Vista - For Sale: Vista Home

I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I need
that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My Home edition
is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or will the software
see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?

Thanks,
tangot2@mail.com

"Fred" <tangot2@mail.com> wrote in message
news:4CEFF0B1-E186-4CD3-B2BD-406DB0FD3892@microsoft.com...
>I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
>failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I
>need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My Home
>edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or will the
>software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>
> Thanks,
> tangot2@mail.com

You can sell the hard drive - but if you actually mean can you sell the hard
drive AND the Windows Vista software - then yes you can as long as you
provide everything that came with the product (including Original DVD and
Product Activation Key on its original sticker or card.).
The purchaser must also be aware that this has been used and activated and
that they will need to activate by telephone and explain to the rep that
this was on another PC but has now been moved to theirs.

--

Mike Brannigan

Goto control panel, Upgrade anytime and upgrade to Ultimate.


"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:64469517-45B9-4BAE-85D7-F3B68E81A3DD@microsoft.com...
> "Fred" <tangot2@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:4CEFF0B1-E186-4CD3-B2BD-406DB0FD3892@microsoft.com...
>>I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
>>failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I
>>need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My Home
>>edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or will the
>>software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> tangot2@mail.com
>
> You can sell the hard drive - but if you actually mean can you sell the
> hard drive AND the Windows Vista software - then yes you can as long as
> you provide everything that came with the product (including Original DVD
> and Product Activation Key on its original sticker or card.).
> The purchaser must also be aware that this has been used and activated and
> that they will need to activate by telephone and explain to the rep that
> this was on another PC but has now been moved to theirs.
>
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan

Fred wrote:
> I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
> failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I
> need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My
> Home edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or
> will the software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?

Yes, the software will see it is on another mainboard... and there is
no repair installation as it is with Windows XP.


Roy

I think you will find that if you sold the HDD with Vista installed that when
the HDD is installed into another computer you will get the "blue screen of
death" and have to do a complete clean install again.

I did this as a test for both XP Pro and Vista and the result is the same.
If your not happy with your copy of Vista you can sell it, but you MUST
inform the purchaser that it has been installed once on your machine.
Or as suggested earlier just download the upgrade to a higher version of
Vista.

"Roy Coorne" wrote:

> Fred wrote:
> > I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
> > failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I
> > need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My
> > Home edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or
> > will the software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>
> Yes, the software will see it is on another mainboard... and there is
> no repair installation as it is with Windows XP.
>
>
> Roy
>

"Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eTwgJXBjHHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Fred wrote:
>> I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
>> failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I
>> need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My Home
>> edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or will
>> the software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>
> Yes, the software will see it is on another mainboard... and there is no
> repair installation as it is with Windows XP.
>
>
> Roy


Roy, I notice you say 'motherboard'.

It's my understanding that Vista takes a fingerprint of some of your
hardware, and possibly the motherboard could be one of those items as I've
swapped out motherboards in the past and had to get another key.

Therefore, it's not only the motherboard, but other hardware in the PC. All
he really needs to do is let Microsoft know he purchased the software with
the key on a new hard disk. They will most likely give him a new key so he
can activate it. HOWEVER, due to the 'hardware' fingerprint, there may be
other items that were noted during the first activation.

This is how I would handle it to be entirely safe. I would repartition the
hard drive and reformat to my specifications. Then I would install the
software using the original product key. Most likely it will not bomb out
since it would only be the second activation. Then notify Microsoft that
I'm the new owner of the license and give them necessary info and reactivate
the software. No muss, no fuss, and it's all clean and legal.

When people sell their PC's they don't take into account the software
installed on that PC. They don't know that all licenses for the software on
the system needs to be transferred or software destroyed in accordance with
the publisher's requirements. So, when someone sells their old XP box, they
also need to transfer the license to XP and the new owner needs to let
Microsoft know about it. I know I've beaten Adobe over the head several
times concerning their products.

"Fred" <tangot2@mail.com> wrote in message
news:4CEFF0B1-E186-4CD3-B2BD-406DB0FD3892@microsoft.com...
>I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
>failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I
>need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My Home
>edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or will the
>software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>
> Thanks,
> tangot2@mail.com


Here's what you should do. If you want to sell the hard disk as well,
that's your prerogative but it may cause problems with the new owner since
it took a fingerprint of more than your hard disk.

