Vista - Windows Update just MURDERED Internet Explorer

invader@nospamforme.com wrote:
>> And what preparation did you do before downloading and installing the
>> updates?
>
> What preparation did *I* do?
>
> I didn't do anything. I didn't even know there were updates. My Vista
> operating system decided last night when I went to shutdown that it, *Vista*,
> would make the decision to install updates. It neither asked my permission
> nor informed me of what updates it was going to install.
>
> This makes no sense in an OS that bothers me constantly with authorizing the
> most trivial of details and yet decides to perform major surgery on itself
> without asking.
>
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No wonder it didn't work. Maybe you should have disabled Auto Update and
done some preparation before allowing the updates. Standard procedure is
to do a clean up and defrag. Then set a System Restore point. Then
disable your AV's auto check and THEN go get the updates.

Alias

Jan Wagner wrote:

> invader@nospamforme.com wrote:
>
>> Okay, Last night Windows Update ran when I shutdown. It dinked around
>> again with something this morning when I booted.
>> Now, whenever I launch IE, the frame appears then immediately
>> disappears and pops up a file dialog asking if I want to save
>> "navcancl" from "ieframe.dll" because IE is incapable of opening this
>> file.
>> Any idea how to fix this?
>
>
> Disable the IE7 phishing filter under Control Panel, Internet options,
> Advanced, Security.
>
> KB931768 fixes something in the previously fixed phishing filter, but
> ironically breaks IE7 unless you disable the phishing filter.
>
> Uninstalling the KB931768 and flagging as 'do not prompt to install
> again' is another "solution", though I think that one is even worse than
> just disabling the filter. While waiting for better solutions...
>
> - Jan

I didn't have any problem with the update and phishing is one of the
first things we always disable on new installs.
Frank

<invader@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
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>> Try uninstalling the KB931768 update.
>
> This worked.
>
> Good grief, doesn't Microsoft test these things first?

No fix can ever be fully tested especially in these days
of countless hardware and software configurations.
There has to be a compromise.

Considering there were probably millions of different
setups updated the other night I'm grateful that the
successes haven't been reported.

You can setup Vista to ask before updating and you may disable the uac

--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software
dguillett1@austin.rr.com
<invader@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, Last night Windows Update ran when I shutdown. It dinked around
> again
> with something this morning when I booted.
>
> Now, whenever I launch IE, the frame appears then immediately disappears
> and
> pops up a file dialog asking if I want to save "navcancl" from
> "ieframe.dll"
> because IE is incapable of opening this file.
>
> Any idea how to fix this?
>
> Also, a collective "What the hell?" -- this stupid OS bothers me with
> security popups for the most trivial of details and yet automatically
> upgrades it's components to the point of no longer being functional, and
> that
> doesn't deserve asking my permission!
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Posted using Android Newsgroup Downloader:
> .... http://www.sb-software.com/android
> -----------------------------------------------------------

Frank wrote:

> Jan Wagner wrote:
>
>> invader@nospamforme.com wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, Last night Windows Update ran when I shutdown. It dinked around
>>> again with something this morning when I booted.
>>> Now, whenever I launch IE, the frame appears then immediately
>>> disappears and pops up a file dialog asking if I want to save
>>> "navcancl" from "ieframe.dll" because IE is incapable of opening this
>>> file.
>>> Any idea how to fix this?
>>
>>
>> Disable the IE7 phishing filter under Control Panel, Internet options,
>> Advanced, Security.
>>
>> KB931768 fixes something in the previously fixed phishing filter, but
>> ironically breaks IE7 unless you disable the phishing filter.
>>
>> Uninstalling the KB931768 and flagging as 'do not prompt to install
>> again' is another "solution", though I think that one is even worse than
>> just disabling the filter. While waiting for better solutions...
>>
>> - Jan
>
> I didn't have any problem with the update and phishing is one of the
> first things we always disable on new installs.
> Frank

Well of course you don't have a prob. Didn't the guy you just replied to
talk about a "fix" being to disable phishing filter???? Do you really have
such bad reading comprehension or do you just insist on posting a "works
for me" everytime a problem is presented around here? I think people around
here would get better advice from Dr. Phil than Dr. Frank. <snort>

Love and Kisses,
Doris

--
My Microsoft Hero (he loves this company!) ... http://tinyurl.com/yp9cn2
Title Says It All ... http://tinyurl.com/2ssodl

Alias wrote:

> invader@nospamforme.com wrote:
>>> And what preparation did you do before downloading and installing the
>>> updates?
>>
>> What preparation did *I* do?
>>
>> I didn't do anything. I didn't even know there were updates. My Vista
>> operating system decided last night when I went to shutdown that it,
>> *Vista*, would make the decision to install updates. It neither asked my
>> permission nor informed me of what updates it was going to install.
>>
>> This makes no sense in an OS that bothers me constantly with authorizing
>> the most trivial of details and yet decides to perform major surgery on
>> itself without asking.
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Posted using Android Newsgroup Downloader:
>> .... http://www.sb-software.com/android
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> No wonder it didn't work. Maybe you should have disabled Auto Update and
> done some preparation before allowing the updates. Standard procedure is
> to do a clean up and defrag. Then set a System Restore point. Then
> disable your AV's auto check and THEN go get the updates.
>
> Alias

You're joking right? Is that how much Windoze users are supposed to trust
MickeyMouse updates? Geez. And people really try to use this toy operating
system to get any work done?

