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wierd sharing
  1. #1


    James Guest

    wierd sharing

    This problem is strange!

    i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup =
    workgroup (this is identical on all pcs)

    1 vista ultimate (clean install) Desktop which we will call 'A'
    1 vista ultimate (clean install) Laptop which we will call 'B'
    1 xp pro desktop which we will call 'C'

    i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the xp
    machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,

    right onto the problem, even the microsoft tech guys couldnt fix this via
    remote access but assure me that they are researching the problem further.



    A can see and access B & C
    B can see A & C but can only access C
    C can see A & B but can only access B

    (A is in-accessable to others on the network)

    the network map is fine and i can ping all pcs from all pcs

    when i try to access A it displays a message saying

    'windows cannot access \\james'
    please check the spelling, otherwise you may have a problem with your
    network, click diagnose to try to resolve this

    it gives an error code of '0x80070035'

    i click diagnose and no problems are found

    internet is absolutley fine on all pcs

    i am stumped, so was mr. microsoft, all the right options seem to be enabled,

    there is no 3rd party firewall and i have tried turning both windows
    firewall and windows deffender off

    i use nod32 on all pcs and have tried uninstalling it

    it has nothing to do with my router im sure (as its only A thats is
    in-accessable and i've changed which port i am using and tried it with only A
    & B, i have also used different ethernet cables, plus it worked flawlessly
    prior to installing vista)

    i would be very grateful to anyone who has any ideas...what-so-ever...

    thankyou

    James


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  2. #2


    Len Mattix Guest

    Re: wierd sharing

    See if anything here helps.

    http://search.microsoft.com/results....indows%20Vista

    Good Luck,

    Len

    "James" <James@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4E24CA19-CFD0-4E74-934C-FD3395D5B5AD@microsoft.com...
    > This problem is strange!
    >
    > i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup =
    > workgroup (this is identical on all pcs)
    >
    > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Desktop which we will call 'A'
    > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Laptop which we will call 'B'
    > 1 xp pro desktop which we will call 'C'
    >
    > i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the xp
    > machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,
    >
    > right onto the problem, even the microsoft tech guys couldnt fix this via
    > remote access but assure me that they are researching the problem further.
    >
    > A can see and access B & C
    > B can see A & C but can only access C
    > C can see A & B but can only access B
    >
    > (A is in-accessable to others on the network)
    >
    > the network map is fine and i can ping all pcs from all pcs
    >
    > when i try to access A it displays a message saying
    >
    > 'windows cannot access \\james'
    > please check the spelling, otherwise you may have a problem with your
    > network, click diagnose to try to resolve this
    >
    > it gives an error code of '0x80070035'
    >
    > i click diagnose and no problems are found
    >
    > internet is absolutley fine on all pcs
    >
    > i am stumped, so was mr. microsoft, all the right options seem to be
    > enabled,
    >
    > there is no 3rd party firewall and i have tried turning both windows
    > firewall and windows deffender off
    >
    > i use nod32 on all pcs and have tried uninstalling it
    >
    > it has nothing to do with my router im sure (as its only A thats is
    > in-accessable and i've changed which port i am using and tried it with
    > only A
    > & B, i have also used different ethernet cables, plus it worked flawlessly
    > prior to installing vista)
    >
    > i would be very grateful to anyone who has any ideas...what-so-ever...
    >
    > thankyou
    >
    > James
    >



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  3. #3


    DanS Guest

    Re: wierd sharing

    =?Utf-8?B?SmFtZXM=?= <James@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    news:4E24CA19-CFD0-4E74-934C-FD3395D5B5AD@microsoft.com:

    > This problem is strange!


    Sorry I can't help ou with this one.
    >
    > i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup


    <SNIP>

    >
    > i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the
    > xp machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,


    But I'd like more info on the above 'driver' for XP.

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  4. #4


    James Guest

    Re: wierd sharing


    it was the LLTD Responder component
    "DanS" wrote:

    > =?Utf-8?B?SmFtZXM=?= <James@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    > news:4E24CA19-CFD0-4E74-934C-FD3395D5B5AD@microsoft.com:
    >
    > > This problem is strange!

    >
    > Sorry I can't help ou with this one.
    > >
    > > i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup

    >
    > <SNIP>
    >
    > >
    > > i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the
    > > xp machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,

    >
    > But I'd like more info on the above 'driver' for XP.
    >


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  5. #5


    James Guest

    Re: wierd sharing

    LLTD Responder component

    "DanS" wrote:

    > =?Utf-8?B?SmFtZXM=?= <James@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    > news:4E24CA19-CFD0-4E74-934C-FD3395D5B5AD@microsoft.com:
    >
    > > This problem is strange!