Just remove Vista from the hard disk and sell the software to the new owner.
Have the new owner notify Microsoft that they are the new owner and
Microsoft will probably give them a new product key to use. Then your
activation is deactivated and theirs is activated. When they install on
their system, a fingerprint is taken of THEIR system instead of yours.

It may sound a bit much, but it's really not that hard and it's one way to
do it and keep your hard disk and sell the software legally.

"Bob" <Bob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9C8F0ABF-680F-4540-A6C1-E456ADB1AE0E@microsoft.com...
>I think you will find that if you sold the HDD with Vista installed that
>when
> the HDD is installed into another computer you will get the "blue screen
> of
> death" and have to do a complete clean install again.
>
> I did this as a test for both XP Pro and Vista and the result is the same.
> If your not happy with your copy of Vista you can sell it, but you MUST
> inform the purchaser that it has been installed once on your machine.
> Or as suggested earlier just download the upgrade to a higher version of
> Vista.
>
> "Roy Coorne" wrote:
>
>> Fred wrote:
>> > I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
>> > failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium. I
>> > need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My
>> > Home edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or
>> > will the software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>>
>> Yes, the software will see it is on another mainboard... and there is
>> no repair installation as it is with Windows XP.
>>
>>
>> Roy
>>


Damn Bob, I didn't think of that. The motherboard drivers were probably
also installed on the first system or MS generic drivers installed for the
hardware that the new machine may not have. I know whenever I reinstall an
OS, I also have to use the CD that came with my motherboard to install the
motherboard drivers and other drivers from their respective disk. Good
point.

Mike Brannigan wrote:
> "Fred" <tangot2@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:4CEFF0B1-E186-4CD3-B2BD-406DB0FD3892@microsoft.com...
>> I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
>> failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium.
>> I need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My
>> Home edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or
>> will the software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> tangot2@mail.com
>
> You can sell the hard drive - but if you actually mean can you sell the
> hard drive AND the Windows Vista software - then yes you can as long as
> you provide everything that came with the product (including Original
> DVD and Product Activation Key on its original sticker or card.).
> The purchaser must also be aware that this has been used and activated
> and that they will need to activate by telephone and explain to the rep
> that this was on another PC but has now been moved to theirs.
>

Actually, they don't need to give the phone rep most of this
information. When you call to activate, NO other information is
required except as documented below on the MS site:

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_facts.mspx

Mandatory Product Activation Data
The Installation ID is unique to each product and comprises two components:

Product ID. Unique to the product key used during installation

Hardware hash. Non-unique representation of the PC

The country in which the product is being installed (for Office XP and
Office XP family products only)

Protect your privacy. You do not need to give them more information
than that, even if they ask. Simply point them to this link where they
have it documented. If they persist anyway, ask to speak to a
supervisor. Anything more than the above information which they require
is none of their business.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post
in any of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.
That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

Big Dummy wrote:
> "Fred" <tangot2@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:4CEFF0B1-E186-4CD3-B2BD-406DB0FD3892@microsoft.com...
>> I bought Vista Home Premium and loaded it on a new hard drive. What I
>> failed to notice is Remote Desktop is not a feature of Home Premium.
>> I need that feature which comes on Business and Ultimate editions. My
>> Home edition is activated. Can I sell hard drive and all and be OK or
>> will the software see it is on a different motherboard and squawk?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> tangot2@mail.com
>
>
> Here's what you should do. If you want to sell the hard disk as well,
> that's your prerogative but it may cause problems with the new owner
> since it took a fingerprint of more than your hard disk.
>
> Just remove Vista from the hard disk and sell the software to the new
> owner. Have the new owner notify Microsoft that they are the new owner
> and Microsoft will probably give them a new product key to use. Then
> your activation is deactivated and theirs is activated. When they
> install on their system, a fingerprint is taken of THEIR system instead
> of yours.
>
> It may sound a bit much, but it's really not that hard and it's one way
> to do it and keep your hard disk and sell the software legally.
>

Again, they don't need to give the phone rep most of this information.
When you call to activate, NO other information is required except as
documented below on the MS site:

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_facts.mspx

Mandatory Product Activation Data
The Installation ID is unique to each product and comprises two components:

Product ID. Unique to the product key used during installation

Hardware hash. Non-unique representation of the PC

The country in which the product is being installed (for Office XP and
Office XP family products only)

Protect your privacy. You do not need to give them more information
than that, even if they ask. Simply point them to this link where they
have it documented. If they persist anyway, ask to speak to a
supervisor. Anything more than the above information which they require
is none of their business.


--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post
in any of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.
That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot