Vista Tutorial - Vista User Account Control

Hi all
When I start most of my usual, mostly Microsoft, software I have no
messages. When I start some of my hobby software, e.g. my bridge scoring
software, the system reports that this is an unknown publisher and I have
to authorize it to run.

I use MS OneCare security and the current release is allowed in the
Firewall. Is there anything I can do to assure user account control
permanently that the software's publisher is known to me and is kosher
Roger Stenson

"Roger Stenson" wrote
> Hi all
> When I start most of my usual, mostly Microsoft, software I have no
> messages. When I start some of my hobby software, e.g. my bridge scoring
> software, the system reports that this is an unknown publisher and I have
> to authorize it to run.
>
> I use MS OneCare security and the current release is allowed in the
> Firewall. Is there anything I can do to assure user account control
> permanently that the software's publisher is known to me and is kosher
> Roger Stenson

No. That software must be asking to run with Admin privileges. When that
happens it gives the prompt to authorize it. You can't authorize it for all
future runnings of the app.

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Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Roger Stenson" wrote
>> Hi all
>> When I start most of my usual, mostly Microsoft, software I have no
>> messages. When I start some of my hobby software, e.g. my bridge scoring
>> software, the system reports that this is an unknown publisher and I
>> have to authorize it to run.
>>
>> I use MS OneCare security and the current release is allowed in the
>> Firewall. Is there anything I can do to assure user account control
>> permanently that the software's publisher is known to me and is kosher
>> Roger Stenson
>
> No. That software must be asking to run with Admin privileges. When that
> happens it gives the prompt to authorize it. You can't authorize it for
> all future runnings of the app.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

You can't set the exe to run as admin?

Lang

This is happening because poorly written programs from Windows XP usually
want to run as an administrator. This is against the new security standards
of Vista. When you start the program you will get a popup asking if you want
the program to run.

When/if the programs developer updates the program to be Vista compatible,
this will no longer occur,

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Roger Stenson" <roger@stensons.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi all
> When I start most of my usual, mostly Microsoft, software I have no
> messages. When I start some of my hobby software, e.g. my bridge scoring
> software, the system reports that this is an unknown publisher and I have
> to authorize it to run.
>
> I use MS OneCare security and the current release is allowed in the
> Firewall. Is there anything I can do to assure user account control
> permanently that the software's publisher is known to me and is kosher
> Roger Stenson

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This is happening because poorly written programs from Windows XP usually
> want to run as an administrator.

Crazy. Why would a piece of software want/need to run as admin?
Some sort of catch all situation to ensure no problems at run time?

Jay

> This is happening because poorly written programs from Windows XP usually
> want to run as an administrator. This is against the new security
> standards of Vista.

you are one mixed up puppy

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This is happening because poorly written programs from Windows XP usually
> want to run as an administrator. This is against the new security
> standards of Vista. When you start the program you will get a popup asking
> if you want the program to run.
>
> When/if the programs developer updates the program to be Vista compatible,
> this will no longer occur,
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "Roger Stenson" <roger@stensons.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:MYoci.4460$aF6.459@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>> Hi all
>> When I start most of my usual, mostly Microsoft, software I have no
>> messages. When I start some of my hobby software, e.g. my bridge scoring
>> software, the system reports that this is an unknown publisher and I
>> have to authorize it to run.
>>
>> I use MS OneCare security and the current release is allowed in the
>> Firewall. Is there anything I can do to assure user account control
>> permanently that the software's publisher is known to me and is kosher
>> Roger Stenson
>

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This is happening because poorly written programs from Windows XP usually want to run as
> an administrator.

Not necessarily true.
The program only needs to contain a function that requires administrator privileges to
complete the function.

You can however "force" the program to request admin privileges with the use of a manifest
file.

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Steve Easton

Is your administrator service ( account ) set to automatic, and does it have a password?
It actually runs as a service in Vista.
If set to run automatically you will have the option of either logging in to the admin
account or the user account at boot.
If you select the admin account and the machine continues and loads with out asking for a
password, then give the admin account a password.

Then reboot, and select the user account.
Launch the program and let it ask for admin privileges, you will be prompted for the admin
password.
Give it the password and then continue.
From then on the program will "supposedly" run with out prompting for admin privileges.


--

Steve Easton





"Roger Stenson" <roger@stensons.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi all
> When I start most of my usual, mostly Microsoft, software I have no messages. When I
> start some of my hobby software, e.g. my bridge scoring software, the system reports
> that this is an unknown publisher and I have to authorize it to run.
>
> I use MS OneCare security and the current release is allowed in the Firewall. Is there
> anything I can do to assure user account control permanently that the software's
> publisher is known to me and is kosher
> Roger Stenson

Roger Stenson wrote:
> Hi all
> When I start most of my usual, mostly Microsoft, software I have no
> messages. When I start some of my hobby software, e.g. my bridge scoring
> software, the system reports that this is an unknown publisher and I
> have to authorize it to run.
>
> I use MS OneCare security and the current release is allowed in the
> Firewall. Is there anything I can do to assure user account control
> permanently that the software's publisher is known to me and is kosher
> Roger Stenson

Hello,

There are a few different screens you may be seeing.

Can you type out some of the message that it displays when you start it?

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-JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

"Jay" <nospam@**here.com> wrote in message
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>
> Crazy. Why would a piece of software want/need to run as admin?
> Some sort of catch all situation to ensure no problems at run time?
>
> Jay

Jay

If a program is Vista compatible, you should never see an administrator
prompt, except when the program is first installed. From then on, running
the program should be seamless with no prompts for privilege elevation.

As others have said, programs that ask for admin privileges, each time they
run, were written for earlier versions of Windows, such as XP. With XP,
despite recommendations to the contrary, nearly everyone used a full
administrator account. This enabled the software developers to get lazy and
simply code their programs to run with full, system wide access. This led to
the overwhelming security problems in these earlier versions of Windows. The
bad people could easily write malicious programs and simply run them with
the within the users admin account, completely in the background and
invisible to the user.

Vista enforces a new security model, which should have been done a long time
ago. Developers have had over 5 years to get ready for Vista, but despite
this, many have still not updated their programs. I do a lot of beta testing
for many different developers and once they understand what has to be done
to get their programs Vista compatible, I have seen them make the necessary
changes in less than one day.

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Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User