \Users XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Documents XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Music XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Pictures XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Videos XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookie Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network Shortcuts XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer Shortcuts XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users Vista>> \ProgramData XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data Vista>> \ProgramData XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop Vista>> \Users\Public\Desktop XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents Vista>> \Users\Public\Documents XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites Vista>> \Users\Public\Favorites XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates XP>> \Documents and Settings\Default User Vista>> \Users\Default =============================== Why so many changes? Simple. This is by design. All the changes, including widespread renaming of "default" folders and apps, rearranging of menus with no rhyme or reason, and apparently for no real purpose, confusing new graphic interface, are all necessary to make Vista look sufficiently different from previous versions of Windows. This only serves one purpose; to create the illusion that Vista is a new OS. Dig deep enough and you can find dialogs and graphics leftover from Windows 3.11. What is truly amazing is just how many people continue to fall for this old and tired MS sales tactic. Otherwise, people would see it for what it really is, just another XP Service Pack, or as I prefer to call it, Windows 95 v4.0 Consider, no one will ever offer an explanation as to WHY all these system-wide changes were implemented, much less needed. This is just another example of how the Marketing Dept. is now the driving force at Microsoft. -- ======================================= "Have you ever noticed that it is only drug dealers and computer companies that call their clients 'users'?" ======================================= |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? 46erjoe@nospam.com wrote: > Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so > utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole > it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've > lost so much data I'm going crazy. > > What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and > ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day > satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to > pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost > with Vista. > > Whatya think? Worth a try? Be sure and go when there's a lot of people in the store and speak with a loud voice so everyone can hear. Alias |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? Well, if they say they've got a 30-day period in which to return something, that's gotta mean SOMETHING, right? If you're dissatisfied with it, don't see why their satisfaction-guaranteed promise wouldn't apply. Do you have a copy of the policy? Have you reread it? You might want to check, though, for the dreaded "restocking fee." They may actually charge you something to take it back. <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com... > Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so > utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole > it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've > lost so much data I'm going crazy. > > What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and > ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day > satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to > pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost > with Vista. > > Whatya think? Worth a try? |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? "john" <john@msn.com> wrote in news:O46ujUChHHA.2640@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: > "Otto Normalverbraucher" <Otto@Normalverbraucher.com> wrote in > message news:mMoWh.134$zI1.60@newsfe2-win.ntli.net... >> 46erjoe@nospam.com wrote: >>> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm >>> so utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of >>> the hole it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, >>> locations, etc. I've lost so much data I'm going crazy. >>> > <snip> >> >> The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP. >> > > They're not?? What about all these??: > > XP>> = Windows XP Location > Vista>> = Windows Vista Location > > =============================== > > XP>> \Documents and Settings > Vista>> \Users > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Documents > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Music > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Pictures > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Videos > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookie > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network > Shortcuts > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer > Shortcuts > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application > Data Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary > Internet Files Vista>> > \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet > Files > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users > Vista>> \ProgramData > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data > Vista>> \ProgramData > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop > Vista>> \Users\Public\Desktop > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents > Vista>> \Users\Public\Documents > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites > Vista>> \Users\Public\Favorites > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu > Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates > Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\Default User > Vista>> \Users\Default > > =============================== Folder/File structure is still exactly the same, just organized differently. Personally I prefer the way it is in Vista. Does it really matter if you have to go to a Documents folder to get to a user, or a User Folder to get to a document? I 'd rather go to a User folder to get to a document myself. As stated before with indexing you really don't need to use explorer anymore anyways to find a file. just type it in the search box. Granted there are certain situation where you need to use Explorer but on the most part you dont need to anymore. -- Hope this helps Dave |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? Agreed. When I returned on many years ago, they had a 15% restocking fee if you couldn't find something else to replace it with at a higher price. Even then it was a hassle. "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OsXsgfChHHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Well, if they say they've got a 30-day period in which to return > something, that's gotta mean SOMETHING, right? > If you're dissatisfied with it, don't see why their > satisfaction-guaranteed promise wouldn't apply. > Do you have a copy of the policy? Have you reread it? > > You might want to check, though, for the dreaded "restocking fee." They > may actually charge you something to take it back. > > > > <46erjoe@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:i23k23htr8b3o5gselrnijamvptjedle0f@4ax.com... >> Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so >> utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole >> it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've >> lost so much data I'm going crazy. >> >> What I'd like to do is to take the Gateway back to Circuit City and >> ask for a replacement equivalent unit with XP on it before the 30-day >> satisfaction guaranteed promise is still valid. I'd of course have to >> pull off whatever documents I've already created, but I'm just lost >> with Vista. >> >> Whatya think? Worth a try? > |
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04-21-2007
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| | Re: Any chance of returning Vista for XP at Circuit City?? john wrote: > "Otto Normalverbraucher" <Otto@Normalverbraucher.com> wrote in message > news:mMoWh.134$zI1.60@newsfe2-win.ntli.net... > >>46erjoe@nospam.com wrote: >> >>>Bought a nice Gateway PC with Vista on it at Circuit City. I'm so >>>utterly lost with Vista I don't think I'll ever climb out of the hole >>>it put me in. Mostly the filing/folder system, locations, etc. I've >>>lost so much data I'm going crazy. >>> > > <snip> > >>The filing & folder locations aren't that different to XP. >> > > > They're not?? What about all these??: > > XP>> = Windows XP Location > Vista>> = Windows Vista Location > > =============================== > > XP>> \Documents and Settings > Vista>> \Users > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Documents > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Music > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Pictures > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\Videos > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookie > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network Shortcuts > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer Shortcuts > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files > Vista>> \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet > Files > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users > Vista>> \ProgramData > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data > Vista>> \ProgramData > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop > Vista>> \Users\Public\Desktop > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents > Vista>> \Users\Public\Documents > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites > Vista>> \Users\Public\Favorites > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu > Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates > Vista>> \ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates > > XP>> \Documents and Settings\Default User > Vista>> \Users\Default > > =============================== > > Why so many changes? Simple. This is by design. > > All the changes, including widespread renaming of "default" folders and > apps, rearranging of menus with no rhyme or reason, and apparently for no > real purpose, confusing new graphic interface, are all necessary to make > Vista look sufficiently different from previous versions of Windows. This > only serves one purpose; to create the illusion that Vista is a new OS. Dig > deep enough and you can find dialogs and graphics leftover from Windows > 3.11. > What is truly amazing is just how many people continue to fall for this old > and tired MS sales tactic. > > Otherwise, people would see it for what it really is, just another XP > Service Pack, or as I prefer to call it, Windows 95 v4.0 > > Consider, no one will ever offer an explanation as to WHY all these > system-wide changes were implemented, much less needed. This is just another > example of how the Marketing Dept. is now the driving force at Microsoft. > It's apparent that you're easily confused and have no real understanding of Windows, MS or Vista or even computers. Don't you think it's about time for you to switch to something more er...childishly designed like Ubuttoo. I hear that flipping that cubie thing is not very challenging at all and really fun! (smirk, snort, belch) Frank |
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