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Old 05-06-2007   #1 (permalink)
species8350


 
 

defrag comand vs defrag windows

Hi,

I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
the programme from windows.

The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.

Thanks


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Old 05-06-2007   #2 (permalink)
Acidburns


 
 

Re: defrag comand vs defrag windows

In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
if so, How?

"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> the programme from windows.
>
> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> Thanks
>


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Old 05-06-2007   #3 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Acidburns View Post
In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
if so, How?

>
Hi,

Vista's version doesn't have a map with it, but you can download Auslogics free version to be able to. Plus, it works better and quicker & is fully compatible with 32/64 bit Vista. Here's a link to check it out:

http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/

Shawn
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Old 05-06-2007   #4 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by species8350 View Post
Hi,

I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
the programme from windows.

The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.

Thanks
In the past yes. When you defrag a hard drive from within windows it can't defrag the PAGE file while it's in use. However, Vista does a good job of this on it's on with a "automatic boot optimization" every time you restart or reboot. This doesn't defrag the hard drive, so you'll need to defrag on a regular basis as needed. You can still do it by boot if you buy a full retail version of a defrag program with that option, but I never noticed any need for it. (At least not on my computer)

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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Old 05-06-2007   #5 (permalink)
Ashton Crusher


 
 

Re: defrag comand vs defrag windows

On Mon, 7 May 2007 08:22:02 +1000, "Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
>if so, How?
>


Why do you feel the need to view a map? When you save a file to disk
do you feel compelled to view a map of where it's being saved? I'm
not trying to be a wise ass, I just really curious about the
compulsion people have to view a map during defrag operations.


>"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
>> the programme from windows.
>>
>> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
>> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>>
>> Thanks
>>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-06-2007   #6 (permalink)
Acidburns


 
 

Re: defrag comand vs defrag windows

In my particular instance I wanted to view a map because I had a 140gb hdd
with 100gb free, except windows would only let me shrink the partition 7gig.

I wanted to see whether data towards the end was stopping me from shrinking
further. Viewing a map would tell me yes or no, defrag would fix and let me
shrink further. no data would make me look into it further.

I'm not compelled to look at a defrag map for any reason other than
necisity.

"Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message
news:vlts33p8srar0trol8i52fepqo4dnvc214@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 7 May 2007 08:22:02 +1000, "Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
>>if so, How?
>>

>
> Why do you feel the need to view a map? When you save a file to disk
> do you feel compelled to view a map of where it's being saved? I'm
> not trying to be a wise ass, I just really curious about the
> compulsion people have to view a map during defrag operations.
>
>
>>"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>>news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
>>> the programme from windows.
>>>
>>> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
>>> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>


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Old 05-06-2007   #7 (permalink)
Chad Harris


 
 

Re: defrag comand vs defrag windows

They elected not to show a map for Vista's defrag. I'd download and try
Perfect Disk free 30 days full functionality from Raxco that was
considerably bettere when I compared them both for a couple months.

www.raxco.com

Considerable information is available on this blog for MSFT's Vista defrag:
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...r/default.aspx

CH

"Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1644F1E1-41D1-472E-802F-DEE64DEF020A@microsoft.com...
> In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
> if so, How?
>
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
>> the programme from windows.
>>
>> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
>> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-06-2007   #8 (permalink)
Chad Harris


 
 

Re: defrag comand vs defrag windows

Hi species 8350--

Defrag from command line is not "better" but it has multiple switches so it
has some options:


A quick note about Defrag.exe parameters in Windows Vista
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...arameters.aspx

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Description: Locates and consolidates fragmented files on local volumes to
improve system performance.

Syntax: defrag <volume> -a [-v]
defrag <volume> [{-r | -w}] [-f] [-v]
defrag -c [{-r | -w}] [-f] [-v]

Parameters:

Value Description

<volume> Specifies the drive letter or mount point path of the volume
to
be defragmented or analyzed.

-c Defragments all volumes on this computer.

-a Performs fragmentation analysis only.

-r Performs partial defragmentation (default). Attempts to
consolidate only fragments smaller than 64 megabytes (MB).

-w Performs full defragmentation. Attempts to consolidate all
file
fragments, regardless of their size.

-f Forces defragmentation of the volume when free space is low.

-v Specifies verbose mode. The defragmentation and analysis
output
is more detailed.

-? Displays this help information.

Examples:

defrag d:
defrag d:\vol\mountpoint -w -f
defrag d: -a -v
defrag -c -v

CH


"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> the programme from windows.
>
> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> Thanks
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-06-2007   #9 (permalink)
DP


 
 

Re: defrag comand vs defrag windows



If you have more than one drive, it lets you specify the drive. In the GUI
version, I think it defrags all your drives.


"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> the programme from windows.
>
> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
>
> Thanks
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-07-2007   #10 (permalink)
Mick


 
 

Re: defrag comand vs defrag windows

what we all want is the % bar that was in XP.
It does help to know how long the thing is going to take to defrag; not be
at the whim on microsoft

"Ashton Crusher" wrote:

> On Mon, 7 May 2007 08:22:02 +1000, "Acidburns" <acidburns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In addition to spcies' question; Can you view a fragentation map in vista?
> >if so, How?
> >

>
> Why do you feel the need to view a map? When you save a file to disk
> do you feel compelled to view a map of where it's being saved? I'm
> not trying to be a wise ass, I just really curious about the
> compulsion people have to view a map during defrag operations.
>
>
> >"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> >news:1178489633.796827.97560@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have read that using degrag from a command line is better that using
> >> the programme from windows.
> >>
> >> The programme presumably is the same, so can someone tell me the
> >> advantages of loading the programme through the command prompt.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>

>

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