This is interesting:

<quote>
In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version of Windows Live Mail
(Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been using a beta version of
this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and I'll be reviewing the
product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's going on with this
interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a very complicated story
with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express in XP, Windows Mail in
Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two products and will be the
only one of the three actively developed going forward.

"This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution and superset of all the
clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story. Windows Live Mail is the
marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only client we're going to
invest in going forward."
</quote>
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp

Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!

Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!

So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it from
Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just awful.
I use Outlook for email.

Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express they'll
have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft surprised
me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other day about
ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their own
email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)



Here's the press release:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx

-Michael

MICHAEL--

Be careful that it doesn't set and screwup Windows Mail in Vista, because it
sure did it for me.

It took over all associations for Win Mail, putting it up in the crappy and
totally sub functional Live Mail format. I had to spend a lot of time
getting back the associations after I got rid of Live Mail which I can
personally sum up as "couldn't suck more." It's terrible and I wouldn't
touch it with a 40 mile pole. I'd like to express myself more fully, but
I'm rather shy and subdued.

Any OE or Win Mail folder--Search on Vista can pull most of them up on a
topic on a dual boot from the Vista desktop opened in the crappy Win Desktop
Live mail or whatever name it has evolved to format. I wasn't the only one
to notice and hate this. MSFT has a tac which is pure marketing of changing
the names of software every few months. How it helps them or their
customers is a good question.

The fix is to go to:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Microsoft Internet News Message D_Word Value

C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"

change them it to to

c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

That change is hardly intuitive and 99% of people would not figure it out.

CH



"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:O7PH%233PkHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> This is interesting:
>
> <quote>
> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version of
> Windows Live Mail
> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been
> using a beta version of
> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and I'll
> be reviewing the
> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's going
> on with this
> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a
> very complicated story
> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express in
> XP, Windows Mail in
> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two
> products and will be the
> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>
> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution and
> superset of all the
> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story.
> Windows Live Mail is the
> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only
> client we're going to
> invest in going forward."
> </quote>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>
> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>
> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!
>
> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it from
> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just
> awful.
> I use Outlook for email.
>
> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express
> they'll
> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft
> surprised
> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other
> day about
> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their own
> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>
> Here's the press release:
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>
> -Michael

Neither Windows Live Mail beta nor Windows Live Mail Desktop beta screwed up
anything here.


"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
news:OyvNenQkHHA.492@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> MICHAEL--
>
> Be careful that it doesn't set and screwup Windows Mail in Vista, because it
> sure did it for me.
>
> It took over all associations for Win Mail, putting it up in the crappy and
> totally sub functional Live Mail format. I had to spend a lot of time getting
> back the associations after I got rid of Live Mail which I can personally sum
> up as "couldn't suck more." It's terrible and I wouldn't touch it with a 40
> mile pole. I'd like to express myself more fully, but I'm rather shy and
> subdued.
>
> Any OE or Win Mail folder--Search on Vista can pull most of them up on a topic
> on a dual boot from the Vista desktop opened in the crappy Win Desktop Live
> mail or whatever name it has evolved to format. I wasn't the only one to
> notice and hate this. MSFT has a tac which is pure marketing of changing the
> names of software every few months. How it helps them or their customers is a
> good question.
>
> The fix is to go to:
>
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Microsoft Internet News Message D_Word Value
>
> C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
>
> change them it to to
>
> c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe
>
> That change is hardly intuitive and 99% of people would not figure it out.
>
> CH
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:O7PH%233PkHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> This is interesting:
>>
>> <quote>
>> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version of
>> Windows Live Mail
>> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been using
>> a beta version of
>> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and I'll be
>> reviewing the
>> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's going on
>> with this
>> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a very
>> complicated story
>> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express in XP,
>> Windows Mail in
>> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two
>> products and will be the
>> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>>
>> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution and
>> superset of all the
>> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story.
>> Windows Live Mail is the
>> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only client
>> we're going to
>> invest in going forward."
>> </quote>
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>>
>> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
>> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>>
>> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
>> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!
>>
>> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
>> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
>> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
>> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it from
>> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just awful.
>> I use Outlook for email.
>>
>> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express they'll
>> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft surprised
>> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other day
>> about
>> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their own
>> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>>
>> Here's the press release:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>>
>> -Michael
>

Nor here. WLMD appears to be a clone of WinMail.



