Vista - Vista & Frantic Disk Accessing

Hi All

Hope somebody can answer this.

Have a brand new computer delivered with Vista Home Premium.

Once every day when I first start the4 computer there is 20 to 30 mins of
frantic disk activity and a loss of some disk space. Can anyone explain
what Vista is doing for me. Have checked the following and it's not:

>Restore Point (not daily and last one 3 days ago)

>Windows Update (does it when no internet connection)

>Anti Virus Software (happened before I installed it)

>Can find NO files with relevant date, have even tried viewing System and
>Hidden Files but nothing big enough to account for the loss of disk space.

Perhaps I am just imagining it, but if anyone out there has any idea as to
what Vista is doing, I would be forever grateful. Could I be imagining the
disk space loss, could it just be changes to the page file?????

Anyone who knows, help!

JF

Vista has some "hidden" things working in the background...

like FILE INDEXING to make search faster
SUPERFETCH to make programs load faster
and DISK DEFRAGMENTING that works also in the background....

you can disable any of these from > Control panel (in the classic view)>
Administrative tools>
Services... however I would suggest that if you are not comfortable with
changing such settings to just leave them as they are.. the indexing will
stop thrashing after some time (according to the amount of files you have).

Yes I know.. many people hate these "features" and I can understand them
100%

I would vote for a nice GUI options with buttons that people can find easily
to turn these
tools on and off according to what they prefer.. not things hidden as
services that force your
computer to thrash its disk...

Also make sure you have no viruses and adware spyware.




"Juliet Foxtrot" <sector08.dear@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All
>
> Hope somebody can answer this.
>
> Have a brand new computer delivered with Vista Home Premium.
>
> Once every day when I first start the4 computer there is 20 to 30 mins of
> frantic disk activity and a loss of some disk space. Can anyone explain
> what Vista is doing for me. Have checked the following and it's not:
>
>>Restore Point (not daily and last one 3 days ago)
>
>>Windows Update (does it when no internet connection)
>
>>Anti Virus Software (happened before I installed it)
>
>>Can find NO files with relevant date, have even tried viewing System and
>>Hidden Files but nothing big enough to account for the loss of disk space.
>
> Perhaps I am just imagining it, but if anyone out there has any idea as to
> what Vista is doing, I would be forever grateful. Could I be imagining
> the disk space loss, could it just be changes to the page file?????
>
> Anyone who knows, help!
>
> JF
>

Juliet Foxtrot wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Hope somebody can answer this.
>
> Have a brand new computer delivered with Vista Home Premium.
>
> Once every day when I first start the4 computer there is 20 to 30 mins of
> frantic disk activity and a loss of some disk space. Can anyone explain
> what Vista is doing for me. Have checked the following and it's not:
>
>
>>Restore Point (not daily and last one 3 days ago)
>
>
>>Windows Update (does it when no internet connection)
>
>
>>Anti Virus Software (happened before I installed it)
>
>
>>Can find NO files with relevant date, have even tried viewing System and
>>Hidden Files but nothing big enough to account for the loss of disk space.
>
>
> Perhaps I am just imagining it, but if anyone out there has any idea as to
> what Vista is doing, I would be forever grateful. Could I be imagining the
> disk space loss, could it just be changes to the page file?????
>
> Anyone who knows, help!
>
> JF
>
>
Don't worry about it. It's supposed to be doing that and after it gets
through indexing and superfetch "learns" your computer habits it will stop.
It will not ruin or damage you hard drive.
Frank

it will never stop if you keep changing, files on your computer...
If you handle a huge amount of data indexing is a problem..
if you keep writing files to dvds and deleting them indexing gives
erroneous results.. as this has been reported again and again
not only with vista indexing but also with google desktop search and others.

Vista indexing is an effort to keep up with what other companies
are doing, see apple and google. Im not sure its the best way...

basically indexing is for the "normal" user.. not a power user...