Love and Kisses,
Doris

--
My Microsoft Hero (he loves this company!) ... http://tinyurl.com/yp9cn2
Title Says It All ... http://tinyurl.com/2ssodl

Doris Day - MFB wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>
>>Jan Wagner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>invader@nospamforme.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Okay, Last night Windows Update ran when I shutdown. It dinked around
>>>>again with something this morning when I booted.
>>>>Now, whenever I launch IE, the frame appears then immediately
>>>>disappears and pops up a file dialog asking if I want to save
>>>>"navcancl" from "ieframe.dll" because IE is incapable of opening this
>>>>file.
>>>>Any idea how to fix this?
>>>
>>>
>>>Disable the IE7 phishing filter under Control Panel, Internet options,
>>>Advanced, Security.
>>>
>>>KB931768 fixes something in the previously fixed phishing filter, but
>>>ironically breaks IE7 unless you disable the phishing filter.
>>>
>>>Uninstalling the KB931768 and flagging as 'do not prompt to install
>>>again' is another "solution", though I think that one is even worse than
>>>just disabling the filter. While waiting for better solutions...
>>>
>>> - Jan
>>
>>I didn't have any problem with the update and phishing is one of the
>>first things we always disable on new installs.
>>Frank
>
>
> Well of course you don't have a prob. Didn't the guy you just replied to
> talk about a "fix" being to disable phishing filter???? Do you really have
> such bad reading comprehension or do you just insist on posting a "works
> for me" everytime a problem is presented around here? I think people around
> here would get better advice from Dr. Phil than Dr. Frank. <snort>
>
> Love and Kisses,
> Doris
>


I don't think it's possible, (could be wrong!) for you to shove your
bald head up your arse any further than it already is.
Yet your keep trying!
(snort, burp, belch, smirk)
Frank

JimR

It's good advice to uninsall the update, and I bet most of us have done just
that. But clearly this is just a stop-gap measure. MS has indeed determined
that a number of fixes are needed with IE. A MS MVP needs to step up to the
plate and make sure the big guys in software developement comes through for
their end-users.

Respecfully,
Mary Kaspar
--
Nothing else to say!


"JimR" wrote:

> <invader@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
> news:f1vcp501fr6@news3.newsguy.com...
> > Okay, Last night Windows Update ran when I shutdown. It dinked around
> > again
> > with something this morning when I booted.
> >
> > Now, whenever I launch IE, the frame appears then immediately disappears
> > and
> > pops up a file dialog asking if I want to save "navcancl" from
> > "ieframe.dll"
> > because IE is incapable of opening this file.
> >
> > Any idea how to fix this?
> >
> > Also, a collective "What the hell?" -- this stupid OS bothers me with
> > security popups for the most trivial of details and yet automatically
> > upgrades it's components to the point of no longer being functional, and
> > that
> > doesn't deserve asking my permission!
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Posted using Android Newsgroup Downloader:
> > .... http://www.sb-software.com/android
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Try uninstalling the KB931768 update.
>
> --
> Jim
>

You're raising your blood pressure while feeding the troll.

--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software
dguillett1@austin.rr.com
"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
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> Doris Day - MFB wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jan Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>invader@nospamforme.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Okay, Last night Windows Update ran when I shutdown. It dinked around
>>>>>again with something this morning when I booted.
>>>>>Now, whenever I launch IE, the frame appears then immediately
>>>>>disappears and pops up a file dialog asking if I want to save
>>>>>"navcancl" from "ieframe.dll" because IE is incapable of opening this
>>>>>file.
>>>>>Any idea how to fix this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Disable the IE7 phishing filter under Control Panel, Internet options,
>>>>Advanced, Security.
>>>>
>>>>KB931768 fixes something in the previously fixed phishing filter, but
>>>>ironically breaks IE7 unless you disable the phishing filter.
>>>>
>>>>Uninstalling the KB931768 and flagging as 'do not prompt to install
>>>>again' is another "solution", though I think that one is even worse than
>>>>just disabling the filter. While waiting for better solutions...
>>>>
>>>> - Jan
>>>
>>>I didn't have any problem with the update and phishing is one of the
>>>first things we always disable on new installs.
>>>Frank
>>
>>
>> Well of course you don't have a prob. Didn't the guy you just replied to
>> talk about a "fix" being to disable phishing filter???? Do you really
>> have
>> such bad reading comprehension or do you just insist on posting a "works
>> for me" everytime a problem is presented around here? I think people
>> around
>> here would get better advice from Dr. Phil than Dr. Frank. <snort>
>>
>> Love and Kisses,
>> Doris
>>
>
>
> I don't think it's possible, (could be wrong!) for you to shove your bald
> head up your arse any further than it already is.
> Yet your keep trying!
> (snort, burp, belch, smirk)
> Frank

just uninstall the update, thats what I did to fix it.
<invader@nospamforme.com> wrote in message
news:f1vgnl1ai1@news1.newsguy.com...
>> And what preparation did you do before downloading and installing the
>> updates?
>
> What preparation did *I* do?
>
> I didn't do anything. I didn't even know there were updates. My Vista
> operating system decided last night when I went to shutdown that it,
> *Vista*,
> would make the decision to install updates. It neither asked my permission
> nor informed me of what updates it was going to install.
>
> This makes no sense in an OS that bothers me constantly with authorizing
> the
> most trivial of details and yet decides to perform major surgery on itself
> without asking.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Posted using Android Newsgroup Downloader:
> .... http://www.sb-software.com/android
> -----------------------------------------------------------