"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I will bet that you have multiple hard drives installed on your computer.
>If you do, get back to me as I know how to fix your problem.
>
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>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "AMD" <s@s.com> wrote in message
> news:eKfLKJkhHHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
>> news:uq67b$jhHHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> AMD wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23AOzYqjhHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>AMD wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"DigitalBlade" <Yavor.Mishev@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1177390688.387475.281950@t38g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not to piss anyone off :P, but I just heard someone saying that Vista
>>>>>>>is doing pretty bad, it's very hard to make it compatible with this
>>>>>>>and that, and manufacturers are thinking of reverting back to XP...
>>>>>>>Is
>>>>>>>that pure B.S. or is there a grain of truth in it? I know XP will not
>>>>>>>be offered as an OEM OS starting Jan 2008, which makes this thing I
>>>>>>>heard all the harder to believe.... What do you guys think? Is Vista
>>>>>>>going down the Millenium path?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vista currently is extremly buggy. Networking does not work. Media
>>>>>>sharing does not work correctly either with connecting and the music
>>>>>>folders being listed and playing music in the correct order. the songs
>>>>>>are not played in the correct order nor are they listefd in the
>>>>>>correct order. So media sharing sucks and is completely broken. It is
>>>>>>incompatible with a ton of stuff. Vista computers will a lot of times
>>>>>>not boot after you install vista on a home made pc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It maybe should not be related to ME though. It's totally different. I
>>>>>>never had problems with Me, but vista sure does not work for me at
>>>>>>all. Good thing i only paid $50 for Ultimate not upgrade either.
>>>>>>friend has access to MS store. Told me to pay her $50. cool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wish i could have her take vista back to MS store for a refund it
>>>>>>sucks so bad. I'd get rid of it in a heart beat if i could.
>>>>>
>>>>>So...you did post your problems here and ask for help right?
>>>>>Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank, thanks for asking.
>>>> Yes. I have posted about the networking, no help there. I've posted
>>>> about the media sharing, same thread as networking and another one, no
>>>> help either. I also have issues with I can't boot after i install vista
>>>> as it says wrong system disk, put in the install disc to boot. I've
>>>> posted about that too, no help yet entirely.
>>>>
>>>> the threads in this general group are called,
>>>>
>>>> pc won't boot after vista installed
>>>> media and sharing issues in vista
>>>> problems with vista sharing and music
>>>>
>>>> then there's networking threads in the vista.networking_sharing group
>>>> and the vista.music_pictures_video group.
>>>>
>>>> I placed in the vista.installation_setup group about my can't boot
>>>> problem too.
>>>>
>>>> Not really any help that has worked at all yet.
>>>>
>>>> I wanna get rid ofmy vista if i can't get things working.
>>> Well it sounds like you need to do a clean install.
>>> I have all of my network working and I'm running three Vista's, three XP
>>> Pro's, Server 2003 SP2 (standard), Windows Home Server CTP and even
>>> WinSE on virtual pc 2007 and they can all communicate with each other.
>>> So we know networking works in Vista.
>>> I used media sharing with WHS and between two Vista's one is x32 and the
>>> other x64.
>>> I have over 5,000 music files, wma's, mp3's a few wav's and some iTunes
>>> on an XP Pro but all on WMP 11 (same as Vista's) with an extensive
>>> library and I know you have to pay strict attention to the information
>>> in the advanced tag editor in order for the library to function
>>> correctly and as you want it to.
>>> I have software from just about every major manufacturer installed and
>>> working. I did have to install some of it using compatibility mode but
>>> it all functions normally.
>>> As for the not booting problem, I'd check the bios setting to try and
>>> solve that problem.
>>> If we can be of any help to you, just post.
>>> Good luck.
>>> Frank
>>
>> Thanks Frank.
>> I have clean install more then once and get the same issue. Bios is set
>> correctly as well for which drive to boot from etc.
>>
>> The media sharing doesn't work from my xbox 1 which is modded to stream
>> media. If I try to browse the lan it won't show unless vista is off. it
>> won't get the media in correct order from the media sharing. but if i
>> browse via the network it is fine so long as vista pc is off.
>>
>> i do know that networking does work in part, but for me it's broken.
>>
>> i truly have no clue what to do and am so gratefull to people for trying
>> to help.
>>
>

Yeah, I have raid 0 and a single for backup. i have though disabled the
backup hard drive and get the same issue.

DigitalBlade wrote:
> Not to piss anyone off :P, but I just heard someone saying that Vista
> is doing pretty bad, it's very hard to make it compatible with this
> and that, and manufacturers are thinking of reverting back to XP... Is
> that pure B.S. or is there a grain of truth in it? I know XP will not
> be offered as an OEM OS starting Jan 2008, which makes this thing I
> heard all the harder to believe.... What do you guys think? Is Vista
> going down the Millenium path?
>

Yes!

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post
in any of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.
That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

ME? Jeeze I had that os on my system fr a new york minute. Dumped it quick.
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> "friend has access to MS store. Told me to pay her $50. cool."
> Don't say that to loud.
> Your friend could be quickly fired for abusing the privilege.
> It has happened in the past.
>
> Your friend has at least two major violations of Company Store policy.
> She should be very careful if she likes her current employment or what
> ever affiliation gave her the access.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "AMD" <s@s.com> wrote in message
> news:ODtoCBjhHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "DigitalBlade" <Yavor.Mishev@gmail.com> wrote in message Vista currently
>> is extremly buggy. Networking does not work. Media sharing does not work
>> correctly either with connecting and the music folders being listed and
>> playing music in the correct order. the songs are not played in the
>> correct order nor are they listefd in the correct order. So media sharing
>> sucks and is completely broken. It is incompatible with a ton of stuff.
>> Vista computers will a lot of times not boot after you install vista on a
>> home made pc.
>>
>> It maybe should not be related to ME though. It's totally different. I
>> never had problems with Me, but vista sure does not work for me at all.
>> Good thing i only paid $50 for Ultimate not upgrade either. friend has
>> access to MS store. Told me to pay her $50. cool.
>>
>> I wish i could have her take vista back to MS store for a refund it sucks
>> so bad. I'd get rid of it in a heart beat if i could.
>

If the past is any indication, Trials of Vista will be available soon
by downloads as well as included in some Microsoft Press books.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Doris Day" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Can this test be performed without spending hundreds of dollars? If
> so, how?
>
> Love and Kisses,
> Doris
>
>
>
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>
>

Exactly my experience with Vista as well. Vista 64 Ultimate on my Shuttle
desktop gaming machine, and Vista 32 Ultimate on my Dell 9300 laptop. Both
perform flawlessly. I thought I would see how it does on older equipment so
I installed it on my wife's Gateway 450SX4 and also on an IBM Thinkpad T22.
Both ran Vista without problems but were on the slow side due to only 512MB
of RAM.
--------------------
Hindsight is always 20/20.



"Sharon " <sharon_tan7REMOVETHIS@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
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> Personally I have had no problems with Vista Ultimate which I am using on
> a new custom built PC. OEM Vista. It is a very advanced and sleek OS which
> I find a joy to use. The leap from XP to Vista was well worth it.
>
> "DigitalBlade" <Yavor.Mishev@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1177390688.387475.281950@t38g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> Not to piss anyone off :P, but I just heard someone saying that Vista
>> is doing pretty bad, it's very hard to make it compatible with this
>> and that, and manufacturers are thinking of reverting back to XP... Is
>> that pure B.S. or is there a grain of truth in it? I know XP will not
>> be offered as an OEM OS starting Jan 2008, which makes this thing I
>> heard all the harder to believe.... What do you guys think? Is Vista
>> going down the Millenium path?
>>
>

Vista is OEM on sub $400 Dell desktops. Check out their website.

"Stephan Rose" <kermos.remove.no.spam@no.somrek.spam.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:25:04 -0700, Doris Day <nospam@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>> It depends on what reports you read.
>>> The critics say all is bad while Microsoft suggests all is great.
>>> Like many things, the true picture is likely somewhere in the middle.
>>>
>>> Dell recently added Windows XP to some models.
>>> Windows XP has always been available on some Dell models and now there
>>> are more.
>>> The critics want to read more into this than is there.
>>>
>>> In the past many OEMs continued with the previous OS for some time
>>> after the release of the new so Dell and the other OEMs selling
>>> computers with Windows XP is nothing new.
>>>
>>> Windows XP is a good solid operating system making some less
>>> interested in upgrading to Windows Vista.
>>> On the other hand, many believed Windows ME a poor operating system
>>> and so they quickly jumped to Windows XP.
>>> Some suggest sales are slower with windows Vista than when Windows XP
>>> was released over 5 years ago.
>>> But the above alone can account for significant differences.
>>>
>>> Windows Vista RTM has worked great for me on two of my computers since
>>> November and many others have the same experience.
>>> Most including many critics expect Windows Vista to get better as 3rd
>>> party support improves.
>>> Also some expect Service Pack 1 to make Vista better.
>>>
>>> There is no real comparison to Windows ME, but some want others to see
>>> what does not exist.
>>> That is one of the myths some seem to want to perpetuate.
>>>
>>> Try Windows Vista for yourself and make up your own mind.
>>
>>Can this test be performed without spending hundreds of dollars? If so,
>>how?
>
> That is precisely my problem with trying out Vista. I would actually
> try it out of I reasonably could to form a better opinion of it.
>
> But lets see...since from what I hear one can only buy the OEM version
> now if they buy a HD, CPU, Mobo, and Ram....that rules out the OEM
> version for me so now I have to go buy the retail verison even though
> I don't need the extra phone support it gives. Significantly raises my
> cost.
>
> Next, if I actually want to give Vista a *fair* trial, I need to
> install it on a fairly identical system that I use on a daily basis.
> Installing it on a 4 year old hardly used PC is not a fair comparison.
>
> Well...I currently have over 2k invested in my current system and it
> would cost me roughly the same amount of money to build another system
> like it that is comparable.
>
> So basically...
>
> Cost for Vista Ultimate: 400
> Cost for Test system: 2,000 - 2,500
>
> So what am I looking at? Almost 3,000 dollars just to see if I even
> WANT to use this? No thanks.
>
> Installing it on my existing machine is not an option. I need to work
> and make money.
>
> Considering all the other myriad of reasons why I inherently do not
> want this operating system...I sure as hell have no financial
> incentive to waste that much money on a test sytem for an OS I
> inherently don't care for. There are better ways to spend my money.
>
>
> --
> Stephan