    >
    > Sorry I can't help ou with this one.
    > >
    > > i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup

    >
    > <SNIP>
    >
    > >
    > > i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the
    > > xp machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,

    >
    > But I'd like more info on the above 'driver' for XP.
    >


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  6. #6


    Mick Guest

    RE: wierd sharing

    I never had to install any driver to network XP and Vista

    "James" wrote:

    > This problem is strange!
    >
    > i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup =
    > workgroup (this is identical on all pcs)
    >
    > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Desktop which we will call 'A'
    > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Laptop which we will call 'B'
    > 1 xp pro desktop which we will call 'C'
    >
    > i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the xp
    > machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,
    >
    > right onto the problem, even the microsoft tech guys couldnt fix this via
    > remote access but assure me that they are researching the problem further.
    >
    > A can see and access B & C
    > B can see A & C but can only access C
    > C can see A & B but can only access B
    >
    > (A is in-accessable to others on the network)
    >
    > the network map is fine and i can ping all pcs from all pcs
    >
    > when i try to access A it displays a message saying
    >
    > 'windows cannot access \\james'
    > please check the spelling, otherwise you may have a problem with your
    > network, click diagnose to try to resolve this
    >
    > it gives an error code of '0x80070035'
    >
    > i click diagnose and no problems are found
    >
    > internet is absolutley fine on all pcs
    >
    > i am stumped, so was mr. microsoft, all the right options seem to be enabled,
    >
    > there is no 3rd party firewall and i have tried turning both windows
    > firewall and windows deffender off
    >
    > i use nod32 on all pcs and have tried uninstalling it
    >
    > it has nothing to do with my router im sure (as its only A thats is
    > in-accessable and i've changed which port i am using and tried it with only A
    > & B, i have also used different ethernet cables, plus it worked flawlessly
    > prior to installing vista)
    >
    > i would be very grateful to anyone who has any ideas...what-so-ever...
    >
    > thankyou
    >
    > James
    >


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  7. #7


    Mick Guest

    RE: wierd sharing

    did you turn on
    Network discovery on the 2 vista comps
    file sharing on the 2 vista
    and turn off password protection on the 2 vista
    "James" wrote:

    > This problem is strange!
    >
    > i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup =
    > workgroup (this is identical on all pcs)
    >
    > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Desktop which we will call 'A'
    > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Laptop which we will call 'B'
    > 1 xp pro desktop which we will call 'C'
    >
    > i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the xp
    > machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,
    >
    > right onto the problem, even the microsoft tech guys couldnt fix this via
    > remote access but assure me that they are researching the problem further.
    >
    > A can see and access B & C
    > B can see A & C but can only access C
    > C can see A & B but can only access B
    >
    > (A is in-accessable to others on the network)
    >
    > the network map is fine and i can ping all pcs from all pcs
    >
    > when i try to access A it displays a message saying
    >
    > 'windows cannot access \\james'
    > please check the spelling, otherwise you may have a problem with your
    > network, click diagnose to try to resolve this
    >
    > it gives an error code of '0x80070035'
    >
    > i click diagnose and no problems are found
    >
    > internet is absolutley fine on all pcs
    >
    > i am stumped, so was mr. microsoft, all the right options seem to be enabled,
    >
    > there is no 3rd party firewall and i have tried turning both windows
    > firewall and windows deffender off
    >
    > i use nod32 on all pcs and have tried uninstalling it
    >
    > it has nothing to do with my router im sure (as its only A thats is
    > in-accessable and i've changed which port i am using and tried it with only A
    > & B, i have also used different ethernet cables, plus it worked flawlessly
    > prior to installing vista)
    >
    > i would be very grateful to anyone who has any ideas...what-so-ever...
    >
    > thankyou
    >
    > James
    >


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  8. #8


    Mick Guest

    RE: wierd sharing

    You get into that by "Network", then "Network and sharing"

    "Mick" wrote:

