Vista - Newsgroup posts are not the same in Windows Mail and OE6

Just an interesting observation,

On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro notebook
using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using Windows Mail,
but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this one), they are not
exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows Mail but not in OE, but
if I search that particular post in OE, it is there just not showing up.

I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's the
same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.

Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in
news:ejSEFtKjHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Just an interesting observation,
>
> On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro
> notebook using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop
> using Windows Mail, but when I read posts in the same newsgroup
> (e.g. this one), they are not exactly the same. A few are showing
> up in Windows Mail but not in OE, but if I search that particular
> post in OE, it is there just not showing up.
>
> I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but
> it's the same, and both are using the same sorting method - by
> date.
>
> Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also
> noticed.
>
>
>
>

Are you sure you don't have any kill files or filters set on one and
not the other?

No, I won't kill file anyone even if he/she call my name

"Dave Cox" <dcox@onramp113.org> wrote in message
news:Xns992430DF83D4dcoxonramp113org@69.28.186.121...
> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in
> news:ejSEFtKjHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> Just an interesting observation,
>>
>> On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro
>> notebook using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop
>> using Windows Mail, but when I read posts in the same newsgroup
>> (e.g. this one), they are not exactly the same. A few are showing
>> up in Windows Mail but not in OE, but if I search that particular
>> post in OE, it is there just not showing up.
>>
>> I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but
>> it's the same, and both are using the same sorting method - by
>> date.
>>
>> Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also
>> noticed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Are you sure you don't have any kill files or filters set on one and
> not the other?

is there anything in particular with the ones that do not show that can be pointed out.
like from the same person. or subject, etc.....



mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message news:ejSEFtKjHHA.4904@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Just an interesting observation,

On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro notebook
using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using Windows Mail,
but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this one), they are not
exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows Mail but not in OE, but
if I search that particular post in OE, it is there just not showing up.

I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's the
same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.

Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.

xfile wrote:
> Just an interesting observation,
>
> On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro notebook
> using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using Windows Mail,
> but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this one), they are not
> exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows Mail but not in OE, but
> if I search that particular post in OE, it is there just not showing up.
>
> I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's the
> same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.
>
> Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.
>

A couple of ideas to check. Apologies for not being particularly
specific - I don't actually use Windows Mail or OE6 myself.

Some newsreaders have an option to download a maximum number of headers
at once (eg. mine will prompt me to download more than 500). It could be
that if there are more than that number of new messages, OE only
downloads the newest however many, and doesn't prompt to download the
rest. Maybe look for such an option in the newsgroup account settings in
OE? Something like "download at most (n) new messages"?

If all new messages come up in both, but it's just some old ones that
don't show in OE, it could be that those are messages from before you
first set up the newsgroup on OE.

"Mark Bourne" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OSts8UMjHHA.4248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> xfile wrote:
>> Just an interesting observation,
>>
>> On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro
>> notebook using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using
>> Windows Mail, but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this
>> one), they are not exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows
>> Mail but not in OE, but if I search that particular post in OE, it is
>> there just not showing up.
>>
>> I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's the
>> same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.
>>
>> Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.
>>
>
> A couple of ideas to check. Apologies for not being particularly
> specific - I don't actually use Windows Mail or OE6 myself.
>
> Some newsreaders have an option to download a maximum number of headers at
> once (eg. mine will prompt me to download more than 500). It could be that
> if there are more than that number of new messages, OE only downloads the
> newest however many, and doesn't prompt to download the rest. Maybe look
> for such an option in the newsgroup account settings in OE? Something like
> "download at most (n) new messages"?
>
> If all new messages come up in both, but it's just some old ones that
> don't show in OE, it could be that those are messages from before you
> first set up the newsgroup on OE.

I think Mark is on to the answer. Read this article I wrote at
http://www.mindspring.com/~anorton1/Post_Mystery.html
and see if it explains what you are seeing. There are instructions there as
well for a workaround to the problem.

Alan Norton
Reviews: ABIT AN8 SLI, ECS P965T-A & Foxconn 975X7AB-8EKRS2H Mb's
Choosing the Right Version Of Vista - Vista Confusion Article
Arizona Pics and Cute Animal Pics
http://www.mindspring.com/~anorton1/

Hi,

Examples at this moment:

I see "RE: "Run as Administrator"...make default??" (sarahl, 05/02/2007
5:54PM) in Windows Mail but not in OE6.

By the way, it seems to me that those posts showing only in Windows Mail are
replies to the original post.

I have another one titled: Re: Cannot email photos, also is a reply and it
shows in Windows Mail on the top of the list but not in OE6.

Strange but well...


"mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@comcast.net> wrote in message
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is there anything in particular with the ones that do not show that can be
pointed out.
like from the same person. or subject, etc.....



mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
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Just an interesting observation,

On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro
notebook
using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using Windows
Mail,
but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this one), they are not
exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows Mail but not in OE, but
if I search that particular post in OE, it is there just not showing up.

I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's the
same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.

Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.

Hi,

Thanks.

Both are set to get "300" headers at a time - which I think is default value
and more than I want to read

Actually, those are posts within 1-2 weeks, but as just posted, it seems
those only shown in Windows Mail are replies to the original post and could
it be under the original post in OE6, I have no idea.

Anyway, thanks for the kind suggestion and it's just an interesting
observation for which I won't bother to find out the cause.

Thanks



"Mark Bourne" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OSts8UMjHHA.4248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> xfile wrote:
>> Just an interesting observation,
>>
>> On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro
>> notebook using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using
>> Windows Mail, but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this
>> one), they are not exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows
>> Mail but not in OE, but if I search that particular post in OE, it is
>> there just not showing up.
>>
>> I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's the
>> same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.
>>
>> Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.
>>
>
> A couple of ideas to check. Apologies for not being particularly
> specific - I don't actually use Windows Mail or OE6 myself.
>
> Some newsreaders have an option to download a maximum number of headers at
> once (eg. mine will prompt me to download more than 500). It could be that
> if there are more than that number of new messages, OE only downloads the
> newest however many, and doesn't prompt to download the rest. Maybe look
> for such an option in the newsgroup account settings in OE? Something like
> "download at most (n) new messages"?
>
> If all new messages come up in both, but it's just some old ones that
> don't show in OE, it could be that those are messages from before you
> first set up the newsgroup on OE.

Hi,

Thanks and it's very informative article.

But I don't want to download all headers, and I can live with missing some
posts. I don't read every one, after all.

But thanks for the information and I could use it if I wan to in the future.


"Pecos" <anortCutOutThe2on21@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:OYdlvNNjHHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Mark Bourne" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OSts8UMjHHA.4248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> xfile wrote:
>>> Just an interesting observation,
>>>
>>> On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro
>>> notebook using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using
>>> Windows Mail, but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this
>>> one), they are not exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows
>>> Mail but not in OE, but if I search that particular post in OE, it is
>>> there just not showing up.
>>>
>>> I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's
>>> the same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.
>>>
>>> Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.
>>>
>>
>> A couple of ideas to check. Apologies for not being particularly
>> specific - I don't actually use Windows Mail or OE6 myself.
>>
>> Some newsreaders have an option to download a maximum number of headers
>> at once (eg. mine will prompt me to download more than 500). It could be
>> that if there are more than that number of new messages, OE only
>> downloads the newest however many, and doesn't prompt to download the
>> rest. Maybe look for such an option in the newsgroup account settings in
>> OE? Something like "download at most (n) new messages"?
>>
>> If all new messages come up in both, but it's just some old ones that
>> don't show in OE, it could be that those are messages from before you
>> first set up the newsgroup on OE.
>
> I think Mark is on to the answer. Read this article I wrote at
> http://www.mindspring.com/~anorton1/Post_Mystery.html
> and see if it explains what you are seeing. There are instructions there
> as well for a workaround to the problem.
>
> Alan Norton
> Reviews: ABIT AN8 SLI, ECS P965T-A & Foxconn 975X7AB-8EKRS2H Mb's
> Choosing the Right Version Of Vista - Vista Confusion Article
> Arizona Pics and Cute Animal Pics
> http://www.mindspring.com/~anorton1/
>

have not used OE in a while, but seem to remember an option that effected the way replies were displayed.
whether in line under the original or just organized by he way you have selected.
might check over the options in xp carefully.



mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message news:uoDGdBSjHHA.4132@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hi,

Thanks.

Both are set to get "300" headers at a time - which I think is default value
and more than I want to read

Actually, those are posts within 1-2 weeks, but as just posted, it seems
those only shown in Windows Mail are replies to the original post and could
it be under the original post in OE6, I have no idea.

Anyway, thanks for the kind suggestion and it's just an interesting
observation for which I won't bother to find out the cause.

Thanks



"Mark Bourne" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OSts8UMjHHA.4248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> xfile wrote:
>> Just an interesting observation,
>>
>> On my desk, I have two systems running at the same time, an XP Pro
>> notebook using OE6 and a LCD screen connected to a Vista desktop using
>> Windows Mail, but when I read posts in the same newsgroup (e.g. this
>> one), they are not exactly the same. A few are showing up in Windows
>> Mail but not in OE, but if I search that particular post in OE, it is
>> there just not showing up.
>>
>> I did refresh a few times to see if there are any difference but it's the
>> same, and both are using the same sorting method - by date.
>>
>> Anyway, just an observation and don't know if anyone else also noticed.
>>
>
> A couple of ideas to check. Apologies for not being particularly
> specific - I don't actually use Windows Mail or OE6 myself.
>
> Some newsreaders have an option to download a maximum number of headers at
> once (eg. mine will prompt me to download more than 500). It could be that
> if there are more than that number of new messages, OE only downloads the
> newest however many, and doesn't prompt to download the rest. Maybe look
> for such an option in the newsgroup account settings in OE? Something like
> "download at most (n) new messages"?
>
> If all new messages come up in both, but it's just some old ones that
> don't show in OE, it could be that those are messages from before you
> first set up the newsgroup on OE.