"Cal Bear '66" <xxx@xxx.org> wrote in message
news:27AD522C-D59C-442C-8811-2E25B9041C1C@microsoft.com...
> Neither Windows Live Mail beta nor Windows Live Mail Desktop beta screwed
> up anything here.
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
> news:OyvNenQkHHA.492@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> MICHAEL--
>>
>> Be careful that it doesn't set and screwup Windows Mail in Vista, because
>> it sure did it for me.
>>
>> It took over all associations for Win Mail, putting it up in the crappy
>> and totally sub functional Live Mail format. I had to spend a lot of
>> time getting back the associations after I got rid of Live Mail which I
>> can personally sum up as "couldn't suck more." It's terrible and I
>> wouldn't touch it with a 40 mile pole. I'd like to express myself more
>> fully, but I'm rather shy and subdued.
>>
>> Any OE or Win Mail folder--Search on Vista can pull most of them up on a
>> topic on a dual boot from the Vista desktop opened in the crappy Win
>> Desktop Live mail or whatever name it has evolved to format. I wasn't
>> the only one to notice and hate this. MSFT has a tac which is pure
>> marketing of changing the names of software every few months. How it
>> helps them or their customers is a good question.
>>
>> The fix is to go to:
>>
>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Microsoft Internet News Message D_Word Value
>>
>> C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
>>
>> change them it to to
>>
>> c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe
>>
>> That change is hardly intuitive and 99% of people would not figure it
>> out.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:O7PH%233PkHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> This is interesting:
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version
>>> of Windows Live Mail
>>> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been
>>> using a beta version of
>>> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and I'll
>>> be reviewing the
>>> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's
>>> going on with this
>>> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a
>>> very complicated story
>>> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express
>>> in XP, Windows Mail in
>>> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two
>>> products and will be the
>>> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>>>
>>> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution and
>>> superset of all the
>>> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story.
>>> Windows Live Mail is the
>>> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only
>>> client we're going to
>>> invest in going forward."
>>> </quote>
>>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>>>
>>> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
>>> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>>>
>>> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
>>> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again.
>>> Bravo!
>>>
>>> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
>>> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
>>> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
>>> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it
>>> from
>>> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just
>>> awful.
>>> I use Outlook for email.
>>>
>>> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express
>>> they'll
>>> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft
>>> surprised
>>> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other
>>> day about
>>> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their
>>> own
>>> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>>>
>>> Here's the press release:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>
>
>

MS dumped Windows Mail and opted to move forward with WLMd. Then MS scooped
up WLMd and dumped it into a new project they called Outlook Express Live.
It would seem they are going to move forward with Windows Live Mail.

It's pretty much a huge mess.



"Dave" <dave@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:OtAV7wQkHHA.4248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Nor here. WLMD appears to be a clone of WinMail.
>
>
>
> "Cal Bear '66" <xxx@xxx.org> wrote in message
> news:27AD522C-D59C-442C-8811-2E25B9041C1C@microsoft.com...
>> Neither Windows Live Mail beta nor Windows Live Mail Desktop beta screwed
>> up anything here.
>>
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
>> news:OyvNenQkHHA.492@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> MICHAEL--
>>>
>>> Be careful that it doesn't set and screwup Windows Mail in Vista,
>>> because it sure did it for me.
>>>
>>> It took over all associations for Win Mail, putting it up in the crappy
>>> and totally sub functional Live Mail format. I had to spend a lot of
>>> time getting back the associations after I got rid of Live Mail which I
>>> can personally sum up as "couldn't suck more." It's terrible and I
>>> wouldn't touch it with a 40 mile pole. I'd like to express myself more
>>> fully, but I'm rather shy and subdued.
>>>
>>> Any OE or Win Mail folder--Search on Vista can pull most of them up on a
>>> topic on a dual boot from the Vista desktop opened in the crappy Win
>>> Desktop Live mail or whatever name it has evolved to format. I wasn't
>>> the only one to notice and hate this. MSFT has a tac which is pure
>>> marketing of changing the names of software every few months. How it
>>> helps them or their customers is a good question.
>>>
>>> The fix is to go to:
>>>
>>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Microsoft Internet News Message D_Word Value
>>>
>>> C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
>>>
>>> change them it to to
>>>
>>> c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe
>>>
>>> That change is hardly intuitive and 99% of people would not figure it
>>> out.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O7PH%233PkHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> This is interesting:
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version
>>>> of Windows Live Mail
>>>> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been
>>>> using a beta version of
>>>> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and
>>>> I'll be reviewing the
>>>> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's
>>>> going on with this
>>>> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a
>>>> very complicated story
>>>> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express
>>>> in XP, Windows Mail in
>>>> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two
>>>> products and will be the
>>>> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>>>>
>>>> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution
>>>> and superset of all the
>>>> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story.
>>>> Windows Live Mail is the
>>>> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only
>>>> client we're going to
>>>> invest in going forward."
>>>> </quote>
>>>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>>>>
>>>> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
>>>> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>>>>
>>>> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
>>>> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again.
>>>> Bravo!
>>>>
>>>> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
>>>> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
>>>> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
>>>> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it
>>>> from
>>>> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just
>>>> awful.
>>>> I use Outlook for email.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express
>>>> they'll
>>>> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft
>>>> surprised
>>>> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other
>>>> day about
>>>> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their
>>>> own
>>>> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Here's the press release:
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>
>>
>>
>

> Then MS scooped up WLMd and dumped it into a new project they called
> Outlook >Express Live.

Really?

> It's pretty much a huge mess.

I concur that. Some how my life is getting more and more complicated when
MS is in it. It wasn't like this before.

Maybe a divorce is needed now?



"Justin" <None@None.com> wrote in message
news:e5IZO1SkHHA.4936@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> MS dumped Windows Mail and opted to move forward with WLMd. Then MS
> scooped up WLMd and dumped it into a new project they called Outlook
> Express Live. It would seem they are going to move forward with Windows
> Live Mail.
>
> It's pretty much a huge mess.
>
>
>
> "Dave" <dave@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
> news:OtAV7wQkHHA.4248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Nor here. WLMD appears to be a clone of WinMail.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Cal Bear '66" <xxx@xxx.org> wrote in message
>> news:27AD522C-D59C-442C-8811-2E25B9041C1C@microsoft.com...
>>> Neither Windows Live Mail beta nor Windows Live Mail Desktop beta
>>> screwed up anything here.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OyvNenQkHHA.492@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> MICHAEL--
>>>>
>>>> Be careful that it doesn't set and screwup Windows Mail in Vista,
>>>> because it sure did it for me.
>>>>
>>>> It took over all associations for Win Mail, putting it up in the crappy
>>>> and totally sub functional Live Mail format. I had to spend a lot of
>>>> time getting back the associations after I got rid of Live Mail which I
>>>> can personally sum up as "couldn't suck more." It's terrible and I
>>>> wouldn't touch it with a 40 mile pole. I'd like to express myself more
>>>> fully, but I'm rather shy and subdued.
>>>>
>>>> Any OE or Win Mail folder--Search on Vista can pull most of them up on
>>>> a topic on a dual boot from the Vista desktop opened in the crappy Win
>>>> Desktop Live mail or whatever name it has evolved to format. I wasn't
>>>> the only one to notice and hate this. MSFT has a tac which is pure
>>>> marketing of changing the names of software every few months. How it
>>>> helps them or their customers is a good question.
>>>>
>>>> The fix is to go to:
>>>>
>>>> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Microsoft Internet News Message D_Word Value
>>>>
>>>> C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE "%1"
>>>>
>>>> change them it to to
>>>>
>>>> c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe
>>>>
>>>> That change is hardly intuitive and 99% of people would not figure it
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:O7PH%233PkHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> This is interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta
>>>>> version of Windows Live Mail
>>>>> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've
>>>>> been using a beta version of
>>>>> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and
>>>>> I'll be reviewing the
>>>>> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's
>>>>> going on with this
>>>>> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted
>>>>> a very complicated story
>>>>> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express
>>>>> in XP, Windows Mail in
>>>>> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two
>>>>> products and will be the
>>>>> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution
>>>>> and superset of all the
>>>>> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story.
>>>>> Windows Live Mail is the
>>>>> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only
>>>>> client we're going to
>>>>> invest in going forward."
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
>>>>> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector
>>>>> that
>>>>> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again.
>>>>> Bravo!
>>>>>
>>>>> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
>>>>> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
>>>>> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
>>>>> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it
>>>>> from
>>>>> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just
>>>>> awful.
>>>>> I use Outlook for email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express
>>>>> they'll
>>>>> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft
>>>>> surprised
>>>>> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the
>>>>> other day about
>>>>> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their
>>>>> own
>>>>> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the press release:
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Tested for two weeks, buggy and slow.

