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Old 06-18-2006   #1 (permalink)
Bill
Guest


 
 

Bypass boot screen?

When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little
orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually a
picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.

Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended?
Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over
me )


Happy Fathers Day


Bill



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Old 06-18-2006   #2 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

It is an important change to Vista (for security reasons) that the user runs
with limited rights and elevates those rights for any operation that will
make a change to the computer.

"Bill" <smile@here.com> wrote in message
news9FEADEB-5E71-40E4-9319-C1668C4514FF@microsoft.com...
> When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little
> orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually
> a
> picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
>
> Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended?
> Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
> privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
> something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
> privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch
> over
> me )
>
>
> Happy Fathers Day
>
>
> Bill
>
>



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Old 06-18-2006   #3 (permalink)
Conor
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

In article <D9FEADEB-5E71-40E4-9319-C1668C4514FF@microsoft.com>, Bill
says...

> Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
> privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
> something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
> privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over
> me )
>

People wanted security and now it is implemented properly the same way
as Linux.


--
Conor
Grumpy Old Man
Same ****, Different Day.
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Old 06-18-2006   #4 (permalink)
Jim Fraas
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

but my documents folder becomes read only!
Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard they
become read only again

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:evL0dGukGHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> It is an important change to Vista (for security reasons) that the user
> runs with limited rights and elevates those rights for any operation that
> will make a change to the computer.
>
> "Bill" <smile@here.com> wrote in message
> news9FEADEB-5E71-40E4-9319-C1668C4514FF@microsoft.com...
>> When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a
>> little
>> orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually
>> a
>> picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
>>
>> Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended?
>> Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
>> privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
>> something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
>> privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch
>> over
>> me )
>>
>>
>> Happy Fathers Day
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>

>
>



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-18-2006   #5 (permalink)
Bill
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

Upon further review - I can live with this. Security is better than
speed/easy way out. Thanks for the replies gentlemen.

Bill


"Conor" <conor.turton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1eff72b87a22c1f898cd63@news.individual.net...
In article <D9FEADEB-5E71-40E4-9319-C1668C4514FF@microsoft.com>, Bill
says...

> Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
> privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
> something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
> privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch
> over
> me )
>

People wanted security and now it is implemented properly the same way
as Linux.


--
Conor
Grumpy Old Man
Same ****, Different Day.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-18-2006   #6 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

You have to use elevated rights. This is the only way to guarantee that all
changes to your system are made with your knowledge. Otherwise malware can
hijack your system by running under Admin rights.

"Jim Fraas" <tman61@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23i5L5QukGHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> but my documents folder becomes read only!
> Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard
> they become read only again
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:evL0dGukGHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> It is an important change to Vista (for security reasons) that the user
>> runs with limited rights and elevates those rights for any operation that
>> will make a change to the computer.
>>
>> "Bill" <smile@here.com> wrote in message
>> news9FEADEB-5E71-40E4-9319-C1668C4514FF@microsoft.com...
>>> When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a
>>> little
>>> orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square
>>> (actually a
>>> picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended?
>>> Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
>>> privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
>>> something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
>>> privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch
>>> over
>>> me )
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy Fathers Day
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-18-2006   #7 (permalink)
Robert Robinson
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

I disagree that Vista's security procedures are "implemented properly
the same way as Linux" (UNIX). In UNIX, a user can become a super user
or root by requesting this change and entering the appropriate password.
It is also possible to login as root, if one has has the proper password.
The situation is quite different with Vista. A user can have
administrator privileges, but the setting doesn't function the same as
"Administrator" as is true with UNIX's root. Vista continues to ask if
you want to act as Administrator when supposedly you already have these
privileges. Also, this level of user cannot change directory privileges
that stay changed except by going through a very awkward procedure that
results in a significant security risk. It is also apparently no longer
possible to log onto Vista as Administrator in a manner that would be
similar to logging on to UNIX as root.
It is extremely frustrating to discover that a long download fails at
the very end because a user with Administrator privileges cannot write
to the required directory or that "save" fails in Visual Studio after
modifying and recompiling a program.
Administrative privileges should be just that not Vista's implementation
of a "Quasi Administrator". The only current way to circumvent this
horrible mess is to painstakingly set all directories to read/write for
all users. This is a security risk, but Vista does not provide one with
a viable alternate given its current poor file security design.
Robbie
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Old 06-18-2006   #8 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

You're welcome.

"Bill" <bill@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:ueOVyTukGHA.2280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Upon further review - I can live with this. Security is better than
> speed/easy way out. Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
>
> Bill
>
>
> "Conor" <conor.turton@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1eff72b87a22c1f898cd63@news.individual.net...
> In article <D9FEADEB-5E71-40E4-9319-C1668C4514FF@microsoft.com>, Bill
> says...
>
>> Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
>> privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
>> something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
>> privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch
>> over
>> me )
>>

> People wanted security and now it is implemented properly the same way
> as Linux.
>
>
> --
> Conor
> Grumpy Old Man
> Same ****, Different Day.
>
>



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Old 06-18-2006   #9 (permalink)
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

"Jim Fraas" <tman61@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:%23i5L5QukGHA.4444@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> but my documents folder becomes read only!
> Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard
> they become read only again



All folders are Read Only. Ignore it. Windows does.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM
Please reply in newsgroup.

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Old 06-18-2006   #10 (permalink)
Steve Williamson
Guest


 
 

Re: Bypass boot screen?

You can log on automatically, same as XP. Goto a run prompt and type
"control userpasswords2" without the quotes. Uncheck "users must enter a
username and password..." (Apologies if it's worded differently, I'm doing
it from memory as my install is fecked!)

If you're talking about User Account Control, I managed to turn it off by
going into the Security Center and disabling "User Account Control". It was
useful at first, then it started to really annoy me by dimming everything
until I clicked OK to allow something I had myself initiated.

Hope that helps.
Steve

"Bill" <smile@here.com> wrote in message
news9FEADEB-5E71-40E4-9319-C1668C4514FF@microsoft.com...
> When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little
> orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually
> a
> picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
>
> Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended?
> Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN
> privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do
> something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the
> privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch
> over
> me )
>
>
> Happy Fathers Day
>
>
> Bill
>
>



My System SpecsSystem Spec
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