"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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> Juliet Foxtrot wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Hope somebody can answer this.
>>
>> Have a brand new computer delivered with Vista Home Premium.
>>
>> Once every day when I first start the4 computer there is 20 to 30 mins of
>> frantic disk activity and a loss of some disk space. Can anyone explain
>> what Vista is doing for me. Have checked the following and it's not:
>>
>>
>>>Restore Point (not daily and last one 3 days ago)
>>
>>
>>>Windows Update (does it when no internet connection)
>>
>>
>>>Anti Virus Software (happened before I installed it)
>>
>>
>>>Can find NO files with relevant date, have even tried viewing System and
>>>Hidden Files but nothing big enough to account for the loss of disk
>>>space.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps I am just imagining it, but if anyone out there has any idea as
>> to what Vista is doing, I would be forever grateful. Could I be
>> imagining the disk space loss, could it just be changes to the page
>> file?????
>>
>> Anyone who knows, help!
>>
>> JF
> Don't worry about it. It's supposed to be doing that and after it gets
> through indexing and superfetch "learns" your computer habits it will
> stop.
> It will not ruin or damage you hard drive.
> Frank

Thanks all. Taken on board. Will continue to investigate.

Cheers

JF


"Former captain of the Enterprise" <1111@11.11> wrote in message
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> it will never stop if you keep changing, files on your computer...
> If you handle a huge amount of data indexing is a problem..
> if you keep writing files to dvds and deleting them indexing gives
> erroneous results.. as this has been reported again and again
> not only with vista indexing but also with google desktop search and
> others.
>
> Vista indexing is an effort to keep up with what other companies
> are doing, see apple and google. Im not sure its the best way...
>
> basically indexing is for the "normal" user.. not a power user...
>
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:%2381VzIFhHHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Juliet Foxtrot wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Hope somebody can answer this.
>>>
>>> Have a brand new computer delivered with Vista Home Premium.
>>>
>>> Once every day when I first start the4 computer there is 20 to 30 mins
>>> of frantic disk activity and a loss of some disk space. Can anyone
>>> explain what Vista is doing for me. Have checked the following and it's
>>> not:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Restore Point (not daily and last one 3 days ago)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Windows Update (does it when no internet connection)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anti Virus Software (happened before I installed it)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can find NO files with relevant date, have even tried viewing System and
>>>>Hidden Files but nothing big enough to account for the loss of disk
>>>>space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps I am just imagining it, but if anyone out there has any idea as
>>> to what Vista is doing, I would be forever grateful. Could I be
>>> imagining the disk space loss, could it just be changes to the page
>>> file?????
>>>
>>> Anyone who knows, help!
>>>
>>> JF
>> Don't worry about it. It's supposed to be doing that and after it gets
>> through indexing and superfetch "learns" your computer habits it will
>> stop.
>> It will not ruin or damage you hard drive.
>> Frank
>
>
>

Former captain of the Enterprise wrote:

> it will never stop if you keep changing, files on your computer...
> If you handle a huge amount of data indexing is a problem..
> if you keep writing files to dvds and deleting them indexing gives
> erroneous results.. as this has been reported again and again
> not only with vista indexing but also with google desktop search and others.
>
> Vista indexing is an effort to keep up with what other companies
> are doing, see apple and google. Im not sure its the best way...
>
> basically indexing is for the "normal" user.. not a power user...
>
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:%2381VzIFhHHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>>Juliet Foxtrot wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi All
>>>
>>>Hope somebody can answer this.
>>>
>>>Have a brand new computer delivered with Vista Home Premium.
>>>
>>>Once every day when I first start the4 computer there is 20 to 30 mins of
>>>frantic disk activity and a loss of some disk space. Can anyone explain
>>>what Vista is doing for me. Have checked the following and it's not:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Restore Point (not daily and last one 3 days ago)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Windows Update (does it when no internet connection)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anti Virus Software (happened before I installed it)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can find NO files with relevant date, have even tried viewing System and
>>>>Hidden Files but nothing big enough to account for the loss of disk
>>>>space.
>>>
>>>
>>>Perhaps I am just imagining it, but if anyone out there has any idea as
>>>to what Vista is doing, I would be forever grateful. Could I be
>>>imagining the disk space loss, could it just be changes to the page
>>>file?????
>>>
>>>Anyone who knows, help!
>>>
>>>JF
>>
>>Don't worry about it. It's supposed to be doing that and after it gets
>>through indexing and superfetch "learns" your computer habits it will
>>stop.
>>It will not ruin or damage you hard drive.
>>Frank
>
>
>

If you are changing files and folders on a daily basis you need to turn
off indexing cause you don't need it and it's not made for that type of
use.
Otherwise it is a useful tool for most users including so-called "power
users" [sic].
Frank

yes... I agree with you .. but I would prefer MS to have made
these services more apparent by adding buttons so people can turn them on
and off

you realize how many times people ask why the disk is thrashing all the
time?