Done with that, and will not look back.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:O7PH%233PkHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> This is interesting:
>
> <quote>
> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version of
> Windows Live Mail
> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been
> using a beta version of
> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and I'll
> be reviewing the
> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's going
> on with this
> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a
> very complicated story
> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express in
> XP, Windows Mail in
> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two
> products and will be the
> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>
> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution and
> superset of all the
> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story.
> Windows Live Mail is the
> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only
> client we're going to
> invest in going forward."
> </quote>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>
> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>
> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!
>
> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it from
> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just
> awful.
> I use Outlook for email.
>
> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express
> they'll
> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft
> surprised
> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other
> day about
> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their own
> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>
> Here's the press release:
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>
> -Michael

MICHAEL wrote:
> This is interesting:
>
> <quote>
> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version of Windows Live Mail
> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been using a beta version of
> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and I'll be reviewing the
> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's going on with this
> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a very complicated story
> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express in XP, Windows Mail in
> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two products and will be the
> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>
> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution and superset of all the
> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story. Windows Live Mail is the
> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only client we're going to
> invest in going forward."
> </quote>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>
> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>
> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!
>
> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it from
> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just awful.
> I use Outlook for email.
>
> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express they'll
> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft surprised
> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other day about
> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their own
> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>
> Here's the press release:
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>
> -Michael

Thank goodness! I hope it's much better than any of the mail clients
they've put out before, and I hope it actually is made to follow the
standards for a change!

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That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

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> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!


One thing though - I have been using Outlook 2003 for HTTP mail accounts
(free and paid)for very long in addition to other accounts.

So they are adding back functions they already have?

One thing they need for Outlook is newsreader.

If that's the case, I can use Outlook for all messaging. Right now, I only
use OE (Windows Mail) for newsgroups and stay with OL for all others.


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:O7PH%233PkHHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> This is interesting:
>
> <quote>
> In the coming weeks, Microsoft will also ship a new public beta version of
> Windows Live Mail
> (Figure), which will work natively with Windows Live Hotmail. I've been
> using a beta version of
> this Outlook Express/Windows Mail derivative for some time now, and I'll
> be reviewing the
> product separately once the public beta is available. Here's what's going
> on with this
> interesting and free new email client. To date, Microsoft has painted a
> very complicated story
> with its free consumer-oriented email clients. There's Outlook Express in
> XP, Windows Mail in
> Vista, and now the new Windows Live Mail, which replaces the other two
> products and will be the
> only one of the three actively developed going forward.
>
> "This is the new client," Richardson told me, "and it's an evolution and
> superset of all the
> clients that came before. We're cleaning up the consumer client story.
> Windows Live Mail is the
> marriage of Windows Live services and the desktop, and it's the only
> client we're going to
> invest in going forward."
> </quote>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winlive_hotmail.asp
>
> Bye, bye Windows Mail. Hello, Windows Live Mail,
> and there will be no ads like in WLMD. Bravo!
>
> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!
>
> So, Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail are where all the
> developers have been. It's good to know they were doing something
> constructive, cause it certainly wasn't spent on Windows Mail. I hope
> Windows Live Mail is an excellent product, I might switch back to it from
> Thunderbird. Even though I only used WM for newsgroups, it was just
> awful.
> I use Outlook for email.
>
> Maybe for all those folks who liked "identities" in Outlook Express
> they'll
> have that in the new Windows Live Mail. You never know. Microsoft
> surprised
> me with this. I just gave them a hard time (again) in a post the other
> day about
> ads in WLMD and not being able to get your Hotmail for free with their own
> email clients.... they must have been reading my posts. ;-)
>
> Here's the press release:
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...lLaunchPR.mspx
>
> -Michael

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eoeSg4bkHHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Not only that, they will soon be releasing a new Outlook Connector that
>> will allow Outlook users to get their Hotmail for free once again. Bravo!
>
>
> One thing though - I have been using Outlook 2003 for HTTP mail accounts
> (free and paid)for very long in addition to other accounts.
>
> So they are adding back functions they already have?

That is correct. "Huge mess" is a slight understatement eh?