    > did you turn on
    > Network discovery on the 2 vista comps
    > file sharing on the 2 vista
    > and turn off password protection on the 2 vista
    > "James" wrote:
    >
    > > This problem is strange!
    > >
    > > i have 3 pcs on a home network, network location = network, workgroup =
    > > workgroup (this is identical on all pcs)
    > >
    > > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Desktop which we will call 'A'
    > > 1 vista ultimate (clean install) Laptop which we will call 'B'
    > > 1 xp pro desktop which we will call 'C'
    > >
    > > i have installed the driver from microsoft (onto C) in order for the xp
    > > machine to communicate properly with the vista machines,
    > >
    > > right onto the problem, even the microsoft tech guys couldnt fix this via
    > > remote access but assure me that they are researching the problem further.
    > >
    > > A can see and access B & C
    > > B can see A & C but can only access C
    > > C can see A & B but can only access B
    > >
    > > (A is in-accessable to others on the network)
    > >
    > > the network map is fine and i can ping all pcs from all pcs
    > >
    > > when i try to access A it displays a message saying
    > >
    > > 'windows cannot access \\james'
    > > please check the spelling, otherwise you may have a problem with your
    > > network, click diagnose to try to resolve this
    > >
    > > it gives an error code of '0x80070035'
    > >
    > > i click diagnose and no problems are found
    > >
    > > internet is absolutley fine on all pcs
    > >
    > > i am stumped, so was mr. microsoft, all the right options seem to be enabled,
    > >
    > > there is no 3rd party firewall and i have tried turning both windows
    > > firewall and windows deffender off
    > >
    > > i use nod32 on all pcs and have tried uninstalling it
    > >
    > > it has nothing to do with my router im sure (as its only A thats is
    > > in-accessable and i've changed which port i am using and tried it with only A
    > > & B, i have also used different ethernet cables, plus it worked flawlessly
    > > prior to installing vista)
    > >
    > > i would be very grateful to anyone who has any ideas...what-so-ever...
    > >
    > > thankyou
    > >
    > > James
    > >


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  9. #9


    sean sullivan Guest

    File Sharing Blank Passwords

    This helped me when I couldn't access any of my Vista (ultimate) machines from any other machine (Vista as well as XP)

    In the Security Policies console lies the answer

    1) Open 'Run' from the start menu and type "MMC.exe secpol.msc" (without quotes) and hit enter.

    2) MMC will open with the Security Policies console.

    3) Click the arrow (expand) 'Local Policies' and click on 'Security Options'

    4) Look to the right pane and look at the 3rd entry: "Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only" and set tat to diabled.

    5) that should allow anonymous File Sharing Access from other locally networked computers.

    I couldn't access any of my folder shares even though they were staring me in the face. Everytime I accessed one I got the same error you received. Basicly, when you share a folder using File Sharing, it opens the folder to 'Guest' access. by default Guests need no password. So when you use on PC to access another PC's shared folders/files it uses blank passwords for simplicity, but Vista (at least in Ultimate) enabled a blank password policy that limits their use to the locally administered console only.

    EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
    http://www.eggheadcafe.com

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  10. #10


    Larry Maturo Guest

    Re: File Sharing Blank Passwords

    You can also create a password protected account on each computer (an
    account you don't normally use) and use that for sharing. Your way is
    easier, but if your network involves wireless access, it opens you up to
    problems.

    -- Larry Maturo

    <sean sullivan> wrote in message news:200765154455seanryan52@hotmail.com...
    > This helped me when I couldn't access any of my Vista (ultimate) machines
    > from any other machine (Vista as well as XP)
    >
    > In the Security Policies console lies the answer
    >
    > 1) Open 'Run' from the start menu and type "MMC.exe secpol.msc" (without
    > quotes) and hit enter.
    >
    > 2) MMC will open with the Security Policies console.
    >
    > 3) Click the arrow (expand) 'Local Policies' and click on 'Security
    > Options'
    >
    > 4) Look to the right pane and look at the 3rd entry: "Accounts: Limit
    > local account use of blank passwords to console logon only" and set tat to
    > diabled.
    >
    > 5) that should allow anonymous File Sharing Access from other locally
    > networked computers.
    >
    > I couldn't access any of my folder shares even though they were staring me
    > in the face. Everytime I accessed one I got the same error you received.
    > Basicly, when you share a folder using File Sharing, it opens the folder
    > to 'Guest' access. by default Guests need no password. So when you use on
    > PC to access another PC's shared folders/files it uses blank passwords for
    > simplicity, but Vista (at least in Ultimate) enabled a blank password
    > policy that limits their use to the locally administered console only.
    >
    > EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
    > http://www.eggheadcafe.com




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