I have seen this question at least 20 times in this newsgroup

and another 5 posts at least saying that indexing is giving them erroneous
results...

lol my personal opinion is that indexing is a bad idea they way its
implemented...





"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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> Former captain of the Enterprise wrote:
>
>> it will never stop if you keep changing, files on your computer...
>> If you handle a huge amount of data indexing is a problem..
>> if you keep writing files to dvds and deleting them indexing gives
>> erroneous results.. as this has been reported again and again
>> not only with vista indexing but also with google desktop search and
>> others.
>>
>> Vista indexing is an effort to keep up with what other companies
>> are doing, see apple and google. Im not sure its the best way...
>>
>> basically indexing is for the "normal" user.. not a power user...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
>> news:%2381VzIFhHHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Juliet Foxtrot wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All
>>>>
>>>>Hope somebody can answer this.
>>>>
>>>>Have a brand new computer delivered with Vista Home Premium.
>>>>
>>>>Once every day when I first start the4 computer there is 20 to 30 mins
>>>>of frantic disk activity and a loss of some disk space. Can anyone
>>>>explain what Vista is doing for me. Have checked the following and it's
>>>>not:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Restore Point (not daily and last one 3 days ago)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Windows Update (does it when no internet connection)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Anti Virus Software (happened before I installed it)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Can find NO files with relevant date, have even tried viewing System
>>>>>and Hidden Files but nothing big enough to account for the loss of disk
>>>>>space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps I am just imagining it, but if anyone out there has any idea as
>>>>to what Vista is doing, I would be forever grateful. Could I be
>>>>imagining the disk space loss, could it just be changes to the page
>>>>file?????
>>>>
>>>>Anyone who knows, help!
>>>>
>>>>JF
>>>
>>>Don't worry about it. It's supposed to be doing that and after it gets
>>>through indexing and superfetch "learns" your computer habits it will
>>>stop.
>>>It will not ruin or damage you hard drive.
>>>Frank
>>
>>
>>
>
> If you are changing files and folders on a daily basis you need to turn
> off indexing cause you don't need it and it's not made for that type of
> use.
> Otherwise it is a useful tool for most users including so-called "power
> users" [sic].
> Frank

Former captain of the Enterprise wrote:

> yes... I agree with you .. but I would prefer MS to have made
> these services more apparent by adding buttons so people can turn them on
> and off
>
> you realize how many times people ask why the disk is thrashing all the
> time?
>
> I have seen this question at least 20 times in this newsgroup
>
> and another 5 posts at least saying that indexing is giving them erroneous
> results...
>
> lol my personal opinion is that indexing is a bad idea they way its
> implemented...
>


Cause 20 people wondered what was going on with their HDD and 5 saying
they have erroneous results you think its a "bad idea"?
So...I'm all for minority opinions being heard.
But I'm against one person yelling fire in a crowed room.
Frank

you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.. for each one person who is
wondering about something
here, you can count on hudreds of people that are not here, but are
wondering the same thing.

The "bad idea" is my personal opinion as I made clear in my post. You can
agree with it or not..

you free to have your own.



"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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> Former captain of the Enterprise wrote:
>
>> yes... I agree with you .. but I would prefer MS to have made
>> these services more apparent by adding buttons so people can turn them on
>> and off
>>
>> you realize how many times people ask why the disk is thrashing all the
>> time?
>>
>> I have seen this question at least 20 times in this newsgroup
>>
>> and another 5 posts at least saying that indexing is giving them
>> erroneous results...
>>
>> lol my personal opinion is that indexing is a bad idea they way its
>> implemented...
>>
>
>
> Cause 20 people wondered what was going on with their HDD and 5 saying
> they have erroneous results you think its a "bad idea"?
> So...I'm all for minority opinions being heard.
> But I'm against one person yelling fire in a crowed room.
> Frank

Former captain of the Enterprise wrote:
> you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.. for each one person who is
> wondering about something
> here, you can count on hudreds of people that are not here, but are
> wondering the same thing.

That's clearly an assumption of something not supported by any provable
numerical extrapolation.
Or else it's something you personally wish were true yet have no proof of